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评论来自
Wren
I guess its alright, the 1 minute thing really could be 30 seconds though or at least put some +healing/regen on it.
评论来自
Nilez
it's a good thing to keep the first innervate till you're under 20% then, have it proc, then innervate
评论来自
furty
does it come up every minute while you are under 20% or only when you are above 20% and go below?
评论来自
24721
this doesnt seem very good, it takes up a trinket slot and is only worth 600 mana every minute and not even that. Any healer should pass on this, worth more disenchanted.
评论来自
30012
A good use of this trinket would be Divine Favour from a Paladin. Once you approach pass 20% and the proc activates, cast Divine Favour and use a Holy Light. The spell will crit, cost only 240 mana, and you will end up with a net gain of 600 mana.
The unfortunate thing about this trinket is if you are spamming fast heals, you could go below 20%, activate the proc and already consume it before you even knew it.
评论来自
22837
This trinket is mediocre in my opinion - it does absolutely nothing until you reach 20% mana, whereas almost every other trinket is useful for the -entire- fight. Useful in some situations, yes; most fights may be better off a trinket like:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24127
if you are a JC (especially shamans, as the effect is classified as a totem, and will restore 1200 instead of 900 mana if you are spec'd for improved mana spring totem ) or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28370
The bangle is like a mini bluedragon, but it procs much more often (15% vs. 2% on the blue dragon), so the regen is much more constant. Bonus for being able to increase innervate/evoc regen and the click effect while the proc is active is also a good combo.
The longer the fight goes, the longer and more often you will be at <20% mana, so this trinket gains in use with length of fight. (Compare a 5 minute fight with 1 use at 10 mp5, or 10 minutes with 4 uses at 20 mp5). Also, it may be important to note that the trinket's effect may not register after the cooldown cycles if your mana is already below 20%; it may have to rise above then drop below 20% again for it to register.
评论来自
frmorrison
This is a horrible trinket, if you are a healer that has less than 20% mana you messed up and should have used a mana pot.
评论来自
42799
This trinket will be changing in the next patch (2.1) Which will have a chance to restore mana on each spell cast.
评论来自
47260
Does any1 know if the effect will trigger on instant casts aswell?
评论来自
48335
In fact I got this trinket by thinking this trinket would give 600mana for each heal spell but it's not that !!! it's juste 600 less on A spell not on many so this trinket would give you one extra heal every minits when you get below 20% mana ... useless
评论来自
14216
Following feepit, above, on mp5 equivalences:
1.4s cast time -> (450 / (1.4 * 50)) * 5 -> 32 mp5
1.5s cast time -> (450 / (1.5 * 50)) * 5 -> 30 mp5
2.0s cast time -> (450 / (2.0 * 50)) * 5 -> 22.5 mp5
2.5s cast time -> (450 / (2.5 * 50)) * 5 -> 18 mp5
3.0s cast time -> (450 / (3.0 * 50)) * 5 -> 15 mp5
Another way to look at this proc is by mana per cast. On average, after 100 casts this trinket will proc 2 times for 900 mana, or 9 mana per cast. This holds true for instant cast heals as well, so I don't see any reason to think that this trinket will be limited to spells with cast times.
0.0s cast time = 40 casts per minute -> 360 mp60 = 30 mp5 (instant casts)
1.5s cast time = 40 casts per minute -> 360 mp60 = 30 mp5
2.0s cast time = 30 casts per minute -> 270 mp60 = 22.5 mp5
2.5s cast time = 24 casts per minute -> 216 mp60 = 18 mp5
3.0s cast time = 20 casts per minute -> 180 mp60 = 15 mp5
Obviously the theoretical casts per minute will be a bit higher than what you can achieve in-game due to lag, etc.
Remember that this trinket also has 44 +healing in addition to these huge "effective mp5" numbers, so comparisons with Shard of the Scale, for instance, may not be appropriate.
