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On death knights reporting to Varian/Thrall after the starting zone
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Adamsm
"If the death god came for you, I wouldn't stop him."
That's a far cry from "I'm gonna kill you."
It is? Sounds like he's saying it's fine for Yogg-Saron to break free and consume the world, which would include his own lands. He's not just condeming the Alliance, he's condeming his own people to death.
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Patty
forget about him, he's just another varian-zealot, simply not worth it.
sure dude, keep dreaming on and on. varian is the absolute master of the alliance, everyone has to do what he says or else. whatever.
Here is a idea Rankkorr, stop going around acting like you know everything, try to keep your posts with-in 2-4 paragraphs, and stop being so god damn baised about your POV, that no one else's matters.
Pot, kettle, black. Quit the personal insults, yes? Why do you think so many topics have been bloody locked when you, rankkorr and tauren insult eachother?
Do not instigate yet another argument, and yet another valid thread being locked.
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Rankkor
forget about him, he's just another varian-zealot, simply not worth it.
sure dude, keep dreaming on and on. varian is the absolute master of the alliance, everyone has to do what he says or else. whatever.
Here is a idea Rankkorr, stop going around acting like you know everything, try to keep your posts with-in 2-4 paragraphs, and stop being so god damn baised about your POV, that no one else's matters.
ez dude, my beef aint with ya, and there is no reason at all to be hostile.
(@patty I really don't know what's his problem I didn't even mentioned his name and already he's firing up the engines for another flame war that of course on his side is "I was joking LOL"
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Adamsm
And once again you exhibit the fact that you weren't paying attention while you were leveling through Northrend.There are draenei and Night Elves who change their ways of life while in Northrend? I never noticed that, and I've leveled multiple toons through there.
I never said he was. I said that he might as well be because of all the influence he has.Where is this influence? He has none with the Draenei, most of the Theramore people are leery of him, the Night Elves know of him, but their own opinions mean more to them, even the Dwarves are willingly to work with him, but they don't put him ahead of their own needs.
But it means everything as far as relations go.Refer to my above.
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Adamsm
While the Draenei joined the Alliance against the Burning Legion, opposition to the Horde comes with the package, and after what the Orcs did to the Draenei, I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of Draenei desire vengeanceWhich proves you need to do research as well. Velen has stated any further conflicts with the orcs are useless, the Draenei for the most part, note I say most, have forgiven the Orcs for what they did. They actually proved they had sadness and despair for the orcs during the Draenor war; as they killed the orcs cleaning and humanily, knowing you put down a maddened animal and not make it suffer.
Yes, there are still Draenei who will fight the orcs, but most are following their leader and allowing a chance for peace.
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Yes, there are still Draenei who will fight the orcs, but most are following their leader and allowing a chance for peace.
And how do you know that their experiences within the Alliance and learning what the Orcs did to the Humans, Dwarves, and High Elves, along with what they're STILL doing to the Night Elves, combined with incidents like the Broken Front, haven't turned more draenei against the Horde?
I happen to know that Colosos, the grand champion of the Exodar, is battling against the Horde in Icecrown Citadel.
Colosos? Never heard of him.
Anyways, as for your other 'points' it wouldn't matter to the Draenei, they have agenda that is different from the Alliance, they are trying to create the Army of Light, which will be made up of most of the races on Azeroth, Horde and Alliance(refer to the Shattrah speeches to find out more about that). Seeing as Velen willingly helped the Blood Elves re-ignite the Sunwell with the help of M'uru, seems he and his have a willingness to forgive the past.
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Patty
Horde fight him. He is the Alliance shaman in ToC 5 man. Anyway, he is not there to kill hordies and "me smash ebul" - He is there to join in with Tirion's little tea party in Icecrown.
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Adamsm
The fact that they are part of the Alliance means that they are opposed to the Horde. It's that simple.Nothing is simple in Warcraft; todays friends can be tomorrow's enemies after all.
Seriously thought, the Draenei and to a lesser extent the Tauren are the Neutral races of both the Alliance and the Horde; they are the ones who want peace over war and the like. Hell, their even similar in backgrounds; the Grimtotems to the Man'ari and so on and so forth. Nothing is black and white in this game, the 'neutral' factions prove that after all.
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Adamsm
Then why aren't the draenei and tauren neutral factions? Because they support either the Alliance/Horde over the opposing faction.Well... not exactly. The Tauren follow Thrall because he helped save them from the Centaurs. The Draenei met the Night Elves first, and learned about the wars against the Legion, and how the races had fought back. I'm sure, like I said, there are those who feel they should wipe out the Orcs, but their Leader, Velen and the Naaru have told them no, and similar to the Horde, once Velen says something, his people will listen.
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Rankkor
you can't put colossos as an example of a draenei hating the horde, he says that his orders are clear, he's simpy following a comand, that doens't mean he's there because he wants to be there.
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