The noob culture, and the playing of WoW

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ahh arcades :) I sucked at em for the most part but I hung out with guys that were pretty decent...lol funded one of them just because he was a buddy but man how much is $2-$5 per school day for 4 years of high school? I need to track him down... Good times ^^

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Going back to the Super Mario example, the game sold tens of millions of copies and is universally recognized as a classic in a way World of Warcraft never will be, and the fact that the game was way too hard for a supermajority of the players who bought and played it to beat start-to-finish has never been seen as a problem or design flaw.

TMNT IV, the extremely popular arcade game, got increasingly difficult towards the later stages, and even when it was available on console, and thus having an endless supply of quarters was no obstacle, very few players ever saw much less beat Shredder on the Statue of Liberty. Again, this was not seen as a flaw.Aestu, just because you never beat it, does not follow that 'a majority' of players never beat it.

Edit: Now, the original NES Turtle game....where even with Game Genie on, the computer would still destroy you, I'll admit that game never made sense how it sold as much as it did; never did get farther then the fourth stage in that game.

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Aestu, just because you never beat it, does not follow that 'a majority' of players never beat it.

I won't pursue the red herring. I will say that my arthritic grandmother bought the Power Set (no, really) and enjoyed playing it. That she, like most people who played it, could never beat it or nearly wasn't seen as a flaw. And by the same token in early WoW it was much more common that flatly bad players would engage in marginally competitive activities and it was not seen as a problem that they could not see all endgame..Again, proof would be nice.(Oh, I know you'll never give any but still, we can hope)

Now, the original NES Turtle game....where even with Game Genie on, the computer would still destroy you, I'll admit that game never made sense how it sold as much as it did; never did get farther then the fourth stage in that game.

It does make sense. The reasons do not make sense to you because they cannot be reconciled with the faulty assumption you are making.

So the fact that the game took Nintendo Hard, multiplied it by 1000 and more or less laughed at you as you tried desperately to keep all four Turtles alive, find those 3 places where you could recover the lost Turtle, and hopefully get to the end? I recently went back to try it again....and it still kicked my ass. Beyond popularity of the Turtles back when the NES first came out, I don't really understand how it kept selling as well as it did.

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It's funny that Aestu still hasn't answered the majority of responses from the first couple pages.

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Aestu, have you ever played the original TMNT game on the NES? If not....well, you can't really comment on it can you? And I've honestly never heard anyone say they did not beat any of the original Mario games, or that they found them 'hard', challenging sure, but beyond that, not unbeatable. So yes, this is your own personal view on the game, which is ironic as you just attacked the Nintendo hard page.

Yes, I have.

It's not my claim that classic games were unbeatable, merely that most players didn't beat them. This rule of thumb - most players who buy any given game never beat it - continues to hold true to the present day. And it is not a problem.

Not an argument when it's true, or did you never read Nintendo Power when you were a young little sprout? Thousands wrote in every week telling how they beat the games.

So are you saying that most players who bought the game beat it? Yes or no?

Yes; everyone I know that purchased Mario Bros 3 beat it, up to and including their parents who played the game as well. So, from my own view(which is the same view you are using) yes, people beat the games they purchase. Again, though, you are arguing apples to oranges, and your topic, as usual, goes no where beyond making something for us to mock.

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This rule of thumb - most players who buy any given game never beat it - continues to hold true to the present day.
PW or PvP online games don't get beat. You're comparing apples and oranges. If you want to make a valid comparison, compare something like Dead Space to SMB3, not WoW.....or SC2K
You made two comparisons in your OP: SMB3 to WoW, and SC2K to WoW. Don't bring the other one in when I'm specifically addressing the first.

And to address your edit:

Who said anything about PvP?
WoW is in part a PvP game.

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Since you are clearly not interested in engaging the issues I raised in the OP, I will not enable your attempts to dissemble productive discussion.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.....

At least he know better than to actually try to defend himself against me.

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