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Kommentar von Grokironhide

the thought of having to farm all the battle for azeroth raid mats again doesn't feel great. How that crap isn't BOE yet I don't know.

Also the TBC alchemist stones would require making the alchemist stone 4 times to upgrade it to the 4 other ones.

Kommentar von Turtlebacon

Total Material List:

6 Primal Life
6 Primal Fire
6 Primal Air
6 Primal Shadow
8 Nether Vortex
16 Iron Bar
4 Black Vitriol
16 Purple Lotus
16 Firebloom
4 Earthstorm Diamond
4 Skyfire Diamond
8 Fel Lotus
20 Primal Might
20 Goldclover
2 Eternal Life
3 Frost Lotus
20 Deadnettle
12 Pygmy Oil
15 Adder's Tongue
15 Tiger Lily
200 Volatile Life
56 Cinderbloom
32 Azshara's Veil
56 Heartblossom
3 Golden Lotus
5 Alchemical Catalyst
1 True Iron Ore
1 Infernal Brimstone
5 Felwort
3 Blood of Sargeras
75 Astral Glory
5 Primal Sargerite
20 Sea Stalk
20 Star Moss
227 Expulsom (fewer will be needed, as scrapping items made with Expulsom returns a significant amount, usually 5 or 10 less than it cost. It might take as few as ~150 but i don't want to spend my Expulsom testing)
315 Anchor Weed
375 Akunda's Bite
375 Winter's Kiss
15 Hydrocore (Scrapping returns 100% of these materials so none is wasted on the earlier crafts)
250 Sanguicell (Scrapping returns 100% of these materials so none is wasted on the earlier crafts)
15 Tidalcore (Scrapping returns 100% of these materials but they shouldnt be re-used)
200 Breath of Bwonsamdi (Scrapping returns 100% of these materials so none is wasted on the earlier crafts)
550 Zin'anthid

Having rank 2 or 3 in these recipes can reduce costs considerable for Legion/BFA. Rank 3 is generally just for multicraft, but rank 2 will reduce cost.

Reps:
Sha'tar Revered
Shattered Sun Offensive Exalted

Dungeon/Raid-related grinds:
Tidalcores come from running Heroic/Mythic BFA dungeons.
Sanguicells drop from bosses in Uldir at 1/5/10/20 rates for LFR/Norm/Heroic/Mythic
Breath of Bwonsamdi drop from bosses in Dazaralor at 1/5/10/20 rates for LFR/Norm/Heroic/Mythic
Eternal Palace profession quest to collect 20 followed by 200 more Eternal Ornaments. Heroic Bosses drop 10, Mythic drop 20
Ny'alotha profession quest (Void Focus Upgrades) to collect 20 followed by 200 more Shred of Insanity. Heroic Bosses drop 10, Mythic drop 20

Expulsom is annoying to grind. I recommend making/finding a tailor to craft a lot of Tidespray Linen Bracers. Mail these to your Alchemist and break them down in the scrapper. About 1/6 will give expulsom, and with the cloth returned from scrapping, Expulsom will "cost" roughly 5x the cost of Tidespray Linen Bracers. You will probably end up scrapping something in the range of 1000 tidespray bracers to get all the Expulsom required.

Kommentar von Buuloki

This achievement requires you to CRAFT the following Philosopher's Stones. You will need to know all patterns, have relevant skill levels and craft at least one of every item listed.

