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Post by
Rankkor
4: When did this army assembled? It was my understanding that the naaru would assemble the army of light when the time came to face the legion. Now it turns out they assembled it thousands of years ago, out of some eredar that came from god knows where, and have been fighting the legion all this time?
Maybe they haven't assembled, and we're just seeing the forces that were close enough to respond when Illidian pulled his trick? So the army itself is still scattered into various divisions waiting to reassemble. It might explain the draenei forces.
Except Turalyon says he and the army of light have been fighting for thousands of years. So they assembled a long time ago.
Post by
Adamsm
For the where these new Draenei came from, it could have just been more ships then we realized had been used to save the Velen Exiles. There was mention of the Draenei landing on other planets and then having to run again as the Legion caught up to them. So it could be at some point they ended up splitting up the 'fleet' and some spread out across the galaxy fighting the Legion across multiple planets; after all, it was an accident that caused K'ure's ship to crash land and become Oshu'gan which stranded Velen and his people there on Draenor.
In other word, more lore change but if it was, you'd think they would have mentioned it in the Chronicles, but we'll probably learn that in C3.
Post by
oneforthemoney
4: When did this army assembled? It was my understanding that the naaru would assemble the army of light when the time came to face the legion. Now it turns out they assembled it thousands of years ago, out of some eredar that came from god knows where, and have been fighting the legion all this time?
Maybe they haven't assembled, and we're just seeing the forces that were close enough to respond when Illidian pulled his trick? So the army itself is still scattered into various divisions waiting to reassemble. It might explain the draenei forces.
Except Turalyon says he and the army of light have been fighting for thousands of years. So they assembled a long time ago.
He and a united army or just
the
army? They could be fighting as seperate forces on multiple fronts like Adamsm suggested for the draenei. Nitpicking and I doubt Blizz actually cares but a thought.
Aside from that, maybe they built it out of draenei that decided later to reject the Legion? We know demons can be purified, so maybe that? And they have had millenia to build up some numbers.
Post by
Rankkor
Aside from that, maybe they built it out of draenei that decided later to reject the Legion? We know demons can be purified, so maybe that? And they have had millenia to build up some numbers.
Hey now. There's a great theory.
I'll take it =D
Screw it, even if they don't point it out as the canon explanation, its in my head canon now.
Post by
morginar
So, the army of the light initiation is from forcing light into the throat of others like with illidan?
And they call the legion evil.
No wonder tyralion is the leader. He was the one willing, even when it got his waifu in jail.
Post by
Rankkor
So, the army of the light initiation is from forcing light into the throat of others like with illidan?
And they call the legion evil.
No wonder tyralion is the leader. He was the one willing, even when it got his waifu in jail.
To be honest, the whole cutscene of Xe'ra trying to force the light into illidan whether he likes it or not, felt an awful lot like Gul'dan trying to force the fel into Grom in WoD, whether he liked it or not.
"Drink grom! it is our destiny".
"Take the light illidan, it is your destiny".
Post by
Adamsm
Wow....just wow /shake head
There be spoilers
. Eh, why not:
Khadgar: The Legion is defeated. Its master, imprisoned.
But in his final spiteful act, Sargeras may have doomed us all. Our world is wounded, champion. Its life essence seeps out into the sands just as Magni foresaw.
This mere drop of Argus' blood surges with incredible power, the might of a titan.
if the blood of Azeroth also proves to be a source of such strength, those who seek to rule this world will stop at nothing to possess it. The days ahead may be dark indeed.
For now, go to Silithus, gaze upon the wound in the world with your own eyes. We will find a way to save Azeroth, I know it.
Post by
morginar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsaobgFiiso
Have fun
Post by
Stabhorn
Can someone explain to me why demons die in the Nether? I accepted it when I thought it was a biological function; demonic spirits perish when they're around too much fel, which I presumed to be their source. But now, since we know Argus is responsible for the reincarnation, why can't they be reborn if they die in the Nether?
Post by
oneforthemoney
I think their souls go back into the nether when they die. It's like an afterlife, only with less moving on and more coming back to be an even bigger !@#$.
Post by
Adamsm
Probably because their actual forms are in the Nether, and everything we've killed before now were just projections.
Post by
morginar
Same logic that makes elementals killable in the elemental realms?
Post by
Adamsm
/head desk
*sarcasm dead pan mood* Oh joy, yet another Golden novel.
Post by
morginar
Before the storm?
Naga time?
Hmmm, from what I remember of the shattering thrall was dull and got a love life the speed of light. But Baine was interesting, same with Jaina.
Anduin was still anduin so shrug.
As long as it's more drama than romance it would be good.
Post by
Adamsm
Probably will be more of the same as Tides of War and War Crimes....snorefests that infuriate you over the lazy writing, stupid plot points, and all of the characters carrying the idiot ball with glee.
