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Rankkor
They say it, but I really doubt it.
They're just attempting to make it ambiguous when he's gonna go back to being warchief regardless, they just wanna make us doubt it until it happens. That and it's a blue poster, zarhym, he has no say in the story whatsoever, metzen already said thrall is coming back as warchief so.......I think they're just regretting revealing the ending before the game even came out......
"We don't have planned to add pandarens in the game except in maybe comics or easter eggs"
that phrase rings a bell? that was them, denying that Mist of Pandaria was the next expansion for wow, they very specifically said that they would not add pandarens in an official way to the game.
Turns out, it was just red herring to keep the game "secret"
We all know Thrall is gonna be warchief again, they're just trying to use the good ol' "Red Herring" again to try to keep us in suspense. But the truth is, this time it lacks validity. WHO ELSE could possibly end up as warchief?
With garrosh we kinda saw it coming because he was groomed into the role for 2 expansions and several books. They shoved him in our faces during most of WOTLK, and placed him on every comic, and book ever since he made his debut.
But we haven't seen another orc being groomed this way to be placed into the role of the warchief. Replacing a leader is a tricky business, if you just pull someone out of thin air, he or she won't be well received. Replacing Bolvar with Varian came out of nowhere, but since vanilla players were informed that Bolvar and Anduin were temporary leaders and that at some point the real king would return.
Other than Bolvar, the other replaced leader was Cairne, and yes, his replacement dind't had much grooming, but again, Cairne had a son, not very fleshed out, since his appearances were very limited, but still a son. Magni also had a relative that could take his place (Sorta) with Muradin.
But this leads us back to Thrall. Since he has no sons (yet) nor any siblings, then whoever takes his place as warchief has to be groomed for the role, and as I've said before, nobody has been groomed for it whatsoever. Saurfang is too old, Draenosh is dead, and the rest of the orcs play roles so small, most players don't even know their names.
So yes, this is just Red Herring to try and pretend someone else is gonna be the warchief, just as they used Red Herring with MoP to try and keep players guessing what expac would come next.
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Rankkor
and here it is people:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/119/1191590p1.html
Remember this? because I do.
Remember good ol' Tom Chilton saying how the rumors of MoP were "grossly overhyped" and that "when we do anything panda-related it's going to be a comic book or a figurine or something like that."?
Cuz I do.
That was classic red herring to keep players guessing what the next expac would be. And many of us (myself included) took the bait and simply dismissed MoP as nothing more than maybe a mini-game planned for blizzcon or something like that.
Not anymore.
This time, I aint biting the red herring.
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588688
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Post by
Rankkor
WHO ELSE could possibly end up as warchief?
Aggra?
DON'T YOU EVER
EVER
SUGGEST SUCH BLASPHEMY EVER AGAIN!.
I swear to god almighty I'm gonna stab someone at blizzard if they make Aggra the god-damn warchief.
(ok not really, but if they pull that move, its BYE-BYE wow for me. It was bad enough that I had to stomach Garrosh for 2 years, and will have to stomach him again for another expansion. If I have to put up with that b1tch for the rest of the game, I honestly prefer to just pack my bags and continue my Online Gaming on SWTOR)
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Morec0
Zala, or whoever the Dragonmaw leader was in Twilight Highlands, would make an interesting Warcheif. A bit like Garrosh but not as naive and stubborn, also having a woman as warcheif might not sit well with some members of the Horde, leading to some cool possibilities to show just how tough she actually is.
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Rankkor
Zala, or whoever the Dragonmaw leader was in Twilight Highlands, would make an interesting Warcheif. A bit like Garrosh but not as naive and stubborn, also having a woman as warcheif might not sit well with some members of the Horde, leading to some cool possibilities to show just how tough she actually is.
I can approve of that. It would be a shame if thrall doesn't return, but if Zaela is made the new warchief, that would be awesome. To me she's the TRUE AND REAL example of how an orc female should be.
Not like that................/angry-muttering........................./muffled-swearing...................aggra :S (yes I really REALLY hate her guts
TO DEATH!
)
Alternatively, here's another interpretation of Zharym's post, that would make what he says true, but would also make what metzen said true.
A posibility would be that Thrall returns as LEADER OF THE ORCS, but the position of Warchief is abolished. Rather than have one dude making unilateral decisions for the entire horde, each leader pitches in, much in the same way the alliance does.
This would mean that yes, just like metzen said, thrall returns, but also like zharym said, not as warchief.
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Adamsm
A posibility would be that Thrall returns as LEADER OF THE ORCS, but the position of Warchief is abolished. Rather than have one dude making unilateral decisions for the entire horde, each leader pitches in, much in the same way the alliance does.So the Horde goes as useless as the Alliance then lol? =P
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Orranis
Not like that................/angry-muttering........................./muffled-swearing...................aggra :S (yes I really REALLY hate her guts
TO DEATH!
