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Godwolf
PvP doesn't matter. I refuse to go away.
/cheers at getting Just the Two of Us with an enhance shaman
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Godwolf
Dang, gratz. I know a fellow on my server who played with an Enhance Shaman. He was like 1900.
I feel bad because we curb-stomped him when my Rogue and I globaled him (yay WotLK).
We faced a mirror team (Frostmage/enhance) a couple of weeks ago and they were around 1970 MMR. It was.... Not pretty. I felt bad for them, as I just think they made a bad call on who to attack.
As to the Patch.... Meh. I don't care. Just let mages control our images and stop them from breaking CC at all. For any reason. It's ruining world PvP for me when I can't control them and it ruins arena when my images get on the WRONG target.
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Post by
nickseng
Up on the PTR:
AB debuff duration reduced to 6 seconds
AB mana multiplier increased to 175% from 130%
I can see the debuff length being changed to "encourage" us to use ABarr on movement fights, instead of holding it until we get into position. I'm sure we'll see a lot of QQ on this, most mages don't like being "encouraged" :)
New AB stack costs :
0 stacks = 215
1 stack = 591
2 stacks = 967
3 stacks = 1343
4 stacks = 1720
And Kavan has a summary on the changes over at EJ:
0: AB
1: ABarr
2: MBAM
000000000000: 7130.751 dps, 752.7504 mps
000000200000: 6988.205 dps, 227.2016 mps
000000200200: 6895.808 dps, 189.2656 mps
000000200220: 6842.843 dps, 170.1821 mps
000002200220: 6591.532 dps, 100.8993 mps
000020100220: 6324.361 dps, 64.73375 mps
000100102200: 5998.047 dps, 33.79034 mps
000200100200: 5909.835 dps, 25.87355 mps
Wand: 471.0638 dps, -212.0525 mps
And summary in case that was too long...
Not much of a change. The rotations are basically the same, it only means that we'll have to evocate more than we previously predicted.
It also means that AB spam is almost certainly out of the picture
unless under extreme situations and we're basically
limited to balancing ABSpam4MBAM and evocation
.
I guess we're down to 1 rotation.
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nickseng
Thus spamming AB until MB procs and minimum 4 stacks on AB?
Or maximum 4 stacks of AB and MB regardless of proc?
And obviously manamanagement with evocate and gems.
Spam AB until MB procs and minimum of 4 stacks
Casting unbuffed AM is both bad dps and dpm
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Achloryn
Thus spamming AB until MB procs and minimum 4 stacks on AB?
Or maximum 4 stacks of AB and MB regardless of proc?
And obviously manamanagement with evocate and gems.
Spam AB until MB procs and minimum of 4 stacks
Casting unbuffed AM is both bad dps and dpm
i think he meant AM at 4 stacks regardless of MBAM proc
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nickseng
Thus spamming AB until MB procs and minimum 4 stacks on AB?
Or maximum 4 stacks of AB and MB regardless of proc?
And obviously manamanagement with evocate and gems.
Spam AB until MB procs and minimum of 4 stacks
Casting unbuffed AM is both bad dps and dpm
i think he meant AM at 4 stacks regardless of MBAM proc
Nick's definition of Unbuffed AM = AM without MBarr proc. :)
And you should not cast AM unbuffed, even if you have 4 stacks of AB up.
Post by
nickseng
Is Missile Barrage going to be a six point talent now? Because that's what it looks like with the numbers they've posted.
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8/16/12/24/32/40%
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Attempting to reduce the bloat in the Arcane talent tree by making us spend another point that could go elsewhere? I'm using GC logic here, so... >_<
Whatever you do, don't take the 3rd point ....
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Achloryn
Is Missile Barrage going to be a six point talent now? Because that's what it looks like with the numbers they've posted.
"
8/16/12/24/32/40%
"
Attempting to reduce the bloat in the Arcane talent tree by making us spend another point that could go elsewhere? I'm using GC logic here, so... >_<
Whatever you do, don't take the 3rd point ....
Ha, I guess that might be problematic. Cheers for typos and those who don't catch them before letting their outrage bubble up. :)
cheers for those of us who didn't notice the typo either, and were scratching our heads painfully as well.
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