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Comentario de 9230

Woot, rogue tanks coming up in TBC :S

Comentario de 7343

This set is for feral spec druids, not for rogues. Pretty high amount of stamina, and defense, a great druid tank set.
Druids got a lot more armor than warriors, but they lack at defense. I think Blizzard made this set so the druids could get some + defense rating as well.

Comentario de 6341

Such a nice druid tanking gear. Haven't played tBC beta myself, but I heard there is about 450% armor contribution and 40% health (not the regulaty 1200) in bear form.
It looks that Blizz decided to make a druid not the healer but a typical hybrid, that depend on the build you can be either a tank, dmg dealer or healer.

This multiple funcionality might be a great thing making druid one of the most interesting class to play, especially when there are 5-10 man instance coming, and there won't be - as we are used to - 40 players where there'll be lots of healers/tanks or damagers, so druids won't be just 'healbots' but there will have to play at least 2 roles :(for example main healer and offtank the same time)

Comentario de 18784

And when you add enchants/sockets it starts to get crazy.

4xSolid Zircon = 24stam
4xThick Amber = 16def
(from vendor)

boots - fortitude = 12 stam
legs - silver spellthread = 15 stam, +31 healing spells (or vindicators armor kit)
chest - vindicators armor kit = 8def

socket bonus = 12dodge

Totals
+182 stam
+110 def
+12 dodge
+31 healing

and that's just 3 pieces!

Comentario de lichee

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you do NOT have to be a LW'er to equip this, correct? You just wont receive the set bonus of +20 Str?

Comentario de Flyv

Total mats required for the set:

16 Heavy Knothide Leather (80 Knothide Leather)
94 Thick Clefthoof Leather (approx 300 Clefthooves skinned)
12 Primal Earth (108 motes, approx 600 elementals killed)

Comentario de decker12

And for that extra Bear Form kick, add these easily obtained pieces to the set for some truly massive tanking stats:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30942
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30944
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31186

Plus, all those gem sockets on this set opens up some of the nicer meta gem bonuses. I haven't been using my:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28182

Because I just couldn't wrassle up enough gem slots in my tanking gear to make it worth while. But now with this set, shouldn't be a problem.

Comentario de 31147

Hopefully, the armor of this set will get buffed, and it will become a must-have for all bears.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=79628116&sid=1

Right now the bears i know use other items with less stamina and defense because of the lack of armor of this set.

Comentario de Magistrix

Does this set require 350 LW to get the bonus, or 350 LW to actually wear the pieces. Or does it require 350 LW at all?

Comentario de 9431

As a druid, I would most definitely fill every slot of this set with Solid Star of Elunes http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24033. Putting the set at 227 Stam. Topped with a HP chest enchant, Kit on gloves and enchant on leggings, you're looking at one hell of a pin cushion. Don't waste your slots with +Def, you're not killing a druid with 20k+ health. Not anytime soon anyway.

Comentario de 41459

the set has new stats with 2.1

less stam and def rating and more armor

http://666kb.com/i/angpzph3uqyipcru3.jpg

Comentario de 36680

the changes are way cool, just love this set now while it seemed a lackbuster before leatherworkers around the globe will now be selling these quite some more

Comentario de 1590

Summary of stats in 2.1 posted by kandarz:

Armor:1397 (+658)
Stamina: 108 (-23)
Defense rating: 74 (-12)

Comentario de homcy

If your not a LW'er you will still get the bonus.

Comentario de 70576

This whole set is of course solid for any bear tank starting early raids/heroics up until it can be replaced with feral tier gear.

However it's worth noting that the stats on the sets can be somewhat misleading. Besides stamina and armor which are of course staple stats for any tanking, three other stats appear on the set:

Defense Rating
While this stat certainly does work for bear tanks, and is widely featured on bear tanking items (e.g. Earthwarden), it is actually not the most ideal stat for them at all.

Defense rating decreases your attacker's chance to hit and crit you - which is good. It also increases at an equal rate your chance to dodge, block, and parry. Druids can neither block and parry, unlike warriors and paladins. Since the stat gives such effective avoidance for anyone who can both block and parry, it must be balanced accordingly in itemization relative to other stats. For a level 70, 60 defense rating increases the chance of all the above by 1%.

