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Post by
taurenmoo812
sorry for double posting just finsihed seeing the videos they were indeed epic.
I now have an urge to kill Thrall and to camp undercity very nice voiceover and overall well doneAn urge to kill Thrall? Why? Thrall is one of the greatest orcs, or even people, that ever lived. Killing Sylvanas is one thing, but Thrall has only ever had good intentions.
And yes, it's pretty much a fact that the Horde version is more epic. Horde has you fight in the courtyard fight a boss, descend the elevators, go through the heart of the city, fight to the canals, fight a boss, fight to the throneroom, fight the guy who orchestrated the whole Wrathgate, hear Sargeras, and all to the tune of the Lament of the Sin'dorei.
Alliance has you fight in the sewers, fight a boss, run 5 feet to the Apothecarium, fight a pawn of Varimathras and then go yell at Thrall... I've done both, and I was very disappointed in the Alliance version.
Faction bias has very little to do with it.
Let me guess, he saw the alliance version only and thought because Varian did his emo rage and accused Thrall of all his woes, he ended up thinking only captain chin is right.
This was a moment that made Thrall stand out, because as he said, he wishes he could live a life without regret, admitting the mistake he made in not watching the forsaken closely enough, of which he goes to resolve it himself. That is a mark of a true leader.
Now I have seen both horde and alliance version, because I did have my single alliance warlock who I got to lv80 and I did this quest chain with him. In both horde and alliance version I just could only think of one thing, and that was wanting to down Varian in a raid, with his rage and actions of ignoring Jaina, his racist bullcrap towards the horde, and him accusing my hero and hordes leader of being some twisted abomination,
despite the horde has helped saved azeroth from peril countless times after the new horde was formed.
If anyone deserves to be camped its him. Reformed opinion in icc my big green behind.
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451455
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Post by
Adamsm
The New Horde has never threatened Azeroth; that was the Dark Horde and the RAS/Dreadlord group, get your lore right please before you post things.
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Post by
taurenmoo812
Its not reformed ffs. He has tried peace with the Horde, and was pushed to the limit and had no choice but to go on the defence.
If you guys are suprised with ICC, then I sure am not. He has tried peace, and its gotten no where. Just costed more lives. I am getting sick of everyone calling him racist for getting mad that a race is killing his people, its all a load of crap.
despite the horde has helped saved azeroth from peril countless times after the new horde was formed.
You mean like how they almost destroyed it two or three times?
Although I've just taken to reporting you for spam now as Adam and Patty suggested, I'll go with this.
Darkton. you quite simple are someone who goes into denial about your fav characters faults, and then flames other peoples fav characters without proof to back it.
Varian has proven his racist ideology time and again, even other alliance fans have admitted to seeing it. The ICC change of heart was a retconn, in a failed attempted to do something for the alliance fans in that moment where Saurfang has lost his only son.
And now your screaming blue murder saying you think the horde hasn't reformed from its dark past? why is it every other post is able to see this and you can't? Even those that wanted to attack the horde is able to see this.
Anyway, I think I, like everyone else on these threads, just gets tired of arguing with you.
Post by
Skreeran
Varian is not going on the defensive. He's going on an offensive.
All faction bias and personal feeling aside, this is fact. What the Alliance was doing before was defense. Fighting the Horde only when the Horde attacked. Now Varian believed the Horde has attacked too many times, and has decided that it has to be dealt with. This is an offensive.
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451455
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Post by
Adamsm
Varian is not going on the defensive. He's going on an offensive.
All faction bias and personal feeling aside, this is fact. What the Alliance was doing before was defense. Fighting the Horde only when the Horde attacked. Now Varian believed the Horde has attacked too many times, and has decided that it has to be dealt with. This is an offensive.
Aye. I am looking forward to hopefully some type of cut scene between Varian and Graymane, to find out what their feelings are for each other now.
But, at the Battle, he did declare War on the Horde.. for the Humans of Stormwind at least, as opposed to the entire Alliance as a whole.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Its not reformed ffs. He has tried peace with the Horde, and was pushed to the limit and had no choice but to go on the defence.
If you guys are suprised with ICC, then I sure am not. He has tried peace, and its gotten no where. Just costed more lives. I am getting sick of everyone calling him racist for getting mad that a race is killing his people, its all a load of crap.
despite the horde has helped saved azeroth from peril countless times after the new horde was formed.
You mean like how they almost destroyed it two or three times?
Although I've just taken to reporting you for spam now as Adam and Patty suggested, I'll go with this.
Darkton. you quite simple are someone who goes into denial about your fav characters faults, and then flames other peoples fav characters without proof to back it.
Varian has proven his racist ideology time and again, even other alliance fans have admitted to seeing it. The ICC change of heart was a retconn, in a failed attempted to do something for the alliance fans in that moment where Saurfang has lost his only son.