)
I think you really have to get of your jealousy and just realized that you and Thrall never would've worked out and it's for the best (jk).
I think it's perfectly possible that he might not return as Warchief. The one thing I've learned is that nothing Blizzard releases is 100%. While the 'no one Warchief' is a possibility, there are a number of notable other Orc (or perhaps non-Orc) members of the Horde who could fulfill the position.
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Adamsm
While the 'no one Warchief' is a possibility, there are a number of notable other Orc (or perhaps non-Orc) members of the Horde who could fulfill the position.
Still goes back to the main issue that Orcs won't follow a Non-Orc; it's why Cairne was passed over to hold the reins while Thrall went off to Nagrand originally.
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Rankkor
A posibility would be that Thrall returns as LEADER OF THE ORCS, but the position of Warchief is abolished. Rather than have one dude making unilateral decisions for the entire horde, each leader pitches in, much in the same way the alliance does.So the Horde goes as useless as the Alliance then lol? =P
hey ,its blizzard we're talking about. Their capacity to create a GOOD story has diminished lately. On warcraft at least. War3 had a great plot, but with wow, is like each expansion does a worst job than the other one in terms of plot and dialog writing.
Thank god Starcraft is still as solid as ever.
Not like that................/angry-muttering........................./muffled-swearing...................aggra :S (yes I really REALLY hate her guts
TO DEATH!
)
I think you really have to get of your jealousy and just realized that you and Thrall never would've worked out and it's for the best (jk).
¬.¬ I think you're confusing me with Taurenmoo. I didn't said it for me, it was for Jaina. I've been a loyal follower of that ship since it began well over 10 years ago, and hated how unceremoniously it was sank for no god-damned reason. They could had been just friends till the alliance and horde put down their differences once wow is over.
I think it's perfectly possible that he might not return as Warchief. The one thing I've learned is that nothing Blizzard releases is 100%. While the 'no one Warchief' is a possibility, there are a number of notable other Orc (
or perhaps non-Orc
) members of the Horde who could fulfill the position.
There is a very good reason why NEVER will a non-orc fill that position. Its one thing to lead the horde, and another entirely to lead the orcs. Its as if varian and anduin got killed, and Malfurion (or just another night elf) sat on the throne of Stormwind. It will NEVER happen. EVER.
Whoever gets selected as Garrosh's replacement, will not only lead the horde (unless the warchief position is abolished) but also lead THE ORCS. And as such, it MUST be another orc.
nobody else.
and since we haven't seen anyone getting the spotlight (that's a thing with blizz, wow has a lot of minor characters, but the main attention is always focused on a teeny-tiny group of "protagonists" who get all the glory) or being groomed into the position, there's nobody else lining up for the job.
And they can't just pull an orc out of nowhere to lead the horde. So, unless MoP is based 20 years after cata, or the finale of MoP is based 20 years after patch 4.3, THERE IS NOBODY ELSE lining up for the job.
Why is the 20-year figure so important? because Thrall has a son/daughter, as revealed by Alextrazsa, and I figure that little kiddo could be the warchief one day, one very very distant day.
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588688
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Adamsm
Yeah...they won't do that; they may have a high ranking Orc for some zones, but just like all the others, they'll be forgotten to let Thrall take the reins again.
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Orranis
While the 'no one Warchief' is a possibility, there are a number of notable other Orc (or perhaps non-Orc) members of the Horde who could fulfill the position.
Still goes back to the main issue that Orcs won't follow a Non-Orc; it's why Cairne was passed over to hold the reins while Thrall went off to Nagrand originally.
That still leaves tons of Orcs who could fulfill the position. Saurfang seems a bit old, is Eitrigg any younger?
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Adamsm
While the 'no one Warchief' is a possibility, there are a number of notable other Orc (or perhaps non-Orc) members of the Horde who could fulfill the position.
Still goes back to the main issue that Orcs won't follow a Non-Orc; it's why Cairne was passed over to hold the reins while Thrall went off to Nagrand originally.
That still leaves tons of Orcs who could fulfill the position. Saurfang seems a bit old, is Eitrigg any younger?
Eitrigg is just as old if not older then Saurfang. And while it does leave a lot of orcs...they'll still just go the simple way of putting Thrall back in power.
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588688
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Adamsm
So, been doing the quests in the Kun-li Summit today/yesterday...and the Yaungol(Yak Tauren) are definitely breaking the mold, even if they are being influenced by the Sha to be more aggressive: They aren't like the Tauren or the Taunka; they drill oil wells, 'enjoy' slavery, and are just plain vicious compared to their cousins...and honestly, I kind of like it.
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