评论来自
50090
Too bad this doesn't proc when the heal lands. If it did, this trinket + chain heal = leetsauce
评论来自
fhait
Yes I'm starting to think that there is an internal cooldown on this. After a couple of Black Morass runs to test the new version of this trinket, the proc rate seems lower than a base 2%.
Confirm/Deny ? What are people's experience with this ?
评论来自
22619
I drained my mana pool 3 times with rank 1 Flash of Light and never saw anything.
Does it give you a visible buff when it procs?
评论来自
fhait
It does give a visible buff.
It is called 'Healing Trance'.
评论来自
utwarreng
This trinket is utter garbage. I've drained my mana pool 10 times using rank 7 healing wave, and I just did a full heroic Arcatraz run; and there's only been one proc. between the two.
评论来自
fhait
I tend to agree. It doesn't proc enough to make it worth the slot.
I think I will go back to either the Bangle of Endless Blessings or the Lower City Prayerbook for more reliable results. Even my Shard of the Scale would probably give better mileage.
There must be some kind of internal timer on this that takes the proc rate below 2%.
It would be nice if there were some kind of add-on to track statistics on trinket procs...
评论来自
Ravus
I can confirm there is NO global cooldown, I've had back-to-back procs (using rank 1 Greater Heal aswell, so rank has no effect I'm pretty sure)
if it wasn't for the passive healing aswell this just wouldn't be worth having, 2% is a very low proc chance (as anyone who used darkmoon card: blue dragon for very long will tell you).
Only bad thing is IF this procs with clearcast, and your spell costs nothing, it still uses up the proc -.- which means if you get extra lucky you get unlucky. which sucks.
Personally i think they should buff this.. maybe lower it to 300 man, or even 250, but make it for all spells cast in the next 15 seconds, not just the first :p.
Oh well :) its still pretty good.
评论来自
benson
Lower City Prayerbook
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30841
Just as good imo. CD is 1 min.
26 more healing and
with a cast time of 1.5 it takes 220 mana every min or a little over 18 mp/5 if you pop it every time the CD is up. ofc on bigger heals the benefit is small, but overall i think its greatly comperable.
评论来自
64496
This trinket is capable of proccing off your earth shield if you are a shaman, as well.
评论来自
Jokes
I am just wondering.. As a paladin, say this procs and I cast FoL which only costs 180 mana, my heal would be free?
评论来自
48751
I blew threw 3 bars of full mana doing flash heals ( about 27 flash heals per full mana, so 81 spell casts total ), and got 1 proc.
This thing is a piece of junk. 1 proc every 50 casts just isn't worth it.
Bangle of Endless Blessings + Scarab of the Infinite Cycle are much better choices for a priest.
评论来自
Duxa
it procs quite alot as a druid, about once every 20-30 seconds.
评论来自
72749
I just picked this up for my priest. It's funny you mention Blue Dragon, Ravus, since that's by far the best druid/priest mana return trinket out there. I think Eye of Gruul could be similar, but harder to model.
It does go without saying that chain-casting renew, flash heal, and prayer of mending the Eye is good. 22-30 mp5 is good and the +heal means it surpases my shard of the scale there. But we don't just chain-cast small spells. Here's where the fun begins.
The key here is that free spells don't count towards the five second rule. As a priest I already have two means of casting free spells -- inner focus and clearcasting. Chaining the two together means I have 3-5 seconds of casting done that doesn't count towards the five second rule. If I'm casting greater heal that means I get two ticks of full spirit regen while casting the third greater heal before it goes off -- without any break in my casting. If I slow my casting and spread out the spells (generally a clearcasting greater heal, pause, inner focus greater heal, pause, whatever I need to cast to catch up) I can get out of the five second rule for 4-6 seconds and pick up an extra 600-900 mana on top of my usual mp5 regen.
Eye of Gruul adds a third free spell -- although it has to be a prayer of mending or one rank down on flash heal or renew. I'll probably just downrank flash heal on my main cast bar permanently and use that on the Gruul procs where I'm trying to regen mana. With a little careful practice I bet the regen of the Eye could be a lot higher than what you're modeling.
