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Big arena nerf on undead, ( Wotf got nerfed )
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Noxnoctem
Yeah it's going to take a lot more than this nerf to make me roll Ally.
Are you sure
?
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Noxnoctem
rofl face the fact that every man for himself is a BIT OP atleast , dont go full defence flame mode.
Ok I relent a little bit, EMfH does seem to be the most powerful PvP Racial as of now. This is because, after giving it some thought, EMfH
scales with new content
. The more and more times Blizzard add new and more powerful content it becomes possible to access much stronger gear and items, as is the nature of Progression. Trinkets are not an exception to this rule. For the other races who want to PvP they are stuck with 1 free trinket slot which are usually taken up with the Battlemaster trinkets etc. Standard PvP-fare.
However, what happens when you already have the standard trinket slot free?As n4rt0n pointed out, you get combinations such as this:
Reign of the Dead
+
Battlemaster's Ruination
and
EMfH as standard. You don't even need to number crunch to see the possible tremendous DPS-increases that this gives in Arena play. Not only that but EMfH will become
more
powerful once ICC hits with ilevel260+ gear coming into existance due to the fact the level-cap not being raised until Cataclysm.
I think what's funny is that even if WotF was not about to get nerfed, EMfH would still be stronger once ICC hits. WotF doesn't scale with new content, it's just a potent PvP-racial that stays at that potent power level. EMfH will always get stronger exponentially, that is until Blizzard realises this and perhaps put a stop to this. As I can see too that not changing EMfH now will result in a large power shift towards an Alliance bias, regardless of WotF being nerfed or not.
My advice to the Ally PvP-players thinking about faction changing to
Forsaken
Horde? Don't. Good things come to those who wait, assuming Blizzard doesn't change EMfH, we'll see a large power shift to the Human Bias.
Post by
chase123
Yeah it's going to take a lot more than this nerf to make me roll Ally.
Are you sure
?
NEVER!
*makes female draenie toon in secrecy*
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Noxnoctem
And any non retarded person doesnt have to number crunch to see a horde caster would also have
Reign of the Dead
but the wg trinket which has 111 sp as his second trinket instead of
Battlemaster's Ruination
. So basically the human is getting 39 more sp. HOLY CRAP THATS A 'tremendous DPS-increases'.
Reign of the Dead: Equip: You gain a Shard of Flame each time you cause a non-periodic spell critical strike. When you reach 3 Shards, they will release, firing a Pillar of Flame for 1959 to 2275 damage. Shard of Flame cannot be gained more often than once every 2 sec.
I call that a large DPS increase.
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Wildhorn
Yes cuz
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59752
isnt op at all?
Did you notice the "shares a cooldown" (2mins) part or you are blind?
At least wotlk will only proc a 45sec cooldown.
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n4rt0n
However, what happens when you already have the standard trinket slot free?As n4rt0n pointed out, you get combinations such as this:
Reign of the Dead
+
Battlemaster's Ruination
and
EMfH as standard. You don't even need to number crunch to see the possible tremendous DPS-increases that this gives in Arena play. Not only that but EMfH will become
more
powerful once ICC hits with ilevel260+ gear coming into existance due to the fact the level-cap not being raised until Cataclysm.
And any non retarded person doesnt have to number crunch to see a horde caster would also have
Reign of the Dead
but the wg trinket which has 111 sp as his second trinket instead of
Battlemaster's Ruination
. So basically the human is getting 39 more sp. HOLY CRAP THATS A 'tremendous DPS-increases'.
I think what's funny is that even if WotF was not about to get nerfed, EMfH would still be stronger once ICC hits. WotF doesn't scale with new content, it's just a potent PvP-racial that stays at that potent power level. EMfH will always get stronger exponentially, that is until Blizzard realises this and perhaps put a stop to this. As I can see too that not changing EMfH now will result in a large power shift towards an Alliance bias, regardless of WotF being nerfed or not..
You forgot to take into account what happens if blizzard releases new wg pvp trinkets next patch? Which is probably what they are going to do although who knows for sure.
Isn't all about spell power, but utility for example
even with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45466
the difference is huge (a mage with full haste off-set + icy veins + this trinket)
or take a look on this Priest
http://kr.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=%EB%B3%80%EB%A7%88
Here is an example of the human racial being extremely abused, this priest with both trinkets proc'd got 800mp5 while casting, playing double healer.
or a Rogue playing with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44253
+
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47464
I'd even link some possible combinations with ArP trinkets, but it'd be too long.
The human racial is OP, not saying that Wotf isn't OP.
Human racial yes deserve a nerf, and the nerf on WoTF IMO is too much.
I'm a Gnome Warlock
Post by
Aedalas
Yes cuz
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59752
isnt op at all?
Did you notice the "shares a cooldown" (2mins) part or you are blind?
At least wotlk will only proc a 45sec cooldown.The point is (as has been mentioned many times in this thread, are
you
blind?) that with this racial you can equip two trinkets that
are not
insignias/medallions. Which of course puts this racial in a whole new ballgame. Try to keep up please...
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