Monster Levels Removed in Diablo 4 Season 6 and VoH

Diablo IV Posted 9 days ago by Garmanoth

Developer Update Livestream

Monster Levels

Monsters will no longer have their level displayed and will scale to the Difficulty you’re playing on.

Developer’s Note: We received feedback at launch about level scaling and feeling weak. By removing monster levels entirely and leaning into Difficulty, you now have the freedom to more precisely choose your challenge level.

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Comment by SnagprophetI think scaling has been the worst thing they added to their games.Comment by Clushfirst off how do you guys even come up with these &*!@ty systems that are universally hated and then you are told "we %^&*ing hate it" for years and then d4 of all places caves in first over world of warcraft?Comment by pascilI thought they scaled with the player from the start?Comment by shmohawkeah yes scaling, the lazy developers best friend. Balancing things by hand is too much work anywayComment by CarArmpitPOGGERSComment by LilWobbieI wrote a super big comment because I was so confused by this article. Scaling is very unbalanced in wow and my opinions are poisoned by that. However, after going and watching 20 minutes of the campside chat from the devs to understand their intention, and thinking about scaling in D4. This change is fine. Mobs still scale with our level which is only sometimes a problem very early during leveling when mobs catch up to our initial power. Other than that, we are almost always outgrowing the mobs around us due to skills and item synergy. and mobs will still technically have a hidden level we can't see. But the PRIMARY reason for this change is get rid of that awkward jump into WT3/4 which had minimum lvls on mobs (which wont be a problem anymore with the new flexible difficulty teirs), normalize/simplify difficulty for all content, and to allow us to scale up the open world for late game. Currently we outgrow the open world very quickly at level 100. Making helltides and whispers dead content basically. Now you can just throw it on torment 4 and to keep it relevant but now also super rewarding.

So this is a good change, it won't make scaling worse and d4 monster scaling is honestly really balanced. Could be MUCH MUCH worse like wow when going from level 1 to 80, monsters just get tougher and tougher endlessly.Comment by fathom81Bye bye getting boostedComment by ArtwolfI wrote a super big comment because I was so confused by this article. Scaling is very unbalanced in wow and my opinions are poisoned by that. However, after going and watching 20 minutes of the campside chat from the devs to understand their intention, and thinking about scaling in D4. This change is fine. Mobs still scale with our level which is only sometimes a problem very early during leveling when mobs catch up to our initial power. Other than that, we are almost always outgrowing the mobs around us due to skills and item synergy. and mobs will still technically have a hidden level we can't see. But the PRIMARY reason for this change is get rid of that awkward jump into WT3/4 which had minimum lvls on mobs (which wont be a problem anymore with the new flexible difficulty teirs), normalize/simplify difficulty for all content, and to allow us to scale up the open world for late game. Currently we outgrow the open world very quickly at level 100. Making helltides and whispers dead content basically. Now you can just throw it on torment 4 and to keep it relevant but now also super rewarding.

So this is a good change, it won't make scaling worse and d4 monster scaling is honestly really balanced. Could be MUCH MUCH worse like wow when going from level 1 to 80, monsters just get tougher and tougher endlessly.