评论来自
73540
So far I am very disappointed in this trinket. As a ToL Druid I had to drain 4 pools of over 10k mana casting Lifebloom at 177 mana a pop. I even used my Lower City Prayerbook each time the cooldown was up. I had but one lousy proc.
This was non-stop casting, not worrying about mobs, sitting in Shat, watching my buffs like a hawk. I even use DOTimer, and have it set-up so it shows DoTs/HoTs on my screen for a few seconds after they expire. So, I couldn't blink and have casted it away and not noticed.
It took so damn long to proc I thought the tooltip was mislabeled and this was a trinket similar to Ribbon of Sacrifice... off direct heals only. So, very disappointed in my waste of DKP. Maybe this item will be buffed, because frankly for what I have at the moment I prefer Lower City Prayerbook and my damn old Rejuvenating Gem from BWL.
评论来自
Corbon
Paladin here, replaced it with Essence of the Martyr some days ago (Rejuv Gem in the other slot).
I assume that you can display the proc more prominently by using an addon like ProcWatch, otherwise it will show up unnoticed in your buff bar. The proc may occur when you don't want/need to use Holy Light but a Flash instead. You could still use a downranked Holy Light (Rank 7 costs 465 MP) to avoid (too much) overheal but still get the full 450 MP back.
Anway I just want more control over a trinket, either totally passive or a "Use" effect.
评论来自
Sylvina
I'll have to agree... I need some sort of mod to watch this proc, but I end up spamming heals and watching the bar and it's only procced once, and by the time I noticed it I wasted the heal on some Flash of Light spam. It's a pretty useless trinket overall.
评论来自
15927
Quick and dirty comparison from a ToL-Druids perspective, but useful for priests as well.
General assumptions:
- You are a druid, therefore your mana gained every 2s-tick is: spirit/4.5+15 (according to wowwiki) (priests: spirit/4+12.5)
- You got 600 spirit with raid-buffs. (I usually have around 700.)
- You have 3/3 Intensity.
- During the fight, you are always in the five-second-rule (5SR.
- You cast 15 spells per minute. (approx. castrate if you keep Rejuvenation and 3x Lifebloom on a single target)
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Eye of Gruul
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28823
* no internal cooldown assumed
* You make full effect of the proc by saving the full 450 mana.
15 (casts) * 0.02 (procrate) * 450 (mana) / 12 = 135 mana/min = 11.25 mp5
------------------------------------------
Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19288
* no internal cooldown assumed
* possibility of procs while the buff is up ignored (highly unlikely)
additional mana per proc = 600/4.5+15 (spirit based mana regen per 2s tick)/2 * 15 (sec duration) * 0.85 (difference from 3/3 intensity) = 1087 mana
15 (casts) * 0.02 (procrate) * 1087 mana = 326 mana/min = 27 mp5
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Bangle of Endless Blessings
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28370
* 10% procrate
* internal cooldown capping the ppm at around 1
additional mana per proc = 600/4.5+15 (spirit based mana regen per 2s tick)/2 * 15 (sec duration) * 0.15 (additional spirit based mana regen) = 192 mana
15 (casts) * 0.1 (procrate) = 1.5 ppm but due to cap: 1 * 192 mana = 192 mana/min = 27 mp5 = 16 mp5
* Use effect: Innervate yourself with macro while buff is up. 1 time in 10 minute fight. Any other uses ignored. (!!!) Also I have not checked if you get bonus spirit on the buff from Living Spirit:
130/4.5 (spirit mana regen per 2 sec)/2 * 20 (sec duration) * 5 (innervate) = 1444 mana
1444 mana/10min = 144 mana/min = 12 mp5 (so 28mp5 together)
------------------------------------------
Summary:
Eye of Gruul: 11.25 mp5 (maximum effect!)
