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Kommentar von mike1097

Der Großmeerrochen ist eines der Reittiere, welche mit Battle for Azeroth zum Spiel hinzugefügt wurden.
Er ist erhältlich durch den Beruf Angeln und wird mit einer geringen Chance beim fischen im offenen Ozean gefangen.

Um festzustellen, ob man am richtigen Ort angelt, müsst ihr die gefangen Fische im Auge behalten.

Auf Seiten der Allianz, also Kul Tiras, dürft ihr ausschließlich Spurschnapper und Rasender Tigerfisch fangen.
Auf Seiten der Horde, also Zandalar, dürft ihr lediglich Schleimige Makrele und Sandschleicher fangen.

In seltenen Fällen fangt ihr auf beiden Seiten auch einen Mitternachtslachs.

Fangt ihr auch andere als die oben genannten Fische, dann fischt ihr nicht im offenen Meer und müsst die Angelstelle wechseln.

Allgemeine Informationen

Es wird keine minimale Angelfertigkeit vorrausgesetzt (nur Angeln von Kul Tiras ist sinnvoll).
Ihr könnt überall im Ozean angeln, Fischschwärme sind nicht notwendig
Der Rochen ist einzigartig und handelbar

Ich habe hier einen Guide auf YouTube veröffentlicht, der viele Fragen im Detail beantwortet.

Kommentar von Cityroll3r

Hab mehr als 17500 Einwürfe gebraucht ca 10 Tage dauer angeln

Mount ist Angelbar auch wen ihr es schon erlernt habt

Angel Position: 59.98, 84.35

Viel gedult mitbringen

- 8614 Schleimige Makrele
- 8563 Sndschleicher
- 517 Mitternachtslach
- Mehr als 200 Graue

Kommentare

Kommentar von 4benzor4

I know i got lucky, but 41 casts later i got her by standing in the middle of the water around 55,65 in Zuldazar.
(Not that it matters since its just ocean waters)

*** ITS Bind when USED aswell as being UNIQUE - so either use it or sell on AH case you catch a 2nd :)

Kommentar von silvershadows

Caught my ray on my third cast in open water right at the dock in Zuldazar. These may not be hard to get, as I am rarely that lucky.

Kommentar von Xarcus

Caught mine on the 80th cast in the open ocean, right on the dock at Port of Zandalar (not a single cast in a pool)

Kommentar von Swayyde

caught mine after exactly 30 casts just behind Tradewinds Market. can confirm it doesn't need to be fished from a pool and is bind on use.

Kommentar von Daviddicks

got mine today after 104 casts, fishing at port of Zandalar.

Kommentar von NeonDisease

Going for this now, 70 casts in so far and nada. 453 casts and nothing still.

Kommentar von Loskyy

I caught my first on 26th try.. sold for 500k gold and now i have fished 3 more in 1 hour :D EZPZ

Kommentar von dieselh

you won't get the achievement buying it

Kommentar von Ellgar3

One important note, that i found missing among other comments:
I have fished it up in the Zuldazar around 55,65 (open water, no pool) just as 4benzor4 suggested, however if you are fishing anywhere else, it looks like the place you are looking for, must be part of the ocean waters of the Zandalar / Kul Tiras continent and not 'The Great Sea'.

I've been fishing in the great sea as well, but without luck. Got it on the coordinates within 100 casts.
(there's still a chance, that i have been unlucky and it actually is possible to fish it up in the great sea).

Kommentar von Hiyorin

Fished up in Tradewinds Market just now, by the ferry master. So you can be pretty far inland.

Kommentar von Squeamie

I got mine on my 324th catch in Zandalar. Really not bad compared to other pet/mount farming tasks I've done in the past! 1% drop is pretty huge compared to 0.01, lol.

Kommentar von Abracastabya

Be wary of having one in your bag and keeping on fishing as it says unique and your easy caught out

I caught 1, hadn't learnt it and was still fishing to get another for my wife.

Caught a 2nd, couldn't loot it at all and it was lost when fishing loot closed.

Learn it, or move it on before you fish some more

Hopefully you're not reading this too late.

Kommentar von legionfalls

Just got mine at 1:51am (est) 19-Aug-18 on Dazar'Alor docks @ 57,63 Zuldazar after roughly 17 minutes/30 casts with Zandalari Fishing @ 42/150 using Nat's Hat (with buff) and Underlight Angler pushing me with a +36.

This is by far the nerdiest thing I've ever said.

Anyway, judging by how soon I got it and the amount on the AH (average of 40k) I'd say this achievement/item is pretty easy to obtain.

Kommentar von DrummerKane

Open water, 283rd cast in Zuldazar harbor.

Kommentar von Aurecante

Caught mine in Stormsong Valley (coord 77,61) while fishing in open water, not in a pool, and with just the standard fishing pole.

Kommentar von Cexxi

Bay of Kings in Zuldazar around 54/67. Took about 120 casts.

