Diablo 4 Season 8 PTR Campfire Chat Summary

Posted 2025/03/07 at 12:40 PM by PopularTopular

State of the Game

Mid-Season Balance

Class Balance changes will occur more often at the beginning of each Season, rather than as a part of the Mid-Season Patch.
Season 8 will likely see balance changes in the first few weeks.

Leveling

Progression was faster than expected in Season 7.
In Season 6, the average player took 15-17 hours to reach level 60.
By contrast, it only took players 9 hours on average to reach this level.
The team will adjust experience gain to be closer to be closer to the Season 6 pace.

Items

Rare and Magic items will be adjusted to be more beneficial for lower-level players.

Torment Progression

Torment Difficulty will be increased.

Season 8

Lair Bosses

The main focus of Season 8 will be revamping the Boss Ladder system.
This revamp will include new bosses, mechanics, and quality-of-life improvements.

Belial will be introduced as the new pinnacle boss.
Urivar and the Harbinger of Hatred will also be added to the boss ladder.

Lair Keys

Lair Bosses will now be free to summon, and will no longer require summing materials.
Instead, players will be able to create Lair Keys that can be used to unlock a boss' Hoard.
Initiate Lair Bosses will drop Stygian Stones, which can be used to craft the next tier boss' key.

Apparition Incusions

New open-world boss-rush event.

Seasonal Boss Powers

In Season 8, players will be able to collect and use up to 24 Boss Powers.

Class Changes

Character Class Changes

For all classes, Ultimate Scaling has been capped at 200% bonus damage.
Lucky Hit Crowd Control effects will be toned down.
New common terms will be introduced to describe Damage Over Time from additional damage types.

Barbarian

The team wants to make Barbarians have more physicality.

A new Legendary and Unique item will amplify the Mighty Throw ability.

Druid

Cataclysm snapshotting will be limited.
Stoneburst will be reworked to be able to Overpower.

A new Unique and Legendary Aspect will empower the Druid's Human Form.

Necromancer

Blood Wave will be nerfed.
Blood Lance will be buffed to deal more single-target damage.

The new Unique Item will allow Minions to be enhanced by Vampiric Curse.

Rogue

Season 8 will focus primarily on enhancing Traps.

A new Unique and Legendary Aspect will buff Poison Trap.

Sorcerer

Sorcerer builds will be buffed to be competitive with other Classes.

The latest items will focus on increasing the viability of Ice Shards.

Spiritborn

The team is working on making the Rushing Claws ability more viable.

The new items will focus on enhancing Rushing Claw and Storm Feathers.

Season 8 PTR

The Season 8 PTR will become available on Tuesday, March 11th.
Character boosts will not be available until a couple of days after the PTR has opened.

Q&A

There may be plans in the future to unlock Waypoints and Strongholds automatically in the future.
There are no plans to include the Frog from Season 7 as a permanent companion.
Lair Bosses will not have the same level of Resilience as World Bosses do.
There are no plans to remove under-used unique items.

Comment by MesohiCatering to the Twitch crowd again I see. Be prepared to lose a lot of players. Making level progression more difficult is a mistake. There is so much end game content, level progression should not be made more difficult. Making PIT 75 for T4 is a dumb idea. No wonder all of your devs left.Comment by SustainnaCampfire chat for season 8 summarized as: "No fun allowed for returning players before level 60"Comment by voreoWhy does leveling and progression need to be slower... ?Comment by KerathrasDid they seriously not even mention Sorcerers!Comment by LolusLooks like they don't want players back, oh well.Comment by ZeroxarThis is super boring tbh.

More time leveling with more "useless" loot... Who believes this is good and fun gameplay? It's the 8th tome for some people doing it. Repeatition is not fun, for most people.

The season power is witchcraft reskinned. The same mechanic two times in a row is bad even for you blizzard. Especially sine we lose it at the end of the season and only a few affixes come back which are mostly bloat.

New slots, Pet mechanic for every class, combos, deterministic crafting/upgrade, fuse gear, a real skilltree or modificator for skills....

There are so many possibilities and we get roughly the same seasonwindow for seasonal skills with new names and animations, a few affixes and a halfassed story, which 75% dont listen to.Comment by TOMRUSIdiots... I've played season 7 and stopped because it's way too hard and I wasn't even able to reach torment 4 this time in a reasonable time and they want to make it even slower and harder? Like WTF?

I haven't even finished season journey and battle pass in season 7 for a first time...

If these changes go live, i'm not playing season 8 at all...Comment by Ramzes911Because the progression during leveling is the only thing that slightly resembles "normal progression" and not D3 style of ridicule? Numbers should scale 1->2->5->8->10->20->30, not 1->2->10000->100 trillion..... And that's what happens in S7 within 6 hours. How the F is that fun? I have more enjoyment leveling classes than playing endgame, not because leveling is amazing, but because the current S7 state of ZUG ZUG BLAST RUSH NUKE BIG kills ANY fun, unless you're a 14-year-old teen that needs dopamine shots every 5 secs, otherwise gets bored in 2 min... Whoever says S7 progression was good - go see a psychologist, honestly...Comment by bluebird91More people than ever reached T4.

For the first time ever they added an exclusive limitied time flying pet only obtainable after completing the last chapter of Season Objectives which required T4.

Noo, those things can't possibly be related, the game must be made harder instead! We can't have players have fun and play for longer or be motivated to get rewards, this is clearly an issue that needs to be fixed so less players reach T4! Genius /sComment by ArtanisITAI came back to Diablo 4 this season, to play the expansion and try a bit of endgame since the last time (season 4) I basically only completed the campaign and stopped. I created a sorcerer and I had a blast until I unlocked Torment 3. Even though my resistances were capped, I was getting oneshotted left and right. I had nice gear, most important items mastercrafted etc, but I realized that in order to reach Torment 4 I probably would have to grind gear while having other players kill stuff while I try not to die for too many hours and gave up. I was looking forward to try again in Season 8 with another character, but if they are planning to ramp up the difficulty more I probably skip season 8.
It's a pity, really. I guess it would be easier if I used cookie cutters builds, but I hate chasing meta and I love making my own build with what I find fun rather than what is super efficient. Seems like S8 won't be for me. Hoping S9 will be.Comment by inafumeDid they ever consider more people were able to get to T4 in S7 than S6 because they weren't playing the story mode?