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Kommentar von Saschalein

Die Quest ist ein Schritt zum Erhalt des Legendary-Umhangs. Ein ziemlich langer Schritt,
denn die Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches haben eine miserable Dropchance. Sie werden von den Bossen im Der Thron des Donners gedroppt, allerdings nur einmal pro Boss pro Woche (ID), egal ob LFR, NHC oder HC. Es macht also keinen Sinn, nachdem man NHC alles clear hat, nur wegen der Teile noch einmal LFR oder HC zu gehen.

Patch 5.4 Änderung:
Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches werden jetzt auch von den ersten acht Bossen in der Schlacht um Orgrimmar gedroppt, Lootchance genauso wie vorher, einmal pro Boss pro Woche, egal in welcher Schlachtzugart.

Kommentar von Ceece

5.0

Fremd in einem fremden Land
Eine Legende im Werden
Die Stärke Eures Gegners
Prüfung des Schwarzen Prinzen
Die Furcht selbst
Atem des Schwarzen Prinzen
Unheil im Verzug

5.1

Was den Anführer ausmacht
Tapferkeitsbeweis
Prinzliches Anliegen
Ruhm der Horde oder Der Löwe brüllt
Führungswechsel
Die Seele der Horde oder Der Ruf des Rudelführers
Der Donnerkönig

5.2

Trefft mich oben
Geheimnisse des ersten Kaiserreiches
Ich brauche einen Champion
Die Donnerschmiede
Geist des Sturmfürsten
Die Krone des Himmels
Echos der Titanen
Herz des Donnerkönigs
Eine Abrechnung

5.3

Segen der Erhabenen
Umhang der Tugend
Angriffsvorbereitung

5.4

Eine zeitlose Entdeckung
Geheimnisse der Zeitlosen Insel
Der Weg des Kaisers
Eine Legende Pandarias
Urteil des Schwarzen Prinzen

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Kommentar von droodhaxzomg

EDIT: So almost immediately after the patch came out I quit for 9 months, and now this post is very outdated. Wowhead has a guide (viewable here) that far outclasses my comment. If you are looking for relevant information regarding the legendary questline, you will find it there.

If you did the 5.0 questline with Wrathion, prepare to see something familiar.

First, Wrathion asks you to talk to him... Upstairs. Presumably after yammering on about the fate of Azeroth blah blah, he directs you to the first real meat of the questline: killing things!
Here, you have to reach Exalted with The Black (artist currently known as) Prince for I Need A Champion (tenuous Footloose jokes optional) by killing hostile mobs on the Isle of Thunder.
Alongside this quest, you get Secrets of the First Empire wherein you have to collect Secrets of the Empire in the Throne of Thunder.
Are we good? Good. Now comes the next part, which depends on how the 5.2 content is gated. Eventually, an area called the Lightning Forge will be unlocked for a quest called The Lightning Forge. Wrathion tells you to meet him at this area and suggests being ready for a fight, so my guess is stuff goes down (this isn't available just yet!) and you have to fight and kill some guys. You've handled the last 14 raid tiers, I'm sure this is no threat.

The rest... isn't really mapped out yet. The quests have been datamined and are in Wowhead, but it's just guesswork as to what goes where. There is a quest to kill guys and collect Titan Runestones for the quest Echoes of the Titans, which reminds me of another legendary quest altogether. (They use the same icon!)

Additionally, you have to kill the Thunder King (call him Bill) for Heart of the Thunder King. That part is speculation, but perhaps you can see why I think that. Spirit of the Storm Lord and A Reckoning aren't developed yet, so who knows where they go?

The Crown of Heaven is the last quest, which rewards a ~~helm enchant~~ legendary META GEM which benefits your class less than any other class, and you should probably ask Blizzard for some buffs. Again, I could be wrong, but then I'd be out a shoe and up a meal.

The long and short of this is that you should probably start farming Trillium (or Ghost Iron for the transmute) now, because when the patch hits? Oh boy.

~~This post will be updated as information is added.~~

Kommentar von svann

It might be 20 trillium bars not 40. When he is offering the quest it says 40 but when it gets in your log it says 20.

Kommentar von Eillesthis

Previous: Der Donnerkönig
Parallel to: Ich brauche einen Champion
Next: Die Donnerschmiede

Trefft mich oben may be an alternate breadcrumb, but I completed Der Ruf des Rudelführers before 5.2 and I never saw it.