Kommentar von hevgirl

hotfix: Großmeerrochen is no longer "unique" and you can hold multiple in your inventory at the same time

Kommentar von Volleynova

Seems like a lot of you are getting these at the Port of Zandalar. After like 5500 casts combined in Vol'dun, Tiragarde Sound, and Zuldazar's southern coast, I'll give the docks a try. I was able to level up my fishing to 150 and also receive the 50 midnight salmon achievement at the other places, but no mount. It's extremely discouraging how terrible my Random Number Generation is.

I'll update here if I get it at the Zandalar Docks.

Kommentar von coldwinter18

It seems that they fixed the high drop rate

Kommentar von coldwinter18

Do you know if i can catch the ray in Zuldazar, Xibala?

Kommentar von SparkzBarth

lost count of casts at about 1200..... don't be fooled, bad RNG can be really bad RNG.

still no mount.

Kommentar von GatorPick

Caught mine in Boralus Harbor at 73,40 today at 4:15 pm PST

Kommentar von AlexL1118

Can it be fished from a pool?

Kommentar von arekantos

Can someone confirm it can drop after the drop rate change? ive done over 6000 throws now still nothing

Kommentar von Mathpunk

lvl'd fishing to 150
queued dungeons as dps while fishing, made it to lvl 120
over 100 midnight salmon so far
and just over 2,000 fish caught altogether
still no mount..
so yeah, well over 2,000 casts, and nothing yet

Kommentar von Boyonfire

Leveled fishing to 150
Leveled cooking to 131
Caught 98 midnight fish

No mount yet.... rng must hate me.

Eta: this post last updated on 11/30/2018 @ 0616hrs

Kommentar von Volleynova

After thousands of casts in various places around Zuldazar, Vol'dun, Tiragarde Sound, Drustvar, Boralus Harbor, I finally got it at 40.0, 35.1 in Stormsong Valley, off the Jeweled Coast near the Tortollan hub. I had been trying for this mount since BfA release and refused to simply buy it from the Auction House as I wanted the achievement completed proper. So glad I got it done.

Kommentar von dksjt

Caught mine 12-21-18 near flight path in dead wood cove zol dun

Kommentar von GuybrushFawkes

Fished up the mount on the 23rd of April 2019 after aproximately 5000 casts, which seems to be pretty average luck judging from some of the other comments in here.

I did about a third of my fishing in different locations. Did some in Vol'dun and Boralus harbour and finally got the drop while camping at a chill fishing spot in the north-western corner of Drustvar.

/way Drustvar:Kul Tiras 19,5 7,2

Good luck!

Picture of location and drop: https://imgur.com/a/FmiEle9

Kommentar von Daemordrath

Got it after 6.2k attempts, right off the docks at plunder harbor in tirigarde sound. I sat in the boat behind the BE right next to the siege dungeon entrance. Couldnt quite believe my eyes when i saw it.

My advice is set a small daily goal, mine was 200 casts a day, which was about 30 mins of fishing. Avg catch time was 12 sec during my sessions.

Edit: my total fishing skill was 213 zandalari (+63), but i dont believe skill matters much if at all.

GL!

SS for proof https://gyazo.com/1089263f55a33804d2ecfca7233ea967

Kommentar von Snowrulez

I just got the mount by clicking on the little waterbubbles for the achievement "Secret Fish and Where to Find Them", while wearing the Secret Fish Goggles. I was even standing on a rock in Nagrand (outland) at 63.2 90.9.
So this was a much easier way to get the mount, instead of fishing for hours at the same spot.

Kommentar von JoanTheMongoose

I fished this out of a tiny pond in Mechagon where the troggs are.

Kommentar von Ninelya

Got this while farming Geheime Fische und wo sie zu finden sind in Nagrand o_O

Kommentar von Hessu

Atm over 13k casts - still nothing

Kommentar von hotcore

This achievement makes me very angry.
When BFA first came out, this mount was quite easy to obtain from fishing. The drop rate was clearly not changed from the PTR and had a high chance to drop. Blizzards solution to this problem was to make the mount have an extremely very low drop rate (even more rarer than the argus fishing mount). They could of changed this achievement to simply say 'obtain' instead of 'fish up' the mount which would of solved a lot of the problems. I was one of the unlucky ones who didn't fish this mount up when it was easier and now I suffer. It will take HOURS to get this mount. It is very rare and a slap in the face. It was Blizzards mistake to allow this mount to be a high drop chance so they should of left it like it was. NOT punish the players who didn't take advantage of this 'bug'. Yes you can buy the mount in the auction house, but you are not rewarded the achievement.

Kommentar von Vazterial

Has anyone manage to cap this since 8.3? been trying for weeks now and still didnt get it to drop..

EDIT: fished it up today after 1.5k casts at the zuldazar docks.

