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Post by
Rankkor
I'm excited about it >.>
I know lil' bro, its just a personal annoyance for me to have to do a redo of what we just did. It reminds me of that time I gave my cat a bath, spent nearly 15 min scrubbing her fur, and after I'm done, the first thing she does is take a diving dip into a mud pool.
That's how SoO feels for me now. Completely pointless. At the end of the day, Garrosh is still alive, he's still raising a massive army of orcs (even if he's no longer leading it) and its up to us to clean up the mess, again.
What I wouldn't give to have at least one, just ONE expansion where the main antagonist was an evil offshoot of the alliance. I dunno, something along the line of a group of extremists (maybe led by veterans of the second war) who wish to secede from stormwind due to considering Varian a weakling for not wiping out the horde, and reforming the scarlet crusade, and then declaring the alliance traitors to the original mission of the alliance (Wipe out the horde) and wage a war against both sides.
(I know, I know, I'll be the first to admit its an awful story, what can I say? creativity isn't my best feature, but something along those lines would be like manna from heaven for me. A change of direction where rather than fight an evil offshoot of the horde, be it current or old horde, we instead fight an evil offshoot of the alliance, be it current, or old alliance.)
If anything, if there's at least one thing to look forward in the next expansion for me, is that blizzard has promised two things.
A: Garrosh will NOT be redeemed.
B: WoD will mark the end of his story. While they said it would be a satisfying ending for both sides, for me, that remains to be seen, but as long as his story is over, I'll be satisfied. You have no idea how tired I am to have to put up with that moron. 4 expansions is MORE than enough.
Post by
oneforthemoney
I'm excited about it >.>
I know lil' bro, its just a personal annoyance for me to have to do a redo of what we just did. It reminds me of that time I gave my cat a bath, spent nearly 15 min scrubbing her fur, and after I'm done, the first thing she does is take a diving dip into a mud pool.
That's how SoO feels for me now. Completely pointless. At the end of the day, Garrosh is still alive, he's still raising a massive army of orcs (even if he's no longer leading it) and its up to us to clean up the mess, again.
What I wouldn't give to have at least one, just ONE expansion where the main antagonist was an evil offshoot of the alliance. I dunno, something along the line of a group of extremists (maybe led by veterans of the second war) who wish to secede from stormwind due to considering Varian a weakling for not wiping out the horde, and reforming the scarlet crusade, and then declaring the alliance traitors to the original mission of the alliance (Wipe out the horde) and wage a war against both sides.
(I know, I know, I'll be the first to admit its an awful story, what can I say? creativity isn't my best feature, but something along those lines would be like manna from heaven for me. A change of direction where rather than fight an evil offshoot of the horde, be it current or old horde, we instead fight an evil offshoot of the alliance, be it current, or old alliance.)
I'm afraid Blizzard relegated that plot to Frozen Throne and Admiral Proudmoore. Unfortunately, at this point most of the Alliance high command of sufficient influence to do so is already fighting the Horde at a total war level, so until some standards are reinforced going off the deep end is standard of the day.
Post by
Rankkor
not anymore. Varian officially makes peace with the horde at the end of SoO, and while we still need to see what sort of terms and reparations need to be exchanged between both sides (I'm guessing that's gonna be explored on the next book) the hostilities are over.
There are a few zealots among the alliance that will not take it well to be forced to not fight the horde. Keeshan, Rogers, Jaina, and Vereesa come to mind.
But the chances of seeing this happen are mathematically ridiculous.
Post by
oneforthemoney
not anymore. Varian officially makes peace with the horde at the end of SoO, and while we still need to see what sort of terms and reparations need to be exchanged between both sides (I'm guessing that's gonna be explored on the next book) the hostilities are over.
There are a few zealots among the alliance that will not take it well to be forced to not fight the horde. Keeshan, Rogers, Jaina, and Vereesa come to mind.
But the chances of seeing this happen are mathematically ridiculous.
Considering what the next expansion chooses to explore, I'd say so.
Post by
Rankkor
Considering what the next expansion chooses to explore, I'd say so.
What do you mean? sorry, I'm not following (I'm sorta tired and slower than usual)
Post by
Adamsm
Well..except for the Forsaken; he still wants to push north and drive out Sylvanas.
Post by
Rankkor
Yes but through non-agressive ways. Its obvious that the situation with Gilneas will be the first thing to be discussed in the terms of peace between both sides, followed closely by the warsong in Ashenvale, and the humans in durotar, as well as the massive troops on the barrens. But still, the "Total War" situation is over.
Right now we're back to Cold War. Not "buddy-buddy-love-love-BFF" with each other but not "I'M GONNA KILL YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, AND YOUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN TOO" either
Post by
470415
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Post by
Rankkor
Rankorr. I know you're passionate about this whole 'omg off shoot alliance horde is the enemy again'
but can we avoid repeating it in every single thread/conversation about WoD like five times.
there's still like a couple months until the expansion and I'm going to strangle you if you keep this up the entire time.
