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GenXCub
Did you read the context of the post? Here, I'll post the whole thing.
When I say we want Fire to be about cooldowns, I meant that lining up your spells at the right time is the hallmark of a great Fire mage. I know a lot of players will say either LOL mages just spam one button, or else LOL mage dps is entirely RNG. I don’t believe either to be true, and the evidence supporting this conclusion is that there are mages who can do much higher damage than other mages, consistently and with similar gear. This suggests there is a much higher skill component to mage dps than even some mages want to acknowledge. A lot of that skill component for Fire / Frostfire comes in doing things at the right time (which we hope to contrast with Arcane and ultimately Frost).
What those things are you are supposed to manage come in several tiers: first are Scorch, Living Bomb and Hot Streak. Yes Hot Streak has an RNG component, but not entirely so. Players still have some control over it.
Second are things like Icy Veins, Combustion, Molten Fury, trinkets and even things like Flame Caps. Yes, I know that both Fire and Frostfire mages don’t always take all of those talents. A note on Combustion in a minute.
Third are more external cooldowns like say Bloodlust and Power Infusion. Yes, other classes benefit from these too. But mages can inflate their damage dramatically when they line these up with their other cooldowns. In the BC days, a mage who really focused on that last 20% of a fight could see their dps nearly double. (I acknowledge this was a bigger factor when Combustion was a bigger contributor.)
Fourth are factors that have less of an effect overall. I’m talking about things like PoM and Firestarter (not included in most raiding builds), and Focus Magic and Torment the Weak (not trivial, but generally up nearly all the time too).
He's saying that there are DPS differences in fire mages who have equal gear, and the differences come with the proper lining up of cooldowns, and something that is up all the time (like TTW which he mentions is
NOT
trivial) is not something to take into consideration for how to time your fire burst.
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PureGold
I don't exactly agree with his decisions, but to be fair, people quote the guy out of context too much.
Even quoting him out in context he doesn't seem to know what is going on...
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PureGold
I don't exactly agree with his decisions, but to be fair, people quote the guy out of context too much.
Even quoting him out in context he doesn't seem to know what is going on...
Quoting something out of context isn't constructive. No matter what.
I meant quoting him in context* pretty bad typo..
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Makross
Out of context or not, at least for the people that are or will read this thread its useful. I didn't know that post from GC either...
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Madmick
Content > context.
No, it's not.
The phrase "things that have less of an effect overall" only makes sense in the context that these talents/abilities he's now discussing are less effectual in terms of DPS in relation to the talents/abilities he discussed before.
So it appears that you simply don't want to allow the guy even the creative space to form a mitigating phrase around the talent.
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