And now your screaming blue murder saying you think the horde hasn't reformed from its dark past? why is it every other post is able to see this and you can't? Even those that wanted to attack the horde is able to see this.
Anyway, I think I, like everyone else on these threads, just gets tired of arguing with you.
Eh, 'spam' means random gubrish, Not "OMGZ OSOMONE ELS DONT THNK LIEK MEH CALL TEH ARMYEZ"
As for your other stuff - I am just going with what Blizzard shows. It funny how I am the one going into denial when you are the one who is so bugged about being wrong about everything, you are pretending like everything is going your way, such as living in a world where Varian thinks the only good orc is a dead one, or where you imagine that this war was pointless when Blizzard said the Horde poses a huge threat to the Alliance (Which anyone with eyes can see)
Btw, I am not flaming your favorite characters, you are simply experiencing a high amount of nerdrage to the point where your own eyes a deciving you.
The term 'racism' falls under thinking your race is superior, which Varian doesnt think, or perjudice, which Varian also does not do.
There is no retcon, Varian has tried peace, and this could be the side we always see if the Forsaken didnt want to destroy humanity.
And I can see that the Horde has other goals then the past, I only go agains ttwo things: One, the Forsaken. Two: Several orcs, such as Doomhammer, are revered heros, so while we hear they change thier ways, they slaute the same people who they blame responsible.
Btw, if you don't want an argument, then quit making retarded threads.
So now your using the retarded angle.
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451455
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Post by
Skreeran
It's a discussion. We wouldn't be debating if this wasn't made.
And that would be boring.
Post by
Adamsm
It's a discussion. We wouldn't be debating if this wasn't made.
And that would be boring.
QFT.
Post by
Rankkor
You haven't seen my previous posts I assume my heart is with the alliance, not the horde
well bro' without any sort of disrespect for you, that's a very sad mentality to take for a GAME.
my heart is horde, for ever and ever, and yet I don't frown on playing some alliance quests on my alt.
why? because of 2 reasons.
A: knoledge is power, you can't hope to win a war if u don't understand your enemy, after exensive quests for the draenei, dwarves, gnomes, humans and night-elves, I feel like I understand each of these factions, and this gives me a more broad scope of the lore of the game, and allows me to enjoy more the story.
B: I am PAYING to play this game, and wow is composed of: 60% neutral quests, 20% alliance quests, and 20% horde quests.
by refusing to play the alliance quests, out of faction pride, stubborness or any other reason, I am pretty much wasting 20% of the money I'm paying to play this game. after all I pay 100% of the fee, I should be playing 100% of the game, don't cha think?
u really should watch the horde version, is not like u're gonna get infected with an uncurable diseace or something.
and taurenmoo, just ignore darkton, he's blind as a bat, let him rant on with the horde killing children, and the new horde threatening the alliance and all his mumble-jumbo, as you can see, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY here actually buys his crap, or takes him seriously at all, in this thread alone well over 9 diferent users have refused to take his ridiculus asumptions for real and even ARGENT SUN said to his face that nothing in-game or out of the game proves that the horde kills or experiments on children, he still goes on and on and on like the annoying energizer rabbit, so just let him rant on.
after all, no civilization is complete without the nutty rambling joker.
Post by
taurenmoo812
and taurenmoo, just ignore darkton, he's blind as a bat, let him rant on with the horde killing children, and the new horde threatening the alliance and all his mumble-jumbo, as you can see, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY here actually buys his crap, or takes him seriously at all, in this thread alone well over 9 diferent users have refused to take his ridiculus asumptions for real, so let him rant on.
after all, no civilization is complete without the nutty rambling joker.
Hehe, yeah I guess thats true, it does kind of balance things out for the rational and irrational.
And what your saying is right, I believe I might try to level up a worgen just to see how quests and lore develop from both points of view, despite the fact I am horde to the core, it would let me see the lore from a wider angle. My warlock is horde now, but it would be something.
Post by
Rankkor
and taurenmoo, just ignore darkton, he's blind as a bat, let him rant on with the horde killing children, and the new horde threatening the alliance and all his mumble-jumbo, as you can see, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY here actually buys his crap, or takes him seriously at all, in this thread alone well over 9 diferent users have refused to take his ridiculus asumptions for real, so let him rant on.
after all, no civilization is complete without the nutty rambling joker.
Hehe, yeah I guess thats true, it does kind of balance things out for the rational and irrational.
And what your saying is right, I believe I might try to level up a worgen just to see how quests and lore develop from both points of view, despite the fact I am horde to the core, it would let me see the lore from a wider angle. My warlock is horde now, but it would be something.
indeed my fellow horde brother.
I do know u're one of the most proud members of the horde I've ever met, but I strongly advice you to (at least in cataclysm) level an alliance toon from 1 to 85, to experience the other side of the coin, is not like we're gonna catch an uncurable diseace or something like that.
