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Post by
blademeld
YDI pezz
GJ Quest.
holorob, there are several discussion threads on resilience versus defense, all of them pointing resilience is far too suboptimal.
And I can't believe no one nitpicked on the use of the term "defense cap"
Post by
Squishalot
Because there is a defense cap, and it's over...
Post by
blademeld
If we're talking about the defense cap resilience doesn't do anything.
Post by
260814
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Post by
Quest
lol.......
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108118
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Post by
Quest
Also, I don't watch TV on a TV any more. My 18.4" 1080p HD laptop w/ 7.1 headphones is far superior imo.
IM SORRY BUT YOU DONT NEED MORE THAN
5.1
OK BRO?
PS> Im sure the ladies like squinting at the laptop rather than on a comfy couch and a big screen =/
Defence cap is the amount of defence needed in order to not be critted by bosses. Have I missed something about that?
Thats a def
minimum
.
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260814
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Post by
pezz
Cap = useless after that point.
If defense only gave you a reduced chance of being crit, the PVE cap would indeed be 540. I'll assume from your previous post, holorob, you realize that this isn't the case.
Post by
Squishalot
Agree on both of Quest's points.
1) I use a 40" 1080p LCD hooked up to one of my spare computers. My only criticism of using it for day-to-day stuff is that it's hard to read the chat box. And a 18" laptop isn't a laptop, it's a portable computer, unless you don't want your DNA to be passed onto the next generation. (I won't make any comment about whether it's necessarily a good thing or not.)
2) See above on the def
minimum
, or def
floor
perhaps. Otherwise, you might as well go out into Trade and yell "LFM 10 ToC MUST HAVE 4kDPS CAP!"
Post by
108118
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Post by
pezz
Yeah it's basically a soft cap at that point. It has less uses after 540, but it still definitely has uses.
Post by
TheJohan
Hahaha... I'm bookmarking this thread.
Its almost like the Marxx brothers, only with Quest, Pezz and Holorob.
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108118
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
I also resent holorob being compared to an American. Especially 5 of the greatest Americans to ever live.
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108118
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Post by
slasher0161
I also resent holorob being compared to an American. Especially 5 of the greatest Americans to ever live.
Which says a lot about America.
I think the only good thing I can say about America is that you had the balls to elect a decent president.
And to bring the thread back on topic, I'm fairly sure Obama would tank with SoComm.
So he can hit Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan at once? (sorry couldn't help myself, he is a good man i guess).
I've become pretty lost what the actual topic was now (soc is good for tanking?) but i do believe that soc only shines in tanking heroics where you only need 2.5 - 3k threat on most non 20feet tall targets to hold threat (because trash dies so quick there). Otherwise stick with vengeance and you really can't go wrong. my 2c
Post by
Xhaosrenac
*Raises hand*
QUESTION: Why would you spec something only for trash?
I honestly don't get that. Maybe it's because I only use my paladin for raids. I prefer to optimize myself toward boss fights, granted I have too much expertise and not enough hit atm, but aren't the bosses all that really count? Maybe not in heroics or Naxx10. But still, the trash doesn't drop the loot, the bosses do.
SoV is flat better than every other seal for tanking. I use it when I run even heroics(which is extremely rare since I avoid them like the plague), even though it starves my mana pool simply because higher threat = lower chance of pulling aggro(For the other people in the group)= less deaths= faster clear= sooner I can go do something else.
Hmm, SoV > SoC, you may do more DPS with SoC but I think that there is no reason to spec into it for an optimized build. I'm pretty sure my build is still optimal for ToGC (I spec my Divine Sacrifice for ToGC to help the other tank.). I'm not sure though. I'd rather put an extra point in crit or 1% damage or what have you because on the boss it's going to help me more than a seal I won't be using for tanking a boss.
And why site a source for something I'm SURE is in the stickies on this very forum? It's called read the stickies THEN post. Those guys write them for a reason.
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108118
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Post by
pezz
Heroic trash is what we're talking about? Really?
I was offtanking for a horrible tank in cat form with cat gear on the other day. The healer had beacon on and I don't think he even noticed I was doing it. I wouldn't have if I was him, I just stare at the little green bars on my screen and drift off when I'm healing heroics. In raids you have several tanks, meaning everything ends up being tanked by a tank or there's so many mobs they're weak enough that it doesn't matter. (Giant first pull of the spider quarter, ftw)
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