Post by
Rankkor
This shouldn't surprise you. As of October 4th she's a full-time blizzard employee now (Specifically working on "Story and Franchise development"), as opposed to a freelance writer like she used to be. Expect most if not all of the writing in and out of the game to come from her from now on.
Its interesting that they'll do a wrap of the expansion in a novel form. Something that was clearly missing at the end of Cataclysm, which simply ended abruptly and transitioned into MoP out of the blue (Yes yes, Tides of War was in the middle, but I'll be damned if that was a proper bridge connecting the events of one expansion to the next)
Probably will be more of the same as Tides of War and War Crimes....snorefests that infuriate you over the lazy writing, stupid plot points, and all of the characters carrying the idiot ball with glee.
You say this, and yet, that's only two novels, compared to the several others she's done that have been way awesome.
Rise of the Horde, Lord of the Clans, Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, and Beyond the Dark Portal (She wrote the entire horde half on that book, while Aaron Rosenberg wrote the alliance half.) are phenomenal books that I simply could not put down. I simply devoured them from start to finish, they were that engaging, fun, and interesting. Twilight of the Aspects, while not on the same level as the aforementioned titles, was still a relatively interesting read, even if some parts of it made me cringe a bit. She also wrote the manga for Draka (A Warrior Made) and that was a damned good one.
And she also wrote the prequel novel to the warcraft movie, which was also about on par with Twilight of the Aspect, in that while not as good as her previous works, were still interesting reads.
Yes, Tides of War was infuriating, and War Crimes was a mess. But that's two duds on an otherwise flawless track record. So give her some benefit of the doubt man.
Even Award-winning legendary writers like the one and only Agatha Christie, wrote a few poorly received duds (One of the worst ones being "The Big Four") And this is despite her being the Guiness World Record holder for best-selling novelist of all time.
She wrote almost 70 books, of which over a dozen were flops that were greatly disliked, but the rest are currently masterpieces of literature.(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Rankkor##DELIM##
Post by
Adamsm
From Twilight to now she's been lackluster when it comes to WoW writing; Dawn of the Aspects was better, Shadows of the Horde was amazing and as boring as Illidan was, it was still a better read then her recent books. Honestly, they need to expand and get more writers; again, go back and pick up the writers they used with the Legends manga's as there were some good books there.
Yes authors have lulls....but when the last three books have been duds, time for her to take a break and let other writers step up.That's what I want; not more Golden books where sleep walks through the writing of it and barely goes outside of the Blizzard draft.
Though, since the Chronicles have come out, I do find it amusing her books are in danger of made non-canon :P
Post by
Rankkor
Yes authors have lulls....but when the last three books have been duds, time for her to take a break and let other writers step up.That's what I want; not more Golden books where sleep walks through the writing of it and barely goes outside of the Blizzard draft.
I'll once again refer you to the Guiness World Record best-selling novelist of all times, Agatha Christie who wrote over 12 crappy books (of which SIX of them were back-to-back) yet still was a fantastic author and critically acclaimed even today.
Though, since the Chronicles have come out, I do find it amusing her books are in danger of made non-canon :P
Not really. All her books cover lore post-warcraft 1, and that lore isn't being changed by the chronicles. The only book that was gutted was Rise of the Horde. All others are in no real risk at all.
Post by
Adamsm
We'll have to wait and see; it's possible they'll change something up with Thrall's backstory or with Arthas....but if we're really lucky, it'll fix that stupid thing with Kael hitting on Jaina at 16.
And they still need new writers; I'm not asking for Knaak to come back(even if I like a majority of his books), but at least let other people write the books. They had multiple writers who did amazing stories in the Legend's series that they could talk with to see if they want to do for full sized stories. But since Golden is the 'golden child writer', we'll never see that and just have to keep getting the same things she's been writing because a majority of the fan base 'likes' her books; I've seen it both on site and on Facebook when her things pop up. Had someone on the Facebook comments tell me that War Crimes was a masterpiece...and people were agreeing with them /sigh
And yes, I did like her early books; Rise of the Horde is excellent, Warrior Born was great, Lord of the Clans was amazing. Shattering was okay; that's where I started to find her books sliding into the meh category and then Twilight came out and just nose dived the style into Tides and Crimes.
Edit: But let's be honest, all of my major bias comes from how she handled Kalec; not just the romance thing which yes was Blizzard mandated, but how he's a living plot point in the books, there to be a yes man to Jaina no matter what.she does or say, tricked by the dumbest thing imaginable, that horrible 'you'll always be a brother thing' from Tides when Twilight said otherwise....UGH! So, that definitely taints my view of the books, but those two are still horrific and Twilight at least still treated him like an actual character.
Post by
greekryan
Is there a forum post, guide, or video that explains the lore and storyline for Legion, specifically from Patch 7.1 to 7.3? I found a full video on the 7.3 storyline, but can't seem to find anything for 7.1 until 7.3...Anyone got any suggestions? I really need to catch up on my lore.
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