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Shadowform, while offering decent damage reduction and spell damage increase, can be a gimp in PvP.
I often find myself avoiding entering Shadowform in pvp so that I can heal myself after fights or even use Desperate Prayer during.

For grinding, however, this is perfect. Heals are replaced with Vampiric Embrace, which is increased by the shadow damage increase provided by Shadowform.

Комментарий от 8153

As stated before, this ability is only really useful during grinding by yourself in areas to defeat large chains of enemies. Your experience per hour can easily jump 30% with this ability alone. The problem lies in the fact that no healing can be used making this form worthless in PvP and annoying your party members while in an instance or raid.

The sad truth on most servers is a Shadow Priest can be the downfall of a party that relies on them to be an effective healer as they tend to be more interested in damage output than healing. If you're looking for a group as a Shadow Priest, your best bet is to stay out of this form to avoid tempation.

Комментарий от 9074

I think Shadowform lends the wrong perspective to aspiring shadowpriests. A priest is never and will never be a main damage class. Just like your group members' job is to keep you safe in PvP/PvE, your job is to keep the ones worth healing (not everyone, as the last comment mentions) up and doing the damage they can dish out. For those people that play a shadowpriest as a main dpser in raids, 5mans, and PvP, you'll probably quickly find that your dmg abilities leave you standing in the same spot too much for PvP and produce too much threat/dmg in PvE.

Consider going only partway into the Shadow talent tree to pick up some gems like Silence, Spirit Tap, Shadowweaving, and Mind Flay. Then... take a look at some of the amazing talents in Holy. Don't be stuck with the thought that Shadow == Damage, Holy == Healing, Discipline == Confused. It's simply untrue.

A well-played priest, not nessecarily a full shadow priest, will be the strongest and most well rounded for PvP and Leveling. For the good of your PvP and PvE group members, experiment away from Shadowform. ;-)

Комментарий от 9545

Going shadow you have to have this. Melting faces to the max!

Комментарий от 9250

Support and healing win fights, but damage is uber fun. Basically, if you want to win the battle, go shadowform. If you want to win the war, go heal.

Комментарий от Mikezila

I don't know what Shadowform the above posters are talking about, but if I'm in the battlegrounds as my Priest (I like the level 49 bracket, personally), nobody can stop me while I'm in Shadowform. You do crazy dps. Your Pain drains health bars like water through a strainer, and your Mind Blasts hit like Mac trucks.

Sure I lose the ability to heal myself, but Mages and Warlocks can't heal themselves, and they manage. So do I. So what if I have to stand still a lot? Mages can't through Fireballs while they're running. Warlocks cant dish out Searing Pain or Shadow Bolt while they're running. Just use bandages and potions like everybody else, and let everyone else know that you're not there to be their healing bitch. I'm not saying don't heal, just drop the idea that that should be your primary job. By all means right-click that buff icon and save people that need saving, but make sure everyone knows that you're not there to follow them around and keep their green bars full.

If you just drop the mindset that you have to win fights by healing yourself, your outlook on the deep Shadow tree gets a whole lot better.

I'm not saying that Shadow/Disc/whatever builds don't have their own merit, but full Shadow, including "how I'm not everyones health nanny"-form, has it's own allure.

What I'm saying is that you should at least try Shadowform and see if the altered play style is to your liking. Don't be discouraged by the comments on this page.

Комментарий от Thottbot

When you get to 60, yeah you could change from shadow form, but when lvling up shadow form is the best because it allows the priest to solo exceptionally well. So if you find a priest for an instance around 1-55, expect it to be shadow in most cases. Now I'm not saying everyone is shadow spec when it comes to priest, but you'll find alot of them at thoughs lvls.

Комментарий от Thottbot

As a Shadow priest you will melt faces in PvP.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I think I have just heard the stupidest thing ever. when my priest was 40 he took shadow form and I leveled faster than ne one in my guild not only that never lost a single pvp match. When we ran instances just took it off....healed no problem.

there is no reason not to do it. being specked in holy comes in handy now that I am doing mc and onxyia runs but to lvl to 60 anyone who dosent go in shadow form is a fool.

Комментарий от Thottbot

This skill is the reason of thousands face meltings all over the world ^-^

Комментарий от Thottbot

This ability transforms the priest into the highest damage dealer for lvl 40. Add VE and you have a pretty good group healer and secondary tank. A shadowform priest with a little shadow gear on can easily solo elites of equal lvl. And i don't have to mention the PWNing in PvP. This makes more than faces melt.

Комментарий от Thottbot

sorry to add another comment to the greatest ability in the game, but at lvl 40, i can go to Swamp of sorrows and SOLO 42 elite green scale guys, and wyrmkin......priest.....

Комментарий от Thottbot

Considering that you already had to level your other shadow talents on the way up (dmg +10%, improved sw pain), the damage bonus from Shadowform makes the priest world a better place. No more complaining that this form sucks because priests should heal... they turn it off and return to healing and buffing in an instant.

Комментарий от Thottbot

I am a shadow priest. I run instances. but guess what I do NOT I repeat NOT main heal.

OMG GASP SHOCK

I off heal for the main healer if need be but I am pure damage pure ownage shadow preist. I do as much damage as a warlock. and with my talents I GET NO AGRO. 45% reduction to agro with shadowspells. I can do as much damage as a mage or warlock with out worrying about getting agro. I can also off heal for the main healer and I can res. for all you people that say Preists have to main heal I am out there to prove you wrong.