Obtaining the Recipes

Pattern	Requirement	How To Get
Rezept: Stein der Weisen	Requires Classic Alchemy (50)	Purchased from Alchemist Stößelbruch / Alchemist Stößelbruch in Tanaris.
Rezept: Alchemistenstein	Requires Outland Alchemy (50)	Purchased from Almaador in Shattrath City. Requires The Sha'tar - Revered.
Rezept: Alchemistenstein des Wächters	Requires Outland Alchemy (75)	Purchased from Eldara Dämmerflucht. Requires Shattered Sun Offensive - Exalted.
Rezept: Alchemistenstein des Zauberers	Requires Outland Alchemy (75)	Purchased from Eldara Dämmerflucht. Requires Shattered Sun Offensive - Exalted.
Rezept: Alchemistenstein des Erlösers	Requires Outland Alchemy (75)	Purchased from Eldara Dämmerflucht. Requires Shattered Sun Offensive - Exalted.
Rezept: Alchemistenstein des Assassinen	Requires Outland Alchemy (75)	Purchased from Eldara Dämmerflucht. Requires Shattered Sun Offensive - Exalted.
Quecksilbriger Alchemistenstein	Northrend Alchemy (25)	Taught by any Northrend Alchemy trainer. See Deucus Valdera in Northrend Dalaran.
Unzerstörbarer Alchemistenstein	Northrend Alchemy (25)	Taught by any Northrend Alchemy trainer. See Deucus Valdera in Northrend Dalaran.
Mächtiger Alchemistenstein	Northrend Alchemy (25)	Taught by any Northrend Alchemy trainer. See Deucus Valdera in Northrend Dalaran.
Lebensgebundener Alchemistenstein	Cataclysm Alchemy (50)	Taught by any Cataclysm Alchemy trainer. See Lilyssia Nachtbrise (Alliance) in Stormwind City, or Yelmak (Horde) in Orgrimmar.
Flüchtiger Alchemistenstein	Cataclysm Alchemy (50)	Taught by any Cataclysm Alchemy trainer. See Lilyssia Nachtbrise (Alliance) in Stormwind City, or Yelmak (Horde) in Orgrimmar.
Lebhafter Alchemistenstein	Cataclysm Alchemy (50)	Taught by any Cataclysm Alchemy trainer. See Lilyssia Nachtbrise (Alliance) in Stormwind City, or Yelmak (Horde) in Orgrimmar.
Leuchtender Alchemistenstein	Cataclysm Alchemy (50)	Taught by any Cataclysm Alchemy trainer. See Lilyssia Nachtbrise (Alliance) in Stormwind City, or Yelmak (Horde) in Orgrimmar.
Meditativer Alchemistenstein	Pandaria Alchemy (1)	Taught by any Pandaria Alchemy trainer. See Ni Sanftpfote in Jade Forest.
Rezept: Draenischer Stein der Weisen	Draenor Alchemy (1)	Purchase off Katherine Joplin. Requires Alchemiegeheimnis von Draenor x1.
Rezept: Infernaler Alchemistenstein	Legion Alchemy (1)	Purchase off Patricia Egan in Legion Dalaran (Rank 1).
Rezept: Astraler Alchemistenstein	Legion Alchemy (1)	Rewarded from quest Ansteigende Alchemie (Rank 1).
Alchemistenstein der Sirene	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (25)	Taught by any Battle for Azeroth Alchemy trainer. See Elrick Pfitzer (Alliance) in Boralus Harbour, or Kumali die Kluge (Horde) in Dazar'alor.
Wallender Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (80)	Taught by any Battle for Azeroth Alchemy trainer. See Elrick Pfitzer (Alliance) in Boralus Harbour, or Kumali die Kluge (Horde) in Dazar'alor.
Blutiger Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (100)	Taught by any Battle for Azeroth Alchemy trainer. See Elrick Pfitzer (Alliance) in Boralus Harbour, or Kumali die Kluge (Horde) in Dazar'alor.
Machtgetränkter Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (100)	Discovered from crafting Blutiger Alchemistenstein.
Verzierter Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (100)	Discovered from crafting Machtgetränkter Alchemistenstein.
Gezeitenalchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (130)	Taught by any Battle for Azeroth Alchemy trainer. See Elrick Pfitzer (Alliance) in Boralus Harbour, or Kumali die Kluge (Horde) in Dazar'alor.
Lebendiger Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (130)	Discovered from crafting Gezeitenalchemistenstein.
Ewiger Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (130)	Discovered from crafting Lebendiger Alchemistenstein.
Abyssischer Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (165)	Obtained in Nazjatar. See this comment on how to obtain. Note this stone is not required for the achievement, but is required to craft one that is.
Zermalmender Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (165)	Discovered by crafting Abyssischer Alchemistenstein. Note this stone is not required for the achievement, but is required to craft one that is.
Erwachter Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (165)	Discovered from crafting Zermalmender Alchemistenstein.
Entfesselter Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (165)	Drops from enemies in N'zoth Assaults in the open world and Visions of Stormwind. See this page for more information. Note this stone is not required for the achievement, but is required to craft one that is.
Erweckter Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (165)	Discovered by crafting Entfesselter Alchemistenstein. Note this stone is not required for the achievement, but is required to craft one that is.
Unvergleichlicher Alchemistenstein	Battle for Azeroth Alchemy (165)	Discovered from crafting Erweckter Alchemistenstein.

Crafting the Philosopher's Stones

This achievement requires a lot of crafting. To prevent this information from being too overwhelming, I've split resources into expansions. You'll need to craft some Philosophers Stones multiple times to create other Philosophers Stones.

Classic
Craft 4 Stein der Weisen. These are used as reagents in Outland Philosophers Stones.

Eisenbarren x16
Schwarzes Vitriol x4
Lila Lotus x16
Feuerblüte x16
Outland
Craft 4 Alchemistenstein. Use the 4 Stein der Weisen you made earlier to craft these next stones.

Stein der Weisen x4 (crafted above)
Erdsturmdiamant x4
Himmelsfeuerdiamant x4
Teufelslotus x8
Urmacht x20

Then, craft your remaining Outland stones.