Kommentar von 696607

Since it's not clear from the quest text:

Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches drop from bosses in Der Thron des Donners.
If dropped in normal or heroic mode, ~~everyone on the quest can loot a copy.~~ the item will have a chance to automatically go to players on the quest (eg. not master-looted).
In LFR each player has an individual chance to loot one.

Kommentar von 784734

tell Kerkermeister Vishas about this quest :D

Kommentar von saganth

1 Spirit of Harmony = 5 White Trillium Ore or 5 Black Trillium ore
2 White Trillium Ore + 2 Black Trillium ore = 1 Trillium Bar
Therefore 2 Spirit of Harmony = 2.5 Trillium Bar , and 4 Spirit of Harmony = 5 Trillium Bar
40 Trillium Bar / 5 = 8
8 * 4 = 32 Spirit of Harmony

1 Farm, at 16 available plots, can produce 1.6 Spirit of Harmony per day. 32 / 1.6 = 20 days of farming nothing but Songbell Seeds to get 40 Trillium Bar , provided you have someone who can smelt them for you.

Kommentar von 121744

Will these drop if you have already done the raid for that week? Or are they like gear used to be where you could only get it on the first time trough each week?

Kommentar von staramor

Miners employment act !

Mining 800 ore takes about two hours circling around the Valley of Four Winds northern hillsides(don't forget the lower foothills below and to the west of the daily kill quest mobs up top.. and don't forget the tower near the crops and the dike walls closer to Half-hill)

Fill two bags full of raw ore.. let your blacksmith make 400 bars as you take your dog for a walk afk, send the 400 bars to your alchemist(or your gulid mates) and have them transmute the stack... as a transmute master you'll probably end up with close to 48, not 40 bars

For those of us that kind of like mining.. and/or those that like to get things done as they play games.. like calling people you owe calls to (mom, brothers, friends?) .. .blab away as you mine.. complete your quest.. feel wealthy, and feel happy about being social in RL : )

For the trillium collection part of the quest, the approach of |Mine a huge stack of ghost iron| - |make 400 ghost iron bars| - | transmute the whole stack to trillium| is a simple and not very attention demanding.

Certainly the Quest PUTS Miners to work! even if they'r just putting bars on the AH to buy for those that prefer other gold making grinds.

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(Obviously on a high pop server you're better off at 3 AM west coast time... : ) -- but without a CRZ and with the very fast node spawns .. you're bound to find a time that works for your server)q

Kommentar von bwanadik

This may be a stupid question, but since it not explicitly clear do you have to fabricate the trillium yourself? Meaning you need to have either Mining or Alchemy as professions? While these are both honorable trades my first alt to get this quest already has two other profs max'd. I know you can grow the trillium/ghost iron ore but you still need mining or alchemy to turn it into trillium bars. Those of you that have max'd profs know that there is a substantial investment of time and/or gold involved in accomplishing this. Do I now have to give one of these up and level either mining or alchemy to complete this quest? Or can I acquire the trillium from an alt or the AH?

Kommentar von 169025

I planned my black prince quests out, and here is my experience.

I was on my 3rd week of Test of Valor, did all the other raids and dungeons, except ToT for my valor points, but I was still a bit short on valor points to complete the quest.
I read that Lei Shen has a 100% chance of dropping the Secrets of the Empire, so I went to do Pinnacle of Storms part of ToT to gather the last of my valors.

After that was completed, I went and did the the battlegrounds quests etc, up until Secrets of the Empire.

Went in last wing of ToT again, nothing dropped, not even Lei Shen.

I guess if you're planning out your black prince quests like me, do not kill any bosses in ToT on the week that you think you will receive the Secrets of the Empire quest to maximize your chances.

Kommentar von gr33nzo

I've been keeping track on my alt, ended up taking me 5 weeks in total to get the raid drops for this quest:

Week 1: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 6
Week 2: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 3
Week 3: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 5
Week 4: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 5
Week 5: bosses killed: 2, Secrets of the Empire: 1

Kommentar von hims71

for the past two days i did lfr tot and i got no Secrets of the Empire whats so ever...has anybody have the same problem?

Kommentar von 292372

New Comment (7/12/14): Having now completed legendary cloaks on 5 toons, I can say with certainty that Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches drop in all of ToT and from the first eight bosses of SoO. Lei Shen in Der Thron des Donners and Sha des Stolzes in Schlacht um Orgrimmar are guaranteed to drop Runenstein der Titanen or Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches. (They are NOT guaranteed to drop Siegel der Weisheit and Siegel der Macht according to a GM after a guildee ticketed because he didn't receive one from Sha des Stolzes.)

