My Kids are beating the crap out of my DK...advice needed.

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ok i'm gonna try that rotation and tree tomorrow, and YES the comment was for pvp, for pve i manage with death pact once in a while, i do like the use of it tho since my fighting skills need a hell of a lot of polishing ( when i get them hehe)

what about the speed boost from improved unholy presence? i kind of like the idea of the speed factor on the cool downs while in frost presence for the armor.

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Well the hastened rune recovery will only affect you when you're in UH pres, you only get to retain the 15% increase to movement speed when you're in blood/frost presence.

Improved Unholy Presence is a great thing for pvp, even if you're not using Unholy presence itself (since one of our weaknesses in pvp is that we get kited easily)

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hmm so you mean that the IUP does NOT affect the cool down when in an other presence? just the speed?

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Correct. IUP gives runes a 9 sec CD instead of 10 sec in U Pres, and you keep the 15% speed boost of U Pres in your other presences.

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ok and is this second worth the points? 'cause in a long fight you come up to an off set of at least ten secs in the cool down, kind of appeals to my need for speed

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hmmm ok i guess that something i'll have to deal with much later then, thanks
you guys are being a great help :)

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For a different style of pvp spec you may want to check out my seconday spec, armory link is in the sig. Frost PvP is pretty fun, lots of burst damage and some nice CC with Glyph of Hungering Cold and the Frost talents Endless Winter and Chilblains. Chains of Ice can be easily dispelled, but the slow from Chilblains is un-dispellable. A lot of the damage is Frost damage, which is not mitigated by armor. With IT, HB, and two FS, you could easily rip through casters. For some more caster play-time, freezing them with Hungering Cold allows your runes to come off CD, while they can't do anything.

When going up against your Warlock son, you may want to use Strangulate and Mind Freeze, then burn through him. Another plus of the Frost tree is Lichborne. You have 15 secs to not worry about him fear + dotting you. And against a caster, that's plenty of kill time.

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After much tough, i decided to really try your spec @lynri, from what I have been reading Ice is a must for survivability in Pvp, and even if i'm not Pvp minded, the fact that every time that a Horde player sneaks up on me and i end up dead, is not really much to my liking, but also stands to reason since my fighting skills ( or lack of) seem to point out the fact that i have to concentrate on defense in order to start attacking more efficiently ( hehe it sounds easy in words)
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I'll try it out this afternoon and tell you how it "feels"

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My Kids are beating the crap out of my DK...advice needed.

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