Alchemistenstein x4 (crafted above)
Urluft x6
Nethervortex x8
Urfeuer x6
Urleben x6
Urschatten x6
Northrend
Goldklee x20
Äonenleben x2
Frostlotus x3
Brennnessel x20
Pygmäenöl x12
Schlangenzunge x15
Tigerlilie x15
Cataclysm
Flüchtiges Leben x200
Aschenblüte x56
Azsharas Schleier x32
Herzblüte x56
Pandaria
Goldlotus x3
Draenor
Alchemischer Katalysator x5
Echteisenerz x1
Legion
Following items crafted assuming Rank 1.

First, craft Infernaler Alchemistenstein.

Infernoschwefel x1
Teufelswurz x5
Blut von Sargeras x3 - BoP. Obtained from completing Legion WQs, dungeons, raids and various other activities.

Then, use Infernaler Alchemistenstein to craft Astraler Alchemistenstein.

Infernaler Alchemistenstein x1
Astralwinde x75
Ursargerit x5 - BoP. Obtained by completing various activities on Argus. WQ's, gathering, killing enemies.
Battle for Azeroth
Following items crafted assuming Rank 1.

Craft Alchemistenstein der Sirene and Wallender Alchemistenstein in any order.
Craft Blutiger Alchemistenstein > Machtgetränkter Alchemistenstein > Verzierter Alchemistenstein.
Craft Gezeitenalchemistenstein > Lebendiger Alchemistenstein >Ewiger Alchemistenstein.
Craft Abyssischer Alchemistenstein > Zermalmender Alchemistenstein > Erwachter Alchemistenstein.
Craft Entfesselter Alchemistenstein > Erweckter Alchemistenstein > Unvergleichlicher Alchemistenstein.

Meeresstängel x20
Sternmoos x20
Ankerkraut x565
Akundas Biss x375
Winterkuss x375
Zin'anthide x1300

For these items you can SCRAP WHAT YOU CRAFT to get your resources back. It will cost you less than these totals to craft. Take it stone by stone.

Expulsom x382 - BoP. Obtained best by scrapping green items. Buy green BFA Tidespray items off the Auction House (or craft) and scrap. This will be tedious to obtain.
Hydrokern x30 - Looted from the last boss in BFA Mythic dungeons. May have to convert from Tidal Cores.
Blutzelle x275 - Drops from bosses in Uldir.
Atem von Bwonsamdi x220 - Drops from bosses in Battle of Dazar'alor.

If you've gotten this far, congrats. You completed this pain in the ass achievement. As this comment is very long and took me at least 6 hours to write, I may of made mistakes. Please shoot me a message on Twitter or on Discord (buuloki) if any of these values are incorrect. Or @ me in the Wowhead Feedback channel.(##RESPBREAK##)396##DELIM##Buuloki##DELIM##

Kommentar von Murbastic

Yea i got all proff achivs atm for evertying i say mining and herb rank 3 star legion was most pain, this is second pain.

Kommentar von Melandroso

... and not retroactive? OMG, I am loosing my interest in achievements fast....

Kommentar von Sluimerstand

If you are looking for an easy way to track how many of which materials you need in-game, Profession Shopping List may be for you. You can manually track recipes, or use /psl to track all the recipes required for the linked achievement.

The addon will calculate all the necessary reagents and show you how many of them you already have. You can also Ctrl+Click any reagent that can be crafted itself (i.e. Bronze Bar) to track the recipe for that as well.

Happy crafting!

Kommentar von Eiwo

BfA trinket tip:
Remember to scrap the ones u craft from BfA at the scrapper. all of them, but especially the tidal core one, so u get all tidal cores back and turn them into hydro cores.
So craft the tidal core trinket before the hydracore and only farm 15 instead of 30. (I don't remember if there was a way of turning hydrocores back into tidalcores).
Also, all raid mats seem to be refunded from scrapping, but that's not very relevant.
Even expulsum is regained from scrapping (forgot to check if it's 100% refund but it's high the least).

Kommentar von Walocial

I only farmed 130 expulsom, and by scrapping all of the trinkets from BFA alchemy, that amount ended up being sufficient. Even had 15 more than necessary.

Kommentar von Squigglyo

A few of these need 'previous' stones. So double check before you vendor them (Infernal Stone, Alchemist Stone, Philosphers stone, etc).

Shattered Sun Offensive - Clear Heroic once and then just grind out Normal, almost the same rep. Pretty fast, ignore the daily quests.

Sha'tar - Can buy the items, or run Botanica, fastest dungeon for rep for them.

Theres a short quest to unlock the Argus Alchemist Stone. You'll also need Primal Sargarite - Invasions drop this usually. I got 5 from each Greater Invasion I did.

