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Does the Internet Create Lynch Mobs?
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Adamsm
Again, take any Bible related discussion to the appropriate thread; don't fall for the trap here to derail something.
Reading comprehension, I specifically said they deserved to be beaten up, nothing more. Adult beating on a kid....yeah that's gonna teach them a lot.
Not remotely comparable to going on a bus and verbally and physically abusing an old lady, I find it offensive that you think the two scenarios are anywhere close to similar.
Completely comparable: How is being up someone for insulting your parents different from beating up someone who insulted the bus driver?
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asakawa
@Soldrethar, Two quotes isn't a discussion. You should respect the people you're talking with enough that, if you feel they haven't understood the point you were trying to make, you try to explain better what you were thinking.
I think what you're proposing the children in question deserve is immoral. If I was on the bus and someone tried to mete out the punishment you've deemed right I would try to stop them. (of course this is a weird hypothetical where I was in a position to stop the beating but didn't stop the verbal abuse by the children).
Morality is FAR more than a gut feeling. There are things that I have thought a lot about and still don't have a solid answer for. "Gut feeling morality" gets people into some terrible positions and liberally handing out physical punishments to minors is never okay.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##
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588688
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Ksero
Reading comprehension, I specifically said they deserved to be beaten up, nothing more.
No, you said
I fail to see anything morally wrong about beating up a bunch of jerkwads who would treat an old lady like that, they deserve to be beaten up for it, not killed, not beaten to within an inch of their life, just beaten up, subjected to a degree physical pain.
I took exception that you see nothing morally wrong with beating up kids.
Say someone is insulting my parents, i beat the crap out of them, they charge me with assault, my defense is that they were insulting my parents, how do you think that's gonna stand up.
Not remotely comparable to going on a bus and verbally and physically abusing an old lady, I find it offensive that you think the two scenarios are anywhere close to similar.
Fine, Some kids are yelling at and poking old lady on bus, I punch the kid in the face, his parents charge me with assault, my defense is he was insulting and pokingthe old lady, how does that stand up.
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MyTie
This thread is a mess. Imma go have a nap.
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588688
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Adamsm
No, he's comparing someone insulting his parents to what those kids did to that poor woman.What is the different? I mean really: Someone insults your family member, you aren't suppose to want to beat them up? Why does this one bus driver get different treatment? It makes no sense at all.
Fine, Some kids are yelling at and poking old lady on bus, I punch the kid in the face, his parents charge me with assault, my defense is he was insulting and pokingthe old lady, how does that stand up.
What does the legal system have to do with the morals of this scenario?
...Everything. Seriously, if you are going to try to debate, read what is being said: This entire time Ksero has been asking is why is it 'okay' to beat these kids? And why shouldn't the parents of the little monsters press charges against the person who attacked their children? After all, the kids have just as much right to being protected as anyone else does, no matter how vicious they were to the bus driver.
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Ksero
Fine, Some kids are yelling at and poking old lady on bus, I punch the kid in the face, his parents charge me with assault, my defense is he was insulting and pokingthe old lady, how does that stand up.
What does the legal system have to do with the morals of this scenario?
Legal system is based off of morals, hence why stealing, murder, those kinds of things are illegal. If someone is morally justified in what they did they can be acquitted from such crimes, or have their sentences lessened.
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Perkocet
Now we know who the child abusers are on Wowhead.
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588688
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Adamsm
but the laws don't define right and wrong.Lol wut? Really, you are going to go there?
You still aren't getting it. I mean he's comparing the level of moral depravity in insulting one of his parents to 3 kids getting on a bus to verbally and physically abuse of of an old lady.No, you aren't getting it; insulting someone's parent is just as bad as verbally abusing a bus driver, or at least it should be to a 'morally righteous person' since both things are causing pain to those who hear it.
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588688
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Ksero
How does saying "That person deserves to be beaten" not mean "That person should be beaten"
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588688
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Adamsm
eeyup.And you really wonder why no agree with your stance on morals....
No, it's not, like, at all. There's calling someone a mean word and then there's antagonizing them. I find it hard to believe you're incapable of differentiating the two.
No, it is like that, since to me, the moral 'high road' shouldn't be insulting anyone; be it a family member, a random stranger, or even someone you hate. All those things equal the same thing to me.
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Ksero
ok, so now i ask, why do they deserve to be beaten, what part of them doing what they did to that old lady make it so that it is morally right to beat the children.
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588688
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OverZealous
Now we know who the child abusers are on Wowhead.
I see where you're coming from, but no.
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Adamsm
Because you and and the usual gang in these arguments refuse to see outside your own viewpoints.I'm sorry, but if you say that the laws are not meant to tell the difference between right or wrong, there really is no logical response to that.
Ok, there's passing by someone's house and yelling at his parents "lol you guys are gay" and then there's 3 kids ganging up on an old lady and abusing her both physically and verbally for the sake of antagonizing her. I truly fail to see how these two scenarios are equally bad. I really don't think you're empathizing with the old lady as much as you should be, or else you wouldn't be trivializing what she went through to the point where one insult is comparable to physical and verbal harassment.Who said it was one insult? For all we know in that hypothetical, a group of kids(just like with the bus driver) have been tormenting another with those types of comments. So yes Sold, I can see how the two can be similar.
The fact that they did it is what makes them deserving of it.
Then rather then be beaten up by random strangers, it should be the family of the little monsters who give out the punishment.
Also: No matter how vicious these brats were, no one deserves death threats and being told they are going to be killed by strangers they've never even met.
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588688
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