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Why is lying immoral?
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Hyperspacerebel
Meaning morality is either objective or subjective depending on which of the two possible objective truths about God you choose to accept.
Uh...no. Whether morality is subjective or objective has absolutely no bearing on whether God exists or not. That you choose to defend a subjective system that does not include a God and that I choose to defend an objective system that does include a God is irrelevant.
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Hyperspacerebel
The same way anything is objective? By being based off something outside human judgment. Anything from ethical pragmatism to utilitarianism fits the bill.
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Hyperspacerebel
Watch the Simpsons epidsode, where Bart lies about being kidnapped, so he doesn't get caught going to a rap concert (Pranksta Rap), nothing but good comes of it (Wiggum gets a better job, and respect, Milhouse's dad gets more respect and women for being in jail, and even Carl and the other policeman gets new jobs.), if you say that lying is always wrong after watching that, then I pity you.
So, you think that morality is only applied after the action in question and all its consequences resolve?
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Hyperspacerebel
No, I simply believe lying is fine aslong its for good intent, or for personal gain
with little to no "damage" done to others
. For example if I get a detention, I usaully say I walked home on that day, just so I don't get into trouble with my mum. (Takes 30mins+ when walking home with my friends since, we go way off from my area just to get to theirs >.>)
How is resulting damage determined prior to or during the act?
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Orranis
No, I simply believe lying is fine aslong its for good intent, or for personal gain
with little to no "damage" done to others
. For example if I get a detention, I usaully say I walked home on that day, just so I don't get into trouble with my mum. (Takes 30mins+ when walking home with my friends since, we go way off from my area just to get to theirs >.>)
How is resulting damage determined prior to or during the act?
SPACE-MAGIC!
Known to some as Logic.
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xaratherus
No, I simply believe lying is fine aslong its for good intent, or for personal gain
with little to no "damage" done to others
. For example if I get a detention, I usaully say I walked home on that day, just so I don't get into trouble with my mum. (Takes 30mins+ when walking home with my friends since, we go way off from my area just to get to theirs >.>)
How is resulting damage determined prior to or during the act?
SPACE-MAGIC!
Known to some as Logic.
Actually, it's more 'educated inference' than logic, heh.
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Hyperspacerebel
No, I simply believe lying is fine aslong its for good intent, or for personal gain
with little to no "damage" done to others
. For example if I get a detention, I usaully say I walked home on that day, just so I don't get into trouble with my mum. (Takes 30mins+ when walking home with my friends since, we go way off from my area just to get to theirs >.>)
How is resulting damage determined prior to or during the act?
SPACE-MAGIC!
Known to some as Logic.
Actually, it's more 'educated inference' than logic, heh.
In other words, we can't determine it. And thus, any claims of an action being good or bad under this system are nothing more than guesses.
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