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Post by
Squishalot
Tell me, Jubilee, where do you draw the line?
If someone dies in a bushfire accident, do we no longer backburn to avoid to avoid upsetting their family?
If someone dies in a plane crash, do we remove all planes of that model / airline from movies, television shows, from the air?
I am dismissive of why this offends them. Should it cause anguish and sorrow, as a reminder of a bad experience? I fully accept that, and I sympathise for their loss. Should they be
offended
by it? Absolutely not.
Post by
Jubilee
Tell me, Jubilee, where do you draw the line?
If someone dies in a bushfire accident, do we no longer backburn to avoid to avoid upsetting their family?
If someone dies in a plane crash, do we remove all planes of that model / airline from movies, television shows, from the air?
I am dismissive of why this offends them. Should it cause anguish and sorrow, as a reminder of a bad experience? I fully accept that, and I sympathise for their loss. Should they be
offended
by it? Absolutely not.
I said this several times, I'm not concerned about whether you disagree with them or not. Say you don't agree and say why, and that's that. What I find childish is the mocking tone you brought it in with.
Post by
Squishalot
I said this several times, I'm not concerned about whether you disagree with them or not. Say you don't agree and say why, and that's that. What I find childish is the mocking tone you brought it in with.
MyTie is here, in a debate, bringing his religion to the argument of his own choice... I have no motivation to defend christianity.
Whether you agree or disagree isn't a concern, really? You're applying double standards to things you agree or disagree with. You're issue isn't the fact I'm mocking somebody, the issue is that I'm mocking someone you feel an affinity with.
With that, I'm going to withdraw from this discussion as we're going off-topic.
Post by
Jubilee
I said this several times, I'm not concerned about whether you disagree with them or not. Say you don't agree and say why, and that's that. What I find childish is the mocking tone you brought it in with.
MyTie is here, in a debate, bringing his religion to the argument of his own choice... I have no motivation to defend christianity.
Whether you agree or disagree isn't a concern, really? You're applying double standards to things you agree or disagree with. You're issue isn't the fact I'm mocking somebody, the issue is that I'm mocking someone you feel an affinity with.
With that, I'm going to withdraw from this discussion as we're going off-topic.
You're confusing the reasons I give for defending people, and the reasons I'm giving for mocking being wrong. I'm defending these people because they are not here and I feel I have cause to defend them. I'm not defending MyTie because he is here and I don't feel I have cause to defend him. Mocking is still mocking in either case and is childish and really should have no place a forum a empathetic human beings, let alone said by someone who is supposed to be moderating that sort of thing.
Post by
Squishalot
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As I said, we're going off topic - I'm happy to discuss this elsewhere if you want. If you have an issue with anything I'm saying while I have green text, feel free to email and let them know.
Back on topic:
maybe the Catholic Church is starting to soften its stance on issues
.
Post by
MyTie
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As I said, we're going off topic - I'm happy to discuss this elsewhere if you want. If you have an issue with anything I'm saying while I have green text, feel free to email and let them know.
Back on topic:
maybe the Catholic Church is starting to soften its stance on issues
.
Actually, it's very very difficult to go off-topic in this thread, because the conversation is supposed to 'blossom' from news articles, and isn't really strict to one topic. Part of the reason I kept this topic as loose as I did when I made it was to allow tangents like this.
If Jubilee wants to argue why it is ok (in her opinion) for some people to be mocked, and others not to, and her opinion should be the judge of that, then I say let her. If anyone takes that stuff seriously, they aren't worth bothering with anyway.MyTie... ...he is advocating bigoted laws...
However, if this continues, I will report you. I have advocated for the repeal of bigoted laws, repeatedly. If you continue to make unfounded inflammatory remarks, I'm going to start letting the mods know each time. Regardless of our different beliefs, this is now quite clearly trolling, and I'd say violates Wowhead rules.
Post by
91278
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Post by
Squishalot
Actually, it's very very difficult to go off-topic in this thread, because the conversation is supposed to 'blossom' from news articles, and isn't really strict to one topic. Part of the reason I kept this topic as loose as I did when I made it was to allow tangents like this.
Fair enough, I'll pay that. I was actually under the impression that it was to spur discussion, and that the discussion could then go off and start their own new threads.
It is a straw man. Both of them are. One doesn't have to advocate for over-sensitivity in order to feel that some things are in poor taste.
It's not a strawman though. Explain why backburning isn't in poor taste, but building a similar looking building is? What are you even defining as 'poor taste'?
Post by
91278
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Post by
Adamsm
Can't really call it a strawman when it actually happened in regards to the Tower disaster, since it shows they are willing to do it.
Post by
91278
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Post by
Adamsm
As for the 'they' that refers to the American Media/Media Watch dogs in regards to things dealing with the 9/11 attacks/the Twin Towers; hell, they censored cartoons in addition to movies, real life tv shows and some comics....of course other comic companies went the other way and had their heroes in the aftermath helping to clean up.
Post by
91278
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Post by
Adamsm
/shrug If anything, it seems like both sides are raising the straw man high here.
It's still a fluff article piece that is barely news, and it's still a building being built for the fact that it's going to cause tongues to wag, people will visit it to see what the fuss is all about so the architect won with his plan.
As for the feelings of the families who lost someone in the tragedy of the attacks....well, welcome to the new millennium where your pain and suffering is money to someone else, and we have an entire generation of comics who make gallows humour.
Also, this is the internet, so expecting everyone to stand to one moral vein is really out there.
Post by
91278
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Post by
Adamsm
One side: Goes on and on about the pain to the families, and how this will affect them...if said families even know it's being built.
Other side: Wonders if we should ban and remove all references to any disaster.
Edit: But again, just refer you back up to the rest of what I posted there.
Post by
91278
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Post by
Adamsm
Edit: On second thought, never mind, don't want the thread to become more about the posters then the articles.
Post by
Pwntiff
NY Woman Dies in Elevator/Lift Malfunction
It doesn't say, but I wonder if that was a modern elevator that had a massive safeguard failure, or an older one that doesn't have modern safeguards.
Considered an Undercity reference in link, decided it was bad taste. >.<
Post by
Adamsm
Even in RL, the Elevator Boss still wins.
Maybe the Red Queen is in charge of that building.
Looks like Skynet came online earlier then expected. /gallows humour off
Non-bad humour comment; that is not a good way to go.
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