Hydrocore/Tidalcore - Use Tidalcore first, as this drops ONLY from Mythic Dungeons. If doing a World Tour, have a way to heal for Temple of Seth (one of the azeroth necklace essenses let you if you have no other way). After that scrap the item and youll get all 15 back. Then turn them into Hydrocore.

Sanguicell / Breath of Bwonsamdi - You'll get these back 100% from scrapping, so take that into account when grinding. Need 250 sanguicell and 200 Breaths all up. Don't waste time doing the raid on normal.

You'll need to do the quests to unlock the 'crafting tables' for 8.2 and 8.3. Easiest to do these on mythic (will need a small group). Annoying part is you won't recieve more than what you need. EG: First quest needs 10 (or whateveR), youll get 10 and need to turn in the quest and then get the next quest and then go back in. So budget your time for that, group will need to resummon you or you need to do it multiple weeks.

Kommentar von Reddott

5 Achievement Points for this is quite ridiculous.

Kommentar von Flanell

I still have 3 alchemist stones on my bank from the past: vanilla, cata and pandaria. But the stupid game won't count them for the achievment even when my name is printed on them. But my Mallet of Thunderous Skins for leatherworking in bfa got counted. What is this biased bull sh!t?

Update: I opened a ticket about that and the GM just told me to post on the bug forums and to hope that Blizzard maybe fix it.

Kommentar von DechCJC

This has to be a joke.

It's not the achievement that's annoying, it's the fact that many of us have DONE a good chunk of it already. Not only that, but it's tied to materials that we WOULD have had an abundance of at the time, but since it's multiple expansions later we obviously don't; Now we have to grind old raids for no purpose other than completing an achievement that, by all rights, we should have completed IN that expansion. Why didn't it exist then?

At the very least, they should remove rep requirements and make BoP items BoE for past content content. What if they start asking for recipes that can only be unlocked after being max renown with a covenant or something? We gonna have to do an entire covenant grind in the future again on another alt for the sake of some arbitrary achievement? Maybe a little bit of Torghast? This is such a spit in the face to the players. There's not even a reward for it. What's next, are they going to randomly add a "Craft every item in the game" achievement? Gee wiz, guess I better just farm everything to the moon and keep EVERY material in my bank on the off-chance that Blizzard decides to pull even more old expansion achievement crap again.

I don't know about you guys, but while my main is pretty stacked on reps, my alts sure aren't. If my leatherworker suddenly needs a pattern from Cataclysm rep or whatever, then my choices are to either go get rep with that faction on my leatherworker (woo...) or to re-learn leatherworking on my main, dealing with whatever repercussions that brings. Wicked. No, that's great, I love that. GREAT.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Players that farm achievements are going to be doing so for a long time to come, they're not going to quit due to running out of content. The minority of people that have max achievements are far too attached to their accounts to just forever stop playing (and even if they do, there's only a handful of players), and the vast majority of us that have a ways to go yet already have our hands full with the plethora of other achievements that already exist -- People that are going after achievements aren't the players Blizzard needs to worry about quitting due to a lack of content...

Achievements that exist for the sake of existing, shouldn't exist (As in achievements that take a long time, offer no reward or challenge and would never have been attempted if it weren't for the fact that it was an achievement). What benefit is there other than alienating the players that enjoy hunting them? Please, for the love of God, stop adding stuff like this... It's just killing the game for me.

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	Alchemistenstein des Zauberers (1)
	Alchemistenstein des Assassinen (1)
	Quecksilbriger Alchemistenstein (1)
	Mächtiger Alchemistenstein (1)
	Flüchtiger Alchemistenstein (1)
	Leuchtender Alchemistenstein (1)
	Draenischer Stein der Weisen (1)
	Astraler Alchemistenstein (1)
	Astraler Alchemistenstein (1)
	Astraler Alchemistenstein (1)
	Astraler Alchemistenstein (1)
	Wallender Alchemistenstein (1)
	Wallender Alchemistenstein (1)
	Wallender Alchemistenstein (1)
	Wallender Alchemistenstein (1)
	Machtgetränkter Alchemistenstein (1)
	Gezeitenalchemistenstein (1)
	Ewiger Alchemistenstein (1)
	Unvergleichlicher Alchemistenstein (1)

	Alchemistenstein des Wächters (1)
	Alchemistenstein des Erlösers (1)
	Alchemistenstein (1)
	Unzerstörbarer Alchemistenstein (1)
	Lebensgebundener Alchemistenstein (1)
	Lebhafter Alchemistenstein (1)
	Meditativer Alchemistenstein (1)
	Infernaler Alchemistenstein (1)
	Infernaler Alchemistenstein (1)
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	Alchemistenstein der Sirene (1)
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	Blutiger Alchemistenstein (1)
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