Blue Dragon : 27 mp5
Bangle of Endless Blessings: 28 mp5 (combined effects)
(15 casts/min)
Eye of Gruul: 30 mp5 (Rejuvenation Rank 13 spam in Treeform > only saving 332 mana per proc = 22 mp5)
Blue Dragon : 72 mp5 (since ppm is still only 0.8 buffs not overlaying is save to assume)
Bangle of Endless Blessings: 28 mp5 (capped ppm)
(40 casts/min - instants)
------------------------------------------
Pitfalls of this comparison:
* On one hand I assumed that you are in the 5SR throughout the fight, which is likely not the case. Of course spirit-based mana regen recovery through Blue Dragon and BoEB shines in this scenario. On the other hand one can argue that parts of a fight in which you are often not in the 5SR, are not that crucial anyway (from a healers perspective) and having 600 spirit will help you out there.
* This comparison is more useful for fights (or phases of fights) in which you put out some serious healing likely using Regrowth as well. That's why I assumed the maximum effect on the Eye (HT/Regrowth-Spam). If it makes a 100something mana cast a free cast the effect is greatly diminished. (!!!)
* I assumed non-overlapping buffs. This would be harder to model, but would lead to a problem only with the Blue Dragon-Card, due to the internal CD of BoEB and consumption of the buff by the next cast with the Eye of Gruul.
* You will be able to use the "Use" on BoEB a couple of times in a fight. You might innervate other players.
But still: Different strokes for different folks!
评论来自
78894
That would be nice, though i doubt it since the trinket says its a chance to proc "on cast" and most other trinkets i used with on cast procs didnt give increased chance on CL...
Maybe you were lucky, maybe its true... I'd love to see some confirmation on this
评论来自
36974
Horrible trinket for paladins, they will have a hard time taking full advantage of the procs and the passive 44 healing is easily replaced by
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28190
or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30841
评论来自
81484
its a shaman trinket imo. spamming chain heal gives it a 6% proc rate
评论来自
57812
How does this trinket work with Illumination, for Paladins? Say you have the proc active, and you cast a max rank holy light that ends up criting. Do you get 234 mana back (840 - 450 x .60) or the normal 504 mana?
评论来自
22868
well I use this alot because I am a tree druid and I cast a spell every second the GCD is up. 15 casts per minute seems pretty low to me for a tree druid who is casting mostly instant spells.
I have 800 spirit fully raid buffed so the bangle is more or less useless to me; as I already get a full bar from innervating myself without the need for the bangle. I use alc stone with the EOG and putting the bangle in there seems like a big waste. I also do not ever innervate other people. I have a BD card and decided to compare the two as best I could:
Eye of Gruul Proc Calculations from 9/19 WWS parse:
11 minute karathress, 5 procs = 2250; 204/minute or 17mp5
10 minute lurker, 5 procs = 2250; 225/minute or 18.75mp5.
tack on a +44 healing passive ability - here are the effects of adding +44 healing to TOL spells, (including TOL aura) for example:
a 435 Regrowth tick would be 441.
a 887 Rejuvenation tick would be 901.
a 217 Lifebloom stack of 1 would be 222.
a 652 Lifebloom stack of 3 would be 665.
a 1501 Lifebloom bloom would be 1522.
Edit: After using the blue dragon card all 9/20 to do this comparison, here are a couple of calculations from another WWS parse:
Alar - 17 minutes, 4 procs, = 6000 = 352.94/minute = 29.41 mp5
Gruul - 7 minutes, 1 proc =1500 = 214.28/minute =17.85 mp5
VR - 5 minutes, 2 procs = 3000 = 600/minute =50 mp5.
Maulgar - 4 minutes, 3 procs = 4500 = 1125/minute = 93.75 mp5
Is one better than the other? It depends on class & spec. I'm a spirit stacking TOL druid so these comparisons would have totally different results, I think, if I was not stacked on spirit.
评论来自
94695
I've heard this procs related to the number of people you "hit" with healing spells (like Circle of Healing) - can anyone confirm this?
评论来自
95957
Is it possible that it only procs when damage is actually healed?
That might explain why some druids that were testing it outside of combat were seeing terrible procrates, and others were saying it proc'd a lot while healing in raid settings.
