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New Cataclysm Presences discussion
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Beitrag von
fireproof52
So as of the latest build I noticed that the presences have been updated to better correspond to the talent trees. What are your opinions of these new presences?
Blood Presence
- The death knight takes on the presence of Blood, increasing Stamina by 8%, armor contribution from cloth, leather, mail and plate items by 60%, and reducing damage taken by 8%. Increases threat generated. Only one Presence may be active at a time.
-With
Improved Blood Presence
you retain +2/4% damage reduction in other presences, and you gain -3/6% chance to be crit while in blood presence.
Frost Presence
- Strengthens the Death Knight with the presence of Frost, increasing damage by 10% and increasing Runic Power generation by 10%.
-With
Improved Frost Presence
you retain +2/4% runic power generation in other presences, and gain +2/5% damage while in frost presence.
Unholy Presence
- Infuses the death knight with unholy fury, increasing attack speed and rune regeneration by 10%, movement speed by 15%. Only one Presence may be active at a time.
-With
Improved Unholy Presence
you retain +8/15% movement speed in other presences, and gain +2/5% haste while in unholy presence.
I'm happy to see they changed frost and blood up, got tired of seeing noob Death Knights who were using frost presence to DPS because they were frost spec'd -_-. I think unholy could have been changed more, but it's pretty decent still.
Beitrag von
suplup
I am sad to see the reduced GCD go, but then people wont yell at me for being in UH presence when i have it improved (reduces rune CD) yes i know the runes still dont recharge fast enough, but 1.5s GCD is too slow for me
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fireproof52
I think the new unholy presence fits unholy more, with the 5% haste and the built in rune regen increase. The GCD reduction was nice in heroics, but it didn't see much use in raids when an 8% damage boost was a no brainer when you had time to unload multiple rotations without interruption.
I still think that even for unholies that frost presence is going to trump unholy presence in raids, due to the flat damage increase. Maybe in future builds unholy will be built where haste>damage, but that doesn't seem likely.
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fireproof52
Edit: I just looked at the warrior and paladin talent trees. Paladins get it with Sanctuary and Warriors get it with Bastion of Defense, I get what your saying about them getting it with some other ability as well. I think the reason they didn't do this with Death Knights is because 1. We don't really have a proc-type thing like paladins and warriors already, so why would they add one just so we can be the same as the other classes and 2. If they added something like that, people would whine that imp. frost pres/unholy pres dont give other benefits as well.
On a side note, how many tanks do you think we'll see when cata first hits that haven't spec'd into IBP/Sanctuary/BoD?
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icritmypants
I doubt that since frost uses blood right now, and they need more rp gen in cata due to rune changes. Also, frost can no longer get at necrosis so haste has lost some value.
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