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Post by
Ksero
While that may have been your intent you failed miserably by posting a story that was a DIRECT ATTACK, you disproved your own point.
as for me saying why i dont post here, that has happened between all the multiple month breaks i have taken from posting at this site.
Post by
MyTie
While that may have been your intent you failed miserably by posting a story that was a DIRECT ATTACK, you disproved your own point.
I don't understand how, but ok.
Post by
134377
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
obviously designed to make a point
What point would that be, pikey?
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134377
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
How would I be received here, if I made up a story, that made a point. And that point that was made was that certain ideological based groups (tends to be gays, feminists, liberals) have a tendency to present themselves uninvited to force an unwanted desire to "convert" you into your otherwise happy day. They're always treated politely by me, but I do find their antics funny.
That people with prejudice often cause problems, and one of the most intelligent ways to prove them wrong is subversion of the prejudice.
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134377
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Post by
MyTie
How would I be received here.
To answer my own question, "not well".
Post by
134377
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
MyTie
How would I be received here.
To answer my own question, "not well".
You have no idea. "Not well" is an assumption.
What, am I new here or something?
Here is a
news article
about the way Christians are often treated by society.
Post by
Eccentrica
You take issue with the fact that we take issue with what you have to say? Is that the subcontext of your post?
Regarding the initial salvo of the article, it seems to me that some christians are finally starting to see the light. Believe all you want that homosexuality is 'wrong', just keep it to yourself.
Someone once said (and I would link the quote if I could recall who it was), 'Is there anything I could say or do to convince you to joyfully, willingly place my penis in your mouth and keep it there till I climax? No? Then homosexuality isn't a choice is it?'
Post by
MyTie
I'm not sure I follow, Eccentrica. It seems you are reading some "sub context" that ins't there are at all. I will say that your desire for Christians to "keep their beliefs to themselves" is fairly unacceptable. Try to put yourself into the shoes of the person you are being critical of, or if you can't do that, try to imagine they are making the same argument you are making back at you. How would you respond if someone told homosexuals to keep their views to themselves?
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134377
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Post by
MyTie
Come on! You chose to enter a public internet discussion forum. There will be nobody protesting against you outside your home in the morning. Just write your joke. Say what you have to say, but be willing to accept that there may be a reaction. Here, it's just words. You are not "Christians", you are one person. MyTie. I wouldn't even attempt to judge all the members of the church you attend by your thoughts, or you by theirs. Just say exactly what you think, as I know you do, and I respect you greatly for it. However, if someone like the religious leader in the article linked tells me that "homosexuality destroys lives", I am going to laugh, and shake my head at the obvious inability to use his eyes.
Do what you want, and I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm just saying, as I was in that original discussion, that stories that highlight stereotypes and make fun of certain beliefs, are hailed as legitimate, or at least, hilarious asides here. However, stories that make fun of other stereotypes, protected stereotypes, aren't. It's a double standard. All I was doing, when that original discussion happened, was point out that double standard here. That's it. That's all.
Post by
Eccentrica
The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition and 'witch' burnings were also fairly unacceptable. Missionaries are fairly unacceptable. The hate and venom spewing from clerics of the church are unacceptable.
People want to live their lives peacefully and quietly, but the church can never allow that. It is never content to live and let live.
When was the last time you had atheists knocking at your door, trying to shove pamphlets into your hand, and wanting to come in and talk to you about the wonders of the not-church and asking to not-accept Jesus into your heart?
Post by
MyTie
The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition and 'witch' burnings were also fairly unacceptable. Missionaries are fairly unacceptable. The hate and venom spewing from clerics of the church are unacceptable.
People want to live their lives peacefully and quietly, but the church can never allow that. It is never content to live and let live.
When was the last time you had atheists knocking at your door, trying to shove pamphlets into your hand, and wanting to come in and talk to you about the wonders of the not-church and asking to not-accept Jesus into your heart?
I agree with all of this. I think that actions like these, from people who call themselves Christians, are terrible. That said, I don't see what it has to do with me, or makes mockery of Christian stereotypes acceptable. I don't do that to gay stereotypes, nor atheist stereotypes. We aren't talking about the Crusades, we are talking about the way people mock others on internet forums. I fail to see how a thousand year old catholic war has to do with me being mocked on wowhead.
Post by
Eccentrica
You aren't being mocked. Your views are being questioned and you are being asked to take responsibility for what you say, and are being asked for clarification of perceived sub-text.
To clarify, believe in god, fairies, or Santa. I don't care. I assume, however, that you believe in freedom of religion. I believe in freedom FROM religion.
Post by
MyTie
Your views are being questioned and you are being asked to take responsibility for what you say, and are being asked for clarification of perceived sub-text.
Which view would you like me to take responsibility for, and clarify? I don't know anything about perceived subtext. You'll find I'm quite straight forward.
Post by
Eccentrica
How would I be received here.
To answer my own question, "not well".
You have no idea. "Not well" is an assumption.
What, am I new here or something?
Here is a
news article
about the way Christians are often treated by society.
Requoted to counter 'subcontext' question. One could opine that you linked the article you did merely in order to rabblerouse, in order to incite the reception you predicted, in other words to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. Thus I questioned your motives so as not to jump to conclusions.
Secondly, you quoted my last and then turned it around. I said views questioned, and responsibility for words, not the other way around.
Post by
MyTie
Requoted to counter 'subcontext' question. One could opine that you linked the article you did merely in order to rabblerouse, in order to incite the reception you predicted, in other words to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. Thus I questioned your motives so as not to jump to conclusions.
I read the news, en bulk. I post articles here that I find useful. There is no sub context, self fulfilling prophecies, or rabblerouse. Just linking articles.Secondly, you quoted my last and then turned it around. I said views questioned, and responsibility for words, not the other way around.
Just quote what you would like me to take responsibility for. What one of my views would you like me to clarify?
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