Has anyone ever seen it proc off of a "tick" instead of the "cast"?
(I know the tooltip says cast, but we all know how useful tooltips are for deriving actual ingame mechanics)
评论来自
Shame
I use this as a resto shaman in conjunction with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28190
and I see the proc often enough to be a noticeable mp5 difference in boss fights. Chain heal gives this trinket a 6% chance to proc it seems, if it hits 3 targets.
评论来自
earlin
This trinket only shines on Holy priests using Circle of Healing and Resto shamans using chain heal.
If CoH hits all 5 targets, the proc rate is 10%, making it a very nice trinket to have.
If Chain heal hits all 3 targets, the proc rate is 6%.
For any other healers, 2% is just too low. Paladins/Druids can find better trinkets than this.
评论来自
39022
From a <tol> resto druid's perspective, any item, especially a trinket, that boosts your spirit / mp5 / intellect is not needed. The most mana efficient and most beneficial healing spells to cast are lifebloom / rejuv and swiftmend. Even without a Spriest / Shaman in your group, and while constantly casting, I find it hard to believe that druids are running out of mana even for long fights. Using mana pots on cd and innervate, i cant even drop below 40% mana. My druid is in SSC / EYE, but ive talked to many druids in BT and its the same for them. +Healing is the #1 stat and its the only stat a tree druid really needs. (Along with some stamina)
If your raid puts you in the main tank's group or a group that will take a lot of dmg, then spirit is useful to boost +healing, but it only goes that far.
P.S. Druids, give your innervate to a priest, you shouldn't even need it.
评论来自
jaxsonbateman
Well everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'm a pally that's just started T6, and from memory I got this on our second Gruul kill a few months back. Seeing as I'm constantly casting, I do see this proc fairly often. And sure, it may not proc at perfectly ideal times, but then, mana savings are mana savings.
While there are other trinkets I would prefer over this (Malacrass' trinket, Memento of Tyrande), this is still a good *mana conservation* trinket for the level at which you get it. If you want raw +healing this is not the trinket for you - but remember, +healing is not everything.
评论来自
112746
Just a question here, I just got this trinket on my paladin and I don't know whether to replace my
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28590
or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28190?
And also, does anyone know the proc. rate on this one and if it does proc. frequently or hardly?
评论来自
Feathers
Tree druid here.
Am I having horrible luck, or does this thing only proc on direct heals? I can get it to proc reasonably using Healing Touch or Regrowth, but I'm emptying mana bars trying to proc it with Rejuvenation or Lifebloom.
None of the previous posts have been clear on this one way or the other, and if I'm just unlucky I'll suck it up, but it'd be nice to know if this is worth keeping or not.
评论来自
179290
This is probably one of the best trinkets for a CoH priest. If you're doing a heavy amount of CoH this trinket has a chance to proc off of every person healed by 1 cast of CoH so if you manage to tag all 5 of the group that's a 10% proc rate.
I did some testing on a few Black Temple fights and used WWS to calculate the essential MP5 gained from using this trinket. Results for me were as follows:
Najentus - 49 mp5
Gorefiend - 80 mp5
Bloodboil - 56 mp5
Ess. of Desire - 88 mp5
Ess. of Anger - 144 mp5
评论来自
179290
Well since 3.0.2 they seemed to nerf this. If I read it right now that it has a chance to proc on every healing spell cast we go from a 10% chance to proc back down a 2% chance to proc, making this trinket crap again. =\
评论来自
170827
See
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37111
post 3.0
The trinket has been cleansed of its "epic" status (unjustly so) though 15% chance on the last boss in
normal
old Stratholme means getting a group to go through alone may make this new version as hard to get as the old.
评论来自
1057281
This item is dropped by Gruul himself with an 18% drop chance, it is also disenchant-able if your enchanting is 300+
评论来自
Draccar
Note to anyone using this in any of the MoP patches: the 2% chance can proc off things like Chain Heal jumps and every heal from Healing Rain.
评论来自
Crieve
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