Kommentar von Mughragh

3100 casts at the port...still no Ray :(

Kommentar von fabrown100

I received Großmeerrochen today while working on the Geheime Fische und wo sie zu finden sind achievement and wearing Fischfinderbrille while clicking on goldfish bubbles in the Amberfly Bog near Pearlfin Village in Jade Forest. Completely unexpected! Note that I was doing this near ponds. I surmise that since this is an Azeroth fishing quest this mount can also be obtained in places other than Kul Tiras and Zandalar while clicking on those Azeroth bubbles for Geheime Fische und wo sie zu finden sind. For those of you who have Fischfinderbrille I suggest wearing them as often as possible for a higher chance to receive the mount and click on those bubbles when near water.

Kommentar von xviruslol

above 1500 cast no luck

after my 4.7k cast i finally got it today

Kommentar von brune12345

8700 and counting over 5 days and nothing at Port of Zandalar...feelsbadman

Kommentar von Tryllagain

Not to dishearten any of you brave fishermen trying to fish this little devil up, but I have tried actively for periods ever since BFA came out. (Well after the nerf in drop rate)

This is a screenshot from after my third or fourth period of actively trying:
https://imgur.com/W5iksii

So I guess you can probably multiply that number of fish with 3 or 4. (Not counting the trash equipment you get every 40th cast approximately)

In other words; of all the fishing achievements (I've got them all now.), this is the bugger you really should save your prayers to the RNG-gods for.

Kisses and hugs and small licks on your cheek from me.

Kommentar von hotcore

I fished this mount up at Anyport in Drustvar. 1.5k casts. I did this grind over 2-3 days when I had time. The fish still sell well on my server so I didn't go to mechagon that other people have mentioned. I also had warmode on (didn't get attacked once).

Kommentar von Deathrall

700+ cast at Bay of Kings. I stopped anything that wasn't fishing and started casting. 3 shifts of casting, 3 episodes of Netflix "High Score". time went by fast with my strategy.

Kommentar von petejk

What a miserable achievement.
12000 (yes, twelve thousand) casts, and no Great Sea Ray

Meh

Kommentar von jwzulauf

I was fishing in a cave in Mechagon going for the Secret Fish of Mechagon achievement and caught it just now at 56:21 inside the cave (Hungry Rest) while fishing for the Shadowy Cave Eel.

This comment wasn't intended to gloat or anything. I was surprised that it happened, and I wanted to share here that it could happen in that type of fishing spot.

Kommentar von Tynael

Here is why I think Mechagon is the best spot (might not be the fastest) to try your luck in catching the mount.

If you fish in Mechagon there's a chance of getting valuable loot, other than typical BfA fish, that can be used for other achievements in Mechagon - if you haven't completed them yet.
- Sentry Fish - if used - will give you Spare Parts, which is the base currency in Mechagon and can be used for several purposes (achievements, pets, mounts)
- Ionized Minnow is a reagent for Cooking and Junkyard Tinkering
- There's also chance of getting the required fish for

Tl;dr You can progress faster with your achievements related to Mechagon and collectibles if you choose to fish this mount in Mechagon.

Kommentar von coldwinter18

Just fished it today, in Boralus at 74.83, 25.88 (you will see 3 pylons in front and a bit left of the Dock Master). I caught it at 3222 Boralus casts but I think it is around 5k since I was fishing some months ago in Xibala too. I was fishing for 30 minutes every day. I caught all my aquatic mounts like that... no hurry...

Kommentar von triasdeva

Just got it after no idea how many casts. Just leting u all know that it is posible. Boralus 74,25

Kommentar von SGHIceman

After seeing recommendations on the mount itself I decided to try my luck at Shatterstone Harbor in Vol'dun and got it after approximately 150-200 casts!

Kommentar von Trojanhorse

Patch 9.1 and you can still get this! I started to wonder since it took me c.25k casts at Boralus Harbor (exact co-ords 89.48 54.50).

Kommentar von Tuskolabu

Patch 9.2.5. It took me like 25-30 casts. Coasts of Zuldazar 60,65 .

Kommentar von pajal

started fishing in Zuldazar (60,65)
1500casts nothing so far

Kommentar von Kronatan

achievement disapeared from list after patch 10.2.5. But I got "Kul Tiran Fisherman" instead. That I cannot complete on this char cos Horde.

Kommentar von Cuffouis

Reports say, Rochen unterjochen can only be achieved by fishing up Großmeerrochen, opposed to purchasing it on the auction house.

Other mounts released in "Battle for Azeroth" that can be bought and sold on the auction house:
Goldmähnes Zügel drops in Das Sturmsangtal
Durchgekaute Zügel des verängstigten Packmulis drops in Drustvar
Zügel eines gezähmten Blutschmausers drops in Nazmir
Gefangener Dünenaasfresser drops in Vol'dun

Kommentar von SilverB

I can confirm that I got the mount in Zuldazar - Bay of Kings after maximum 30 tries

Kommentar von Grimhead

After quite a bunch of casts (around 1500 give or take) caught one at Sandy Refuge, Stormsong Valley.

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