T_T but it stings dammit.
Besides, it could be worse. If we EVER get to have an expansion where the main antagonist is an evil offshoot of the alliance, knowing myself, you'll probably NEVER hear me shut up about it =P
Alright, I'll tone it down as best as I can.
(but don't expect me to not be grumpy about it >_>)
Post by
470415
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Rankkor
Be grumpy all you want about it, but be grumpy in your head. :P
I'm always grumpy in my head >_> after all,
THIS
is my happy face.
Post by
Monday
If my internal monologue ever leaked out, I'd probably be jailed on obscenity charges.
Especially while driving.
Post by
Rankkor
If my internal monologue ever leaked out, I'd probably be jailed on obscenity charges.
Especially while driving.
o_O people can be jailed for having a potty mouth? Only in 'murica.
Post by
Monday
Well, no. First Amendment and all that.
I was engaging in some hyperbole.
Post by
Rankkor
Alright.
Slight change of topic: Adamsm said it on the thread that got locked, so it bears repeating it here, in the off-chance someone missed it:
Next book has been announced.
Title: War Crimes.
Author: Christie Golden.
Release Date: June, next year (barring unexpected hiccups)
Not much info about it, few snippets released: (Warning here ye be spoilers)
Based around the trial of Garrosh in pandaria.
Tyrande is the main prosecutor. (I suppose that's fair, her people have been hit the hardest in ashenvale, though Jaina is a close second but given her...... shall we say..... "fragile" state of mind, its not too good idea to let her handle it)
Baine is stuck having to defend garrosh. Apparently the idea is that since garrosh killed his dad, Baine would be completely unbiased and would give garrosh a fair defense. Man, that's one of the most insensitive moves they could make to the poor old bull. There's "Kick the puppy" then "Shoot the puppy" and then "Force someone to defend garrosh, and for extra kicks have it be the son of one of his victims"
Jaina and Kalec's abominable relationship isn't going so well (words fail me to express how happy this makes me :P that sin against nature should had never happened in the first place)
Book will be more like "The Shattering" in that it wont have a central protagonist, instead, each of the major racial leaders will have a lot of time on the spotlight (Except for some reason, Lor'themar U_U his involvement will be minimal)
Jaina and Sylvanas in particular will have important subplots of their own. (great...... unless it involves both of them having a stroke, not really interested)
Post by
oneforthemoney
Considering what the next expansion chooses to explore, I'd say so.
What do you mean? sorry, I'm not following (I'm sorta tired and slower than usual)
The more focus on different time lines and people who by all rights should be long dead instead of, you know, things still happening in Azeroth.
Post by
Stabhorn
Apparently there used to be a dead Old God minion named Sor'getha in the Twilight Highlands, extremely similar to Soggoth the Slitherer. It was scrapped for some reason, replaced with the Crucible of Carnage.
Post by
Lordplatypus
What i'm tired of is the villains having to be an damn offshoot, but do you see me complaining?
They're the mainstream and the "Thrall" horde is the minority.
They don't see orgrimm's glassnost campaign was anything but right, they lionize a war criminal, and they post his name on their capital
They GLORIFY the mass-murdering puppy-kicking &*!@#$%s the horde were, and apparently think the alliance were WRONG to put them in internment camps. If they only knew what the other option was.
Oh how much I loathed how we didn't take advantage of the caverns of time show the various leaders of the alliance what the horde would do, the countless crimes, show them what will happen if they don't kill the orcs then and there.
You have no idea how much it feels good to get that off my chest.
Post by
morginar
They don't see orgrimm's glassnost campaign was anything but right, they lionize a war criminal, and they post his name on their capital
He was a rather honnorable bloke. And in the real life there are many monarchs who has done worse crimes and yet named a city after himself.
Oh how much I loathed how we didn't take advantage of the caverns of time show the various leaders of the alliance what the horde would do, the countless crimes, show them what will happen if they don't kill the orcs then and there.
Time-whimey paradox.
You have no idea how much it feels good to get that off my chest.
It's a game, writen for two factions. And it is a game, no need for fanatics. Or fan for short. And did you know fan means devil in my native tounge?
Post by
Adamsm
They don't see orgrimm's glassnost campaign was anything but right, they lionize a war criminal, and they post his name on their capitalCompared to Blackhand and Gul'dan...yeah, having Doomhammer as the leader of the Horde was the better bet.
apparently think the alliance were WRONG to put them in internment camps. IYes because living in filth, being dragged out of the camps to be forced slaves or fight to the death in the gladiator rings was such a good thing /roll eyes
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