Комментарий от Thottbot

'Shadow Form' is fantastic. +15% to Shadow DMG and -15% to physical DMG, it's a dream come true for a cloth wearing class! I bet Mage's wouldn't say no to such a form.

Using 'Vampiric Embrace' does allow for a slight amount of healing, but it is only a small percentage (20%), yet it also heals everyone in the party which makes up for lack of healing it does. With other shadow spells being cast upon the "embraced" target, such as 'Mind Flay' and 'Mind Blast' (don't forget the 'Shadow Word: Pain' DoT) then that 20% soon adds up.

As already pointed out several times, the Priest can come out of 'Shadow Form' at any given time to allow the Priest to heal themselves or others around them.

'Shadow Form' does help greatly in PvP and allows the Priest to deal a good amount of DMG, especially when paired with other spells such as 'Fear' and 'Power Word: Shield.' However, because of a Priest's healing abilities, they are targetted almost right away on the battle field and so do have a hard time. Please remember this, Warriors/Tanks ;)

Well that's just my two-cents on the subject. Hope this clears things up a little in one simple, easy to understand post.

- Olin

Комментарий от Thottbot

15% does indeed help alot.

For example, my 'Mind Blast' (at level 40) on average hits for say (let's round it off) 350. 15% of 350 is 47.5, so I'll hit for 397.5 instead. This helps alot, and could be the extra damage needed to bring down that Tauren Warrior that's charing at you ;)

PVP? Never done it really. I'm not bothering with it too much, plus I heal in PVP.

Yes, Shadow wands should indeed be amplified by Shadow Form. This is a good point and maybe should be answered by a more experienced Priest player.

Hope this helps.

Комментарий от Thottbot

Wand (shadow) damage does NOT recieve a boost from shadowform nor any other priest talent besides "Wand Specialization".

Комментарий от Thottbot

I cant belive it - someone is actually asking if this talent is worth it? :P

Well, do the numbercrunching. While going down towards shadowform you get (or should/can get) the following:

Improves SW:P
Improved Mind Blast
Mind Flay
Shadow Weaving
Darkness
And then Shadowform

And thats just the damage talents! With all this added together, it suddenly becomes VERY likable :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

In addition to my post above, i wanted to show you guys some number crunching, so that there is no arguing that shadowform is indeed worth it.

In order to get shadowform, you would of course have to spend talents in there. You'd be a fool if you at least didn't get these:

# Shadow Weaving - 5/5 points
Your Shadow damage spells have a 100% chance to cause your target to be vulnerable to Shadow damage. This vulnerability increases the Shadow damage dealt to your target by 3% and lasts 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times.

Total voulnability = 15%

# Darkness - 5/5 points
Increases your Shadow spell damage by 10%

And then theres shadowform itself = 15%

Level 40 mind blast does an averege of 288 damage. With these 40% extra, it would do an avarege of 403,2, and thats just for a 1.5 cast. You get 115,2 more damage! Now think about SW:P and mind flay also, and whatever you feel like throwing at them - your damage will GREATLY improve :)

Комментарий от Thottbot

does this work like the druid's shapeshifts (it is a shapeshift afterall) and grant u immunity to polymorph? it's unlikely, but it would be cool
and on more thing:
can u cast holy based spell in the discipline tab? it doesn't say "u can only cast discipline and shadow" but u "u can't cast holy" and many discipline spells are in the holy school

Комментарий от Thottbot

what about stop whining and learn to play?

Комментарий от Thottbot

In a raid, stick four Locks and a shadowpriest together in one group. The Priest's Vampiric Embrace means they can pretty much do without needing a healer's attention, Shadow Weaving basically gives you five Locks' DPS for the price of four, plus you've got Curse Of Shadows from the locks for even more damage. Couple that with the fact that Priests have about the best DOT in the game (Shadow Word: Pain) and one of the most mana-efficient damage spells (Mind Flay) and the damage potential of your "Shadow Crew" can be absolutely insane.

Only problem is when you then get five people arguing over +shadow drops ^_^

Комментарий от Allakhazam

cool.. its good.. I have shadow specc, but i dont use it in PvP.. I need my heals too much

Комментарий от Allakhazam

HAH, priest dosn't have fire macemanvivid.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

When I get it, i'll only use it in ballegrounds and mass oudoor PvP, as healing is ghey there =P

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Sounds like Shadow spec. Priest is the best class for me... I play as a LvL 34 Arcane Spec. Mage which is cool but being a shadow priest and having ALL that shadow damage power to harm people with spells that what I wanted from an arcane mage! so I dont know...
I guess its alt time! :)

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Soon you will all realize that shadowpriests are hated by all members in a guild. it barely worth having in battlegrounds.

Healing priest is helping the group better in all situations. so shadowpriset = noguild or friends to play with.

Комментарий от Allakhazam

Being a Shadowpriest just rocks. I use it for everything and with having every spec in Shadow, except for the 5 points in Discipline (Wand specialization), As Shadowpriest love anything with Spirit (currently 277 Spirit at level 49, but could be much more) the Shadowpriest doesn't need much healing and/or mana potions at all.

I have been a tank in several instances and amazed warriors (damn good experienced ones) as I defeat mobs and enemy NPC's faster than them and without hardly any damage (Thanks to PW Shield).

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