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Kommentar von 99096

whats the % from +healing this spell gets? without empowered healing talents.

Kommentar von karlusdavius

Again, not correct.

Flash heal vs Greater heal never comes down to raw numbers. it comes down to opportunity. You state that Discipline Priests should be using PW:S followed by greater Heal, without taking Penance, their 51 point talent, into consideration. Your views are based on the perfect scenario. This will never happen.

You keep mixing Discipline with Holy. Both are completely different in every way. Holy is a raid healer and will very rarely use Greater heal unless high, predictable incoming damage is present (patchwerk). You look at any guilds 25 man Parses from WWS and you will find that the main spells used are CoH, Flash Heal and PoM. Greater heal will be lowest.

Discipline is a Single target Healer. We should not raid heal as we do not have the skills or talents to do so. Main Tank healing is what we do. We Flash heal long enough to use Penance. Greater heal will not be used. even on patchwerk.

The debate of Flash Heal vs Greater Heal based on numbers
Greater Heal Wins

The debate of Flash Heal vs Greater Heal based on

Usefulness
Quickness of casting
HPS depending on deficit
Amount of procs turning (Flash heal into Instant casts).

Flash Heal Wins.

Kommentar von 226027

Flash Heal is the spell that a Discipline Priests should use between Penance.

This is because:

Divine Aegis and Rapture does not benefit from overhealing done.

The only benefit Greater Heal has to Discipline Priests is that the larger heal makes a larger shield. And as point 2 says, over healing does not make much of a benefit.

Kommentar von 479179

Cataclysm:

This is a Priests' fast, expensive heal. It has a short cast time, heals for a rather large amount, but the mana cost is very high. You should only use this if your target will die before you can land a Heal or Greater Heal spell.

Kommentar von Pythagoreant

This is priests' quick, expensive heal.

In Cataclysm (as of 4.0.3a), all healers have the following types of heals:

Quick, expensive heal: 1.5 second cast, very high mana cost, high heal value.
Inexpensive heal: 3 second cast (usually talented to 2.5), very low mana cost, low heal value.
Slow, big heal: 3 second cast (usually talented to 2.5), high mana cost, very high heal value.

The mana costs differ very slightly between classes. Two of them have the quick heal cost more than the big heal.

Priest
Quick - Blitzheilung
Cheap - Segenswort: Epiphanie
Big - Heilung

Shaman
Quick - Heilende Woge
Cheap -
Big - Welle der Heilung

Druid
Quick - Nachwachsen
Cheap - Pflege
Big -

Paladin
Quick - Lichtblitz
Cheap -
Big - Heiliges Licht

Kommentar von 319936

Priester PvP Healing 2P Bonus Heiliger Funke cause Prayer of Mending trigger Holy Spark on the initial target, increase healing received from the Priester's next Blitzheilung within 10 sec by 50%.
Item - Priest T14 Healer 2P Bonus reduce mana cost of Blitzheilung by 20%.

Blitzheilung's healing increased by 25% for Holy, Discipline Priester ().

Woge des Lichts give each Penance (Discipline only), Circle of Healing (Holy only), Prayer of Mending, Prayer of Healing, Blitzheilung, Binding Heal, Segenswort: Epiphanie, Heilung, Smite a 15% chance to trigger Woge des Lichts, make next Blitzheilung within 20 sec:

free
instant

limit 2 charges.

Heilige Worte can be considered as the resources for Holy Priester; one can have 2 stacks of Heilige Worte max.
it generate by (they all modified by Meisterschaft: Echo des Lichts):

Blitzheilung (+1)
Binding Heal (+1)

when Priester have stacks of Heilige Worte, these spells can be cast to consume all stacks of Heilige Worte (cast time & mana cost reduced by 20% for each stacks of Heilige Worte consumed):

enter cause Blitzheilung:

healing increased by 25%
refresh the duration of the Priester's Renew on the target.

for Discipline Priester, each Blitzheilung (modified by Mastery: Shield Discipline):

cause next Blitzheilung:

mana cost reduced by 25%
guaranteed to be critical

enter Geisthülle cause Blitzheilung no longer heal but instead create absorption shields that last 15 sec.

Item - Priest PvP Set Discipline/Holy 4P Bonus cause during Geisthülle, reduce mana costs of Blitzheilung by 50%.

Shadow Priester can cast Blitzheilung but can NOT cast without cancel Shadowform.

Kommentar von Reecow

Blitzheilung is a quick, quite expensive heal with a moderate healing output. In this post, you'll be able to see and compare a few priest spells' mana efficiency and time efficiency. In order to make these post relevant to priests of all Levels, Item Levels and with different amounts of Spell Power, Haste & Base Mana, I've decided to exclude Spell Power, Base Mana & Haste of my calculations. By doing this, you can't view any correct amounts in neither Healing Ouput, Mana Cost, Cast Time, Healing Per Mana nor Healing Per Second but you can however compare the different values between different spells.

Healing Output: 332.657% of Spell Power = 3.32657 *
Mana Cost: 4.1% of Base Mana = 0.041 *
Cast Time: 100-% of Base Cast Time = (1-) * 1.5 sec

Mana Efficiency = Healing Output / Mana Cost = 3.32657/0.041 ≈ 81.136 HPM (Healing per Mana)
Time Efficiency = Healing Output / Cast Time = 3.32657/1.5 ≈ 2.217 HPS (Healing per Second)

Below you can find the comparable values of some priest spells. Assumptions: Sühne is completely channeled and Gebet der Heilung heals 5 targets.

Categories	Heilung	Blitzheilung	Sühne	Gebet der Heilung
Healing Output	3.3264	3.32657	3.024	11.0832
Mana Cost	0.02	0.041	0.012	0.071
Base Cast Time	2.5	1.5	2.0 (Channeled)	2.5
HPM	166.320	81.136	252	156.101
HPS	1.331	2.217	1.512	4.433

EDIT : Updated posts for latest Beta Build and made post relevant to all Discipline Priesters by excluding certain variables.

Kommentar von dumaike4hire

It's worth noting, that for Discipline priests this spell is replaced by Shadowmend at level 28. I don't see that information anywhere in the wowhead interface and spent some time confused about where my Flash Heal was supposed to be.

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Blitzheilung

10% von Grundmana	40 Meter Reichweite

Wirken in 1.5 sek.

Ein schneller Zauber, der einen Verbündeten um (284.2% of Spell power) Gesundheit heilt.

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Heal (SP mod: 2.842)
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