I plan to level a worgen just to lvl 20 though, the moment I finish their starting zone he's deleted, but I do plan to level a Gnome Priest (I happen to be a HUUUUGE FAN of Chromie) from 1 to 85, to see how much has the world changed for the alliance
(I plan to level a goblin rogue from 1 to 20, and delete, while also play a tauren paladin from 1 to 85 to see how much the world has changed for the horde)
is basic number crunching , we all pay 100% of the monthly fee to play, yet if we stick to this "faction pride" stuff, we're essentially missing 20% of the game, and I don't pay 250.000 bolivares per month to trow away 20% of that ammount to the trash-can
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Monday
and taurenmoo, just ignore darkton, he's blind as a bat, let him rant on with the horde killing children, and the new horde threatening the alliance and all his mumble-jumbo, as you can see, NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY here actually buys his crap, or takes him seriously at all, in this thread alone well over 9 diferent users have refused to take his ridiculus asumptions for real, so let him rant on.
after all, no civilization is complete without the nutty rambling joker.
Hehe, yeah I guess thats true, it does kind of balance things out for the rational and irrational.
And what your saying is right, I believe I might try to level up a worgen just to see how quests and lore develop from both points of view, despite the fact I am horde to the core, it would let me see the lore from a wider angle. My warlock is horde now, but it would be something.
indeed my fellow horde brother.
I do know u're one of the most proud members of the horde I've ever met, but I strongly advice you to (at least in cataclysm) level an alliance toon from 1 to 85, to experience the other side of the coin, is not like we're gonna catch an uncurable diseace or something like that.
I plan to level a worgen just to lvl 20 though, the moment I finish their starting zone he's deleted, but I do plan to level a Gnome Priest (I happen to be a HUUUUGE FAN of Chromie) from 1 to 85, to see how much has the world changed for the alliance
(I plan to level a goblin rogue from 1 to 20, and delete, while also play a tauren paladin from 1 to 85 to see how much the world has changed for the horde)
is basic number crunching , we all pay 100% of the monthly fee to play, yet if we stick to this "faction pride" stuff, we're essentially missing 20% of the game, and I don't pay 250.000 bolivares per month to trow away 20% of that ammount to the trash-can
I have to agree with this, even if its the other way around. I leveled my dwarf paladin from 1-80, and now I'm leveling a death knight on the horde side (I can't get past the starting zones for any of the horde races). But still, the death knight gives me the view from 58-80, although right now I'm only 63 I can already see how different the Horde is from the Alliance.
Although I am debating on whether to level a tauren/orc/troll warrior. (Any race suggestions, I'm stuck?)
Post by
Adamsm
I have to agree with this, even if its the other way around. I leveled my dwarf paladin from 1-80, and now I'm leveling a death knight on the horde side (I can't get past the starting zones for any of the horde races). But still, the death knight gives me the view from 58-80, although right now I'm only 63 I can already see how different the Horde is from the Alliance.
Although I am debating on whether to level a tauren/orc/troll warrior. (Any race suggestions, I'm stuck?)
Heh, I'm doing the opposite lol, my DK Blood Elf is going back and doing all the starting zone quests... but that's just part of my mount hunting need heh. Still, I'm enjoying it.
Post by
taurenmoo812
I have to agree with this, even if its the other way around. I leveled my dwarf paladin from 1-80, and now I'm leveling a death knight on the horde side (I can't get past the starting zones for any of the horde races). But still, the death knight gives me the view from 58-80, although right now I'm only 63 I can already see how different the Horde is from the Alliance.
Although I am debating on whether to level a tauren/orc/troll warrior. (Any race suggestions, I'm stuck?)
Hmm. I think whatever you find appeals to you the most over the long time your be playing him or her. I for one have a tauren warrior, lv75, and its great fun playing a race with such huge weapons, lol.
Though there is part of me that wishes I made an orc warrior too, since they just look awesome at lv80.. plus the sounds they make when fighting is awesome
Post by
Rankkor
Although I am debating on whether to level a tauren/orc/troll warrior. (Any race suggestions, I'm stuck?)
well....... it really depends on what do you want.
if u want to doit purely out of lore reasons, orc is the way to go.
orc warriors represent the warrior spirit of the horde, nothing says more badass than an orc wielding or dualwielding 2 arcanite reapers (if u got the heirlooms that is) as u level up, plus their battle-cry when they atack is pretty epic :P, besides, don't u wanna be counted among the ranks of broxigar the red? or Varok Saurfang? or Gromash Hellscream?
if u intend to develop this toon, however, and wish to make him a tank, tauren is a better choise, their racials are almost like 100% intended for tanking, from the 5% extra HP to the AOE stun.
trolls......... I dunno what to say, :P lorewise trolls make better rogues, hunters, and priests than they do warriors or mages......
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