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Shamans do NOT need an AoE!
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Post by
runtodarkness
They're fixing us... want proof?
Once 3.2 comes out i'm going to love my AoE... you can set up 3 totem things, so I'll set up my standard elemental totem set, and an alternate in the event I'm raiding with another elemental.
However, my 3rd would be the most epic. I'm elemental, so my earthbind does 5 sec of AoE roots. HELLO! Magma + Earthbind plus whatever you want for the other 2.
I must admit I lack having a true AoE, but now I can AoE DoT stuff, roots it for 5 sec, and slow it for 15 all on ONCE GCD. Add on whatever you want from air and water, so all of a sudden i've got AoE damage plus AoE heals, aoe slow, and it'll take a shot for me.
In 1 GCD i've just accomplished all of these spells:
- Consecration -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48819
- Piercing Shout -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12323
- Frost Nova -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42917
- Wild Growth -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53251
- Wrath of Air (or WF) -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3738
- Grounding Totem -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8177
*edit* So you're not formidable on the AoE charts with it, people can't tell you you're not being useful.
Post by
ZoraLink
So um. Why would you want to root them all? The only reason I ever root things is so that I can thunderstorm them without blasting them all over the map. This would be handy for soloing purposes sure, but for heroics/raids, your tank is probably going to be more annoyed than anything. If you do this with the roots, if the tank is out of melee range, the enemy will instead attack the nearest melee person. Which is bad. And dazing them is useless, unless the tank doesn't have aggro. Again. This is bad.
So yes, I'd say you're not being entirely useful. Not bad. But just about as useful as using a magma totem by itself, but with a potential to cause chaos when that rogue gets his ass kicked.
EDIT: Oh, and it's really obnoxious to move it. Especially as elemental. Unless you like standing in the middle of a group of enemies, following them around like you're a melee class. Not to mention setting it there in the first place is a pain the ass as well. Using a Stoneskin or Strength of Earth totem would help much more, since you're right by melee, rather than an earthbind.
Post by
Nothgrin
One little oversight:
As an Elemental myself we really hang out at range. How long will it take you to get to the front of the battlefield? That 1 GCD is now much more.
Post by
Zakkhar
In 1 GCD i've just accomplished all of these spells:
- Wrath of Air (or WF) -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3738
- Grounding Totem -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8177
*edit* So you're not formidable on the AoE charts with it, people can't tell you you're not being useful.
May i ask how exactly you plan on using two Air totems in one set within 1 GCD?
As for the rest. Magma totem has ridiculously low range. So unless you charge in and stand on the tank while putting it you wont have any use from it.
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Post by
runtodarkness
In 1 GCD i've just accomplished all of these spells:
- Wrath of Air (or WF) -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3738
- Grounding Totem -
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8177
*edit* So you're not formidable on the AoE charts with it, people can't tell you you're not being useful.
May i ask how exactly you plan on using two Air totems in one set within 1 GCD?
As for the rest. Magma totem has ridiculously low range. So unless you charge in and stand on the tank while putting it you wont have any use from it.
Yeah... you got me there, I feel stupid... Oh well, so I find when a tank makes a pull mobs usually end up all of say 10 yards in front of me. So maybe I'm running with the wrong people, or anything else, but as the point is I've heard, who cares if we get an AoE?
Nobody cares about trash dps, and imagine the power of this in the places you actually need it. The point I'm expressing is you can combine what you want to effectively customize your own AoE that does what YOU want it to, not what blizz says it does.
Post by
runtodarkness
In my honest opinion we do have an Aoe already which is for elementals. Thunderstorm.
Its a free instant cast which is a 45 second cooldown which does most of the time crit damage which can scale to much high burst damage, restores mana and knocks all nearby enemys within 12 yards of you to go back 20 yards which for me is a huge help and can also use earthbind combo to run backwards once they come back to you, instant cast flame shock then lighting bolt to finish off.
Enhancment do not need an Aoe anyways and if they did do then magma will help them a lot and Restoration is a healing spec so they have no need for Aoe attacks.
At the end of the day we are not really suppose to do Aoe like mages and warlocks and if you truly want to do Aoe all the time then being a shaman is not for you.
I appreciate what I assume to be your support!
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Post by
Gnub
Don't worry FaaR, it gets alot better later - you'll have tons of abilities to look at - trust me! :)
It's indeed boring up to around 40, when you get both Stormstrike (look, melee ability!) and dual wield. Later, there's Lava Lash (melee ability!) and Maelstrom that makes it very different.
Keep at it, you won't regret it later.
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