Resilience however, which so many players brand as "pvp-only", gives 1% crit immunity for only 39.4 rating. Since 1 resilience rating = 1 defense rating when it comes to itemization (compare for example Thick Dawnstone and Mystic Dawnstone), it is more effective to "shop" for resilience than defense in order to become crit immune.

So what about the -1% hit and +1% dodge (read: +2% avoidance) that 60 defense rating would also buy you? For avoidance bear tanks should always go for agility, where 14.7 agi gives +1% dodge, while also increasing +crit%. In theory, after the 39.4 resilience for 1% crit immunity, you could get 29.4 agility for +2% dodge and +1.18% crit, for a slightly higher cost in item budget.

The reduction to periodic damage from resilience is really just gravy but nice nonetheless and incidentally useful for druid tanks who already have problems with that sort of damage.

In other words, if you need more crit immunity and have the choice of either defense or resilience, always go for the resilience. For avoidance in general druids are best off stacking agility.

Please don't get me wrong though: Earthwarden is an awesome feral tanking weapon, regardless of defense vs resilience.

Dodge Rating
To get +1% dodge takes 18.92 dodge rating for any class at level 70. Druids get the same amount of dodge with 14.7 agility which also gives +0.59% crit. Since 1 dodge rating = 1 agility in item budget, dodge rating is clearly inferior in every way to druids.

As for the set bonus on this set, it may occasionally suit a druid just as well to use the right gems, but in any case that little bit of dodge rating really has very low value to us.

Strength
Generally not a priority stat for druid tanks although it should not be regarded as useless. Bears with their 25%+ crit get a lot more threat out of attack power than warrior tanks with 12% crit.

Comentario de 161527

General Information:

This gear CAN be worn by ANYONE regardless of whether you have Leatherworking (regardless of skill level) the ONLY catch is, if you want to be able to earn the BONUS Strength, you HAVE to have Leatherworking-Skill level 350.

Otherwise, the set IS viable for anyone's use. This was instrumental in giving me more armor and slightly better stats overall for my Feral Druid, even though my Feral Druid is NOT a Leatherworker.

Edited in later: On further reflection, this set is USELESS for Feral Druids. I equipped the whole set, taking off my Thick Draenic Armor set (Chest, Legs, Hands & Feet) and saw a DRAMATIC drop in DPS-AND resilience. My damage taken doubled, and my damage dealt was halved. The kicker Strength for having Leatherworking skill level of 350 may increase for another class...say, Rogues, but for Feral Druids, it hurts you more than it helps you.

Comentario de 71161

Just thinking. Notice how they have "fixed" this according to the new armor rules in 3.02 PTR, meaning much less armor but some extra dodge.

Just got thinking about the Defense rating though. In 3.02 we don't need extra defense as (atleast as i've understood it) we are crit immune from talents. So why does this set still give 74 defense rating?

Comentario de 160344

I'm a level 70 Rogue with level 375 Leatherworking who is spec'ed for PvE (no resilience, no defense) but still want to do a little bit of PvP to get some decent weapons. Would this be of use to wear into battlegrounds/arenas?

I don't mean *good*, I just mean something better than my Rogue PvE gear?

If not, what else can I craft (I'm also exalted with Aldorks) to wear for PvP?

Comentario de 196175

As an upcoming 70 feral druid (tank) I keept my eyes on this set... however it didn't look so attractive after the 3.0 patch but there is a reason that I only started to understand after this article...

Dude Where is my armor ? :
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/10/07/shifting-perspectives-dude-wheres-my-armor/

Comentario de 70576

This set is now quite obsolete for druid tanking at its level, unless you want to stuff it with Northrend stamina gems. That sort of stamina stacking isn't particularly needed for doing levelling instances such as Utgarde Keep, so you'd probably be better served with more balanced pieces of Northrend gear.

The old appeal of this set was in the huge amount of extra armor, which has been removed; and in the defense rating, which was helpful for druids because they were not fully uncrittable through talents.

Whatever you do, don't let anyone catch you tanking Naxxramas with this at level 80! (I have personally witnessed that)

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