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Kommentar von patabe

Looks like a crazy AoE damage spell for arcane mages in MoP. Admittedly arcane AoE is underwhelming so this would be a welcome addition to the arcane arsenal.

Kommentar von 137802

I do not personally raid or do dungeons, I usually go to lower level zones like Icecrown for dailies, and Netherorkan is great for pulling very large packs of mobs. I love going to that Vykrul area behind the Death Knight place and just spamming it all over the place. The packs of humanoids down below where the dragonhawks are for that one Alliance daily is really fun too. Great for farming cloth.

Kommentar von prophethead

Can someone provide more detail on this bomb?

I'm assuming it ticks over 12seconds, and not just one explosion at the end. If they are ticks, at what increments? Every 2 seconds?

Thanks.

Kommentar von Whackyo

This will break nearby enemies out of CC if they are close enough

Kommentar von fritobc

I couldn't and still cannot find this spell in my spellbook. Anyone know where it is?

EDIT: I am sooo dumb! I thought it was a core ability, but it turns out it is a talent at level 75.

Kommentar von Nizarus

This is the link to the "Missile" part of the spell.

Kommentar von 996787

Please confirm you can put this on more than two targets at the same time. I know I can do three on Living Bomb and I know I can do two of nether Tempest on two target at the same time, but like to know what is the most target you can put this on.

Kommentar von Ramdomize

Here's a friendly tip about this spell. It does interact with shatter, but not like most of our spells (because it's a dot). It will gain the bonus crit from shatter only if it is applied after a freeze effect (frost nova, deep freeze, water elemental's freeze). That is to say, it'll snapshot that shatter effect much like it would snapshot a haste or intellect buff on yourself.

Kommentar von Qoko

Of all three mage bombs, Nether Tempest seems the most versatile whilst levelling. This claim is of course arguable. If discussed together, the bombs cannot be distinguished by damage (to some extent, but only in the matter of hundreds at 75, and is probably insignificant to respec for). They can however by most other factors. In bold is whatever favors one bomb over the others for levelling.

Nether Tempest: instant cast, 12sec dot, 50% 'cleave', no cooldown, regular 1.5sec GCD, no target limit.
Living Bomb: instant cast, 11sec dot, 50% AoE on death, no cooldown, 1sec GCD, 3 target limit.
Frost Bomb: 1.5sec cast, 4sec explosion, no extra damage, 10sec cd, regular GCD, max damage-to-targets limit.

In questing, it's undisputed either of the dots is preferred because they are excellent for pulling compared to an unbuffed Ice Lance. The major differences between Nether and Living is the target limit for Living Bomb, and the longer GCD and cleave damage for Tempest. In a quickly dying group, Living Bomb should provide the top dps, but the triple target limit does not allow a mass pull of +4 targets, and in most areas this is very easy. Once the targets reach each other, the Arcane Blasts from target to target shred them apart and the pack dies simultaneously, lowering the potential of Living Bomb even more.

In dungeons, all three have some merit. If every pull allows one cast of Frost Bomb allowing you to contribute with one explosion on Shattered targets it is preferable over the dots. The discussion between the dots is similar as during questing, but Living Bomb can be considered slightly better because Tempesting +4 targets in a thrash pack is probably redundant as they die shortly thereafter.

As you level higher and get more spellpower, Living Bomb might surpass Tempest on damage more significantly.

Summary:

Questing: Nether Tempest >> Living Bomb >>>> Frost Bomb.
Dungeons: Living Bomb > Frost Bomb > Nether Tempest.

Bomb of choice overall: Nether Tempest. If you fancy, you can respec to Living Bomb when you enter a dungeon if you don't mind the spend the few silver.

Kommentar von rappydoo21

At WoD Beta:

Is it me or is Nether Tempest hitting the main target twice? When it ticks, it triggers the AoE 'missile' which then hits the one w/ NT on. I wonder if this is intended.
Well, I ain't complainin'. Still one of the coolest-looking spells imo!

Kommentar von schnizol

I'm wondering if the fact it ticks every second (while living bombs ticks slower), it increases the chance of getting a brain freeze effect.

Kommentar von Gadoink4

Can only be placed on a single target now. Massive nerf. :(

Kommentar von imri500

There is a valid argument for this over Supernova.
*Gets shot*

No! No! I'm serious. There are REASONS to use this.
Yes, it breaks CC. Yes, it doesn't have burst, yes, if you calculate the MAXIMUM optimal damage (Which is only achievable if the target does not move for the entire duration, and the random area of effect hits all nearby enemies all the time and the target itself) then even then, Supernova does roughly twice the damage, yes Supernova is an interrupt, yes supernova is actually two interrupts.... Yes, you have to cast 4 arcane blasts before casting this. By all means and from all aspects, this spell is abyssmal.

-HOWEVER-

In PvE, there is argument for using this. First of all, Supernova has a 25 sec recharge time, while this has a 12 second duration. That means that in the time frame where you hit your target with 1 supernova, you can hit it with two whole Nether tempests. This will actually result, in, under the MAXIMUM damage conditions, significantly more dmg than Supernova.

*Disclaimer* : Don't ever ever use this in PVP. I could literally be here listing disadvantages for the next week or so.

Kommentar von Rhacius

Does the damage update or snapshot depending on how many charges you have when you cast it?

Kommentar von poisonousfrog

The WeakAuras in the quick-facts does not seem to work for me in 7.0 so I modified it slightly:

http://pastebin.com/T0uytt1i

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Netherorkan

Netherorkan

Talent

1.5% von Grundmana	40 Meter Reichweite

Sofort

Belegt das Ziel mit einem Netherorkan, der im Verlauf von 12 sec dem Ziel und Gegnern innerhalb von 10 Metern (22.5636% of Spell power) Arkanschaden zufügt. Es kann nur jeweils 1 Ziel betroffen sein. Fügt Sekundärzielen weniger Schaden zu.

Der Schaden wird pro Arkaner Aufladung um 60% erhöht.

Stärkungszauber

Netherorkan	Magie

Verursacht (1.8803% of Spell power) Arkanschaden und fügt außerdem allen Gegnern innerhalb von 8 Metern alle 1 Sek. (1.8803% of Spell power) Arkanschaden zu.
Noch 12 sekunden

Zauberdetails

Dauer

12 sekunden

Magieart

Arkan

Mechanik

n/a

Bannart

Magie

GCD-Kategorie

Normal

Kosten

1.5% von Grundmana

Reichweite

40 Meter (Lang)

Zauberzeit

Sofort

Abklingzeit

n/a

GCD

1.5 sekunden

Maximale Ziele

1 - Vorgabe

Effekt #1

Apply Aura: [Periodic Damage]
Intervall: 1 sekunde (SP mod: 0.018803)
PVP-Multiplikator: 2.5

Effekt #2

Apply Aura: [Dummy]
Wert: 10
PVP-Multiplikator: 1
Serverseitiges Skript

Flags

Kann nicht verwendet werden, während Ihr gestaltverwandelt seid
Aura ist Debuff
Die Aura wirkt nur auf ein Ziel
Zaubertempo betrifft periodisch
Tappt sofort
Periodisch kann kritisch treffen
Aura zeigt auf Clienten
Ermögliche Procs von Klassenfähigkeiten
Zeige persönliche Buffs/Debuffs an Namensplaketten
Periodisch erneuert Dauerverlängerung

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