Runenstein der Titanen drops from the last 2 wings of ToT and the first two wings of SoO, again, Lei Shen in Der Thron des Donners and Sha des Stolzes in Schlacht um Orgrimmar are guaranteed to drop.

Also, if you complete your Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches and have already looted Lei Shen, you CAN kill him again (LFR only as far as I know) to loot Herz des Donnerkönigs for the next quest.

Old Comment: I can't seem to find any patch notes about where the Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches are dropping now, so I thought I would post to say I got drops from the LFR ToT1, LFR ToT3, LFR ToT4, and from the new LFRs this week. Hopefully this helps other stragglers like myself in where they can get them.

Kommentar von Zizzerzoop

Do we just do Random LFRs? ...and forgive me, what does TOT1, TOT2 translate to? Please be kind to us older folks with your responses! Thanks guys.

Kommentar von kurjam

I'd say at this point in the expansion, if you are like me and can't wait (and also, I got last secret from ToT first wing so all the next collectible drops we're still free), Trillium goes for about 40-60g per bar on most of servers.

And one fun fact, you can still keep receiving secrets after you've collected 20 of them, who ever wishes to keep one for some weird nostalgic memory or whatnot.

Good luck

Kommentar von kabookiejoe

The first eight bosses in Siege of Orgrimmar have a chance to drop a Sigil of Power, Sigil of Wisdom, Secrets of the Empire, or Titan Runestone in addition to their normal loot for players on the appropriate step in the legendary questline.

Kommentar von Afzal

Surprised to see that someone has yet to post the fact that this is an obvious star wars reference I am. Hmmmmmm. I mean.. The quest. - Yoda

Kommentar von cojjan89

I've been keeping track on my Main, and im still working to get the raid drops for this quest:
week 1: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 1
week 2: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 3: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 4: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 5: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 6: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 7: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 8: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 9: Bosses killed 12 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 10: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 1
week 11: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 2
week 12: Bosses killed 11 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 13: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 4
week 14: Bosses killed 5 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 15: Bosses killed 9 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 16: Bosses killed 15 , Secrets of the empire 0
week 17: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 3
week 18: Bosses killed 20 , Secrets of the empire 1

And now neew week , bosses killed so far 20 Secrets of the empire 0

i have even contacted a Game master in-game about my issue, and they just told me
"you have been very unlucky just, there is no bug or anything its just about luck"

Kommentar von 1263746

Got this quest on my Twink today, and with the "Gaze of the Black Prince"-Buff, I got 14 secrets out of the 20 bosses that can drop them, which is either random luck or a vast improvement of the droprate.

Kommentar von vejer

Secrets of The Empire...Extensive search for name of the raid or raids to get started on finding the 20 drops. Finished the Trillium bars, know where location is but, what is the name of the raid?

Kommentar von Archaix

When you return the quest, Wrathion and Anduin are still playing the board game, and say:

Wrathion: Why did you make that move?
Anduin: It's a Pandaren board game. The object is for both players to win
Wrathion: That's ridiculous! Why would you even play?

Subtle, Blizzard. If you spell "subtly" like this

Kommentar von Rascal32

In order to get the legendary cape, you MUST have this quest finished by next week.

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Geheimnisse des ersten Kaiserreiches

Diese Quest ist nicht mehr im Spiel verfügbar.

Sammelt 20 Geheimnisse des Kaiserreichs und 40 Trilliumbarren.

	Geheimnisse des Kaiserreiches (20)
	Trilliumbarren (40)

Beschreibung

Zweitausend Jahre lang haben die Mogu dieses ganze Land beherrscht. Ihr Regime war so brutal, dass sein Name nie laut ausgesprochen wird: Die Pandaren nennen es entweder das "alte Königreich" oder "Erste Dynastie".

Der Donnerkönig war sein Begründer und erster Kaiser. Er sammelte große Macht an dem Ort, der nun die Insel des Donners ist.

Seine Zeit ist vorbei, <Name>. Wir sollten etwas von seiner Macht für uns selbst beanspruchen. Tragt für mich Mogurelikte vom Thron des Donners zusammen und sammelt etwas Trillium – ich habe einen Plan!

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Ihr bekommt:

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Bei Abschluss dieser Quest erhaltet Ihr:

250 Ruf mit der Fraktion Der Schwarze Prinz

Wenn du Folgendes im Spiel eingibst, kannst du überprüfen, ob du das schon abgeschlossen hast:

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(32591))

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