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Post by
Rankkor
Horde intro for the pandaren is up, and yup, ignorant people keep posting crap like this:
Alliance yet again plays second fiddle to the Horde, acting as nothing but sidekicks and advancing THEIR story. The Alliance exist as characters in the Horde story.
/sighs.
Because taking down the alliance taking out the horde warchief has no bearing on the alliance story at all......ugg, a lot of these whiners don't understand what "shared lore" means.......they think that if one side has any part of the other sides lore, it's not that side's lore anymore. Hurp Durp.
=/ this is one of those few moments in which you and I see eye-to-eye.
I only wish there were more "shared lore" moments in the game (Like that term :P I hope u don't mind if I use it)
For example, the synergy between the events on Gilneas and Silverpine, and the synergy between the events on Stonetalon alliance and Stonetalon horde, or ashenvale alliance and ashenvale horde is fantastic.
Sadly it wasn't added in any of the higher level zones, nor anywhere else it seems.
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Post by
Rankkor
its one of the reasons I didn't liked the cataclysm endgame.
Choosing a faction is something that should matter, each side should have different quests from each other, and if these quests interweave with each other (like they did on Stonetalon, Ashenvale, and Gilneas+Silverpine) then all the better. Instead Hyjal was 100% neutral, Deepholm was 100% neutral, Uldum was 100% neutral, vashj'ir technically wasn't neutral, but the quests for both sides were 100% identical, only the questgivers were different, because quest names, and quest text, objectives and all were identical for both sides, and last but not least we get Twilight highlands, the only zone that actually had different content for each side (even if that different content was just 50% of the zone, the other 50% was neutral and identical for both sides)
I don't like that. On outland there were different quests and stories for both sides as was the case on northrend. Its what encouraged me to play both factions. Had I been alliance-exclusive I would had missed that FANTASTIC quest were none other than Saurfang battles side by side with me, or the quest were we introduce the Taunka to the horde. Had I been horde exclusive I would had missed the flashback quests for arthas, as well as Muradin returning from the dead on Storm Peaks.
On cata, it doesn't really matter what faction are you after 80, content is identical for both sides.
If anything, my real complain regarding what they're doing to Garrosh, is that this is the second time alliance get a chance to invade our turf. First battle for Undercity, and now Orgrimmar. We have yet to set foot on Darnassus, or Exodar, or Ironforge, or Stormwind (other than non-canon invasions to kill factions leaders for achievement).
We had to put down 2 rogue sub-leaders of the alliance (Fandral and Benedictus) but both were fought on hostile territory instead of Darnassus/Stormwind.
I'm hoping at some point in the future they fix that.
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Post by
Adamsm
Agreed; Fandral was imprisoned after the events of Stormrage, so having him in Darnassus again would have been a massive WTF moment. Same with Benedictus; he didn't blow his cover till the very end after all when it was just him against Thrall to try to stop him from taking down Deathwing.
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588688
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Post by
Adamsm
I still wish there was the cutscene from the cataclysm beta files of varian confronting benedictus was put inThat was part of the original
A Villain Unmasked
which had nothing to do with the end of game.
Post by
Behelich
They also removed the bit about Rommath being a traitor.
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Post by
Adamsm
Maiev isn't a faction leader, she's an exile; and if she's still hiding in Teldrassil, she's holding an even bigger idiot ball.
Moira isn't going to die for a long while.
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Post by
Rankkor
But yeah. I can't see any Alliance faction leader we would need to take out in their own capital city.
Does maeiv count? Even tho she's anti-alliance and is a wanted fugitive on the run in teldrassil. Oh oh, and moira.
Moira can count.
But again it doesn't HAS to be a faction leader, after all on Battle for UC it was Varimathras and Putress the ones being targeted. An alliance sub-leader going and staging a coup could be used so that both alliance AND HORDE players could raid an alliance capital
For example, a dark iron Lieutenant could go against moira, wanting the dark irons to return to their anti-bronzebeard tendencies, and stage a power-grab.
All I'm saying is that the balance needs to be tipped back a bit. With horde players getting at least once chance to invade an alliance capital just as they've had 2 chances to set foot on ours (3 chances if you count the brief visit to orgrimmar players had when they accompanied jaina to talk to thrall.)
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Adamsm
For example, a dark iron Lieutenant could go against moira, wanting the dark irons to return to their anti-bronzebeard tendencies, and stage a power-grab.Technically, that happened already lol; that's the whole point of the battle of Ironforge Airport.
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Post by
Morec0
Dudes! Check this out!
Someone screenshotted all of Kalimdor!
Post by
Levarus
Dudes! Check this out!
Someone screenshotted all of Kalimdor!
That, must, be, the coolest thing I've ever seen lol.
Post by
Rankkor
Dudes! Check this out!
Someone screenshotted all of Kalimdor!
That, must, be, the coolest thing I've ever seen lol.
O_O
whoever that was, he must have had a quantum computer (The kind that can run Crysis 2 at max settings and still experience 120 FPS)
Post by
Adamsm
Sold linked the thread for that in General; there are a bunch of images like that.
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