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评论来自
lcbdeke
This is definitely the bulwark of the ancient kings. This is so good. But the stuff to make it take it are rare I think. I cant wait until I'm 70 and blacksmithing up to 375 so i can make it and then wear it. This is so good. and i hope this doesn't cost a lot to get the plans.
评论来自
nenoedrec
Insane amount of armor, granted its level 70 item but still almost as much as my rogue has in full nightslayer ><
评论来自
9787
This item is godly, great for tanking and dps not very many items that have a use for both alot of warriors are stuck with having 2 sets of armor one for tanking one for dps which doubles the cost of the repair bill.
评论来自
16008
Nether Vortex are raid drop items. and they drop only one at a time.
For the prereq item, Bulwark of Kings, it requires 10 Primal Nether, which has a 20% drop from the end of the lvl 70 instances, or a 100% drop from the end of the Lvl 70 instances on heroic.
Its not going to be easy, but it'll be worth it.
评论来自
5027
I have to ask actually how good this will be for tanking with the lack of +defense. The armor is amazing and so is the stamina, I don't argue that. Nor am I saying this isn't a nice piece of armor.
But since it requires raid items to make, I have to ask if this is something I would want to wear as a raid tank when I can get raid pieces with far more +defense.
Thoughts?
评论来自
reveal
Why is it that leatherworkers get to make a 3 part set ... and BS only get a chest ... :(
评论来自
33329
My real concern is whether the Use: ability shares it's cooldown with Last Stand. Anyone know? If not, that kicks ass. If so, then it's lame and I'm not sure I'm going to sink the mats into it after all.
评论来自
bbeckley
Question:
If you make this, and drop armorsmithing can you still wear it?
Reason i ask is, what if you take up weaponsmithing to make whatever can you still wear?
评论来自
Archangel
The cooldown on the "use" portion is 30 minutes. Do note that this buff stacks with Last Stand and Life Giving Gem.
评论来自
35454
an ideal dps plate piece, but also a good "stopgap".
doesn't mean that your MT should justify it as the reason to get all the vortex drops.
评论来自
Madness
Also there is added strenght, which means more % to block.
评论来自
reveal
Why is it that the Tier 3 piece Armoursmithing need only 2 Vortex's and the ones from Weaponsmithing need 20 !!!!
That is so unfair :(
评论来自
zomg123
Total materials for all Tier Plate armors are:
2 Primal Vortexes
10 Primal Nethers
10 Primal Manas
8 Primal Mights
6 Hardened Adamantite Bars
6 Eternium Bars
8 Khorium Bars
评论来自
62142
Does anyone knows if the use-ability on this chest is possible to use in Arena, or does it get greytoned as if it was a 30cd skill?
Sincerely V
评论来自
16226
When it increases your maximum Hit Point pool, will it then heal you for the 1500 hp too?
评论来自
relikpl
the fact that you cannot use this in arena wiped the smile off my face, this use-ability is one of the only serious pros of going armorsmith :L
评论来自
47567
Question:
If you make this, and drop armorsmithing can you still wear it?
Reason i ask is, what if you take up weaponsmithing to make whatever can you still wear?
Question:
if i make this and then drop 2 lvl`s can i still use it then or do u have to be in 70 :/
read the requirements next time lol
评论来自
96423
Is this piece viable for PvE? It does have a lot of stamina and a nice use, but it has no stamina or avoidance. I picked up armorsmithing in hopes of using it for tanking (like it was pre-BC when a couple dark iron pieces were BoP) and instead I get to pick between either weapons for dps or armor for pvp (btw as a prot paladin neither of those are desirable options).
Side note: Season 2 warrior chest has very similar stats and will take a lot less effort to get.
评论来自
86705
Personally I just made this for tanking (Nightbane has not yet dropped his chest, and my guild does not yet have the properly geared Lock's for Mag).
I find that with the amount of armor and stam on this, plus the fact that I am well beyond the 490 criteria (probably about 520 now) even wearing this, that it is unlikely that I will even pickup the T5 Chest.
Maybe if I have everything else and it drops when I have DKP to spare.
评论来自
47259
How does this factor in with tanking? My own blacksmither is a paladin, and while he's not up to the level yet, I have been looking at gear choices for when he DOES get there.
Quite frankly I'm somewhat lost.
评论来自
Khuzog
Something people arn't putting out either is the usefulness of this breastplate as a five man / Heroic / Karazhan tank. After having done the hardcore raiding circle I've finally started leveling up a new warrior to play with a small pool of friends.
I intend to go Armorsmith and while, sure, this breastplate dosen't have a lot of tank points outside of a bonus Last Stand and high stamina, I'm not looking to stack T6 style avoidance, especially since in the content I plan on running a lot, that'll leave me rage starved. Plus having access to Nether Vortices via Badges now will allow me to make the top of the line model as soon as I have the means to get them.
Just my two cents, not everyone reads these comments to see how an item will stack up against Illidan.
评论来自
71213
i'm sorry but if you use this breastplate for tanking your a complete moron. congradulations on wasting around 3k gold for your new "tanking" chestpiece.
It's obvious this is a fury warrior chestpiece. big hit rating and big critical strike rating and strength should tell you that by now.
>.< almost annoying as watching people tanking in gladiator gear.
评论来自
drbasic
Oh I do mean to that this chest piece is better just that botros is ignorant
Chestplate of Stoicism (100 Badges in new 2.4 Loot, the chest from Nightbane or Tier 4/5/6 is definitely better
The reason I would think this is obvious is that a Tank needs to stay alive and the best way to do that is through mitigation and not some 1500 health increase, gruul hits harder than 1500.
There are some good posts about effective stamina and yes Armor is a big part
but you need your block value, Parry and Dodge a good warrior spams his shield block on a boss and the shield value increase on tanking pieces will out do the armor increase and of course dodge and parry is 0 Damage instead of a 2k+ hit which is definitely nice in staying alive.
As for Aggro The shield value from a tanking chest piece increases your shield slam and that is giant aggro compared to the +hit.
This is a better tanking chest than any blue that I have seen socket it with +Dodge Gems to help you out.
So if you are in the boat of not having a chest piece from Nightbane or better this will get you through until then, it did for me. But swap it when you can.
Once you get your tanking chest re socket it with DPS Gems and you have a good dps chest for anything.
评论来自
TheMercenary
I use this every day on my PROTECTION specced warrior....gotta have some good gear for your dailies, including PVP!
评论来自
jpcesar
humm, everytime i see this item on a database, comments are talking about this item for tanks. This item can in fact be useful on some fights u need hit rating, and you dont want to sacrifice HP and Armor, lowering your avoidance a bit, BUT you should be focused on DPS when talking about this chest.
Pre-Blacktemple, and if you are unable to kill kaelthas on TK and unable to get season3 chest form arena points this is the best dps chest in game.
55.01 dps
54.49 dps
54.47 dps
So its onpair with T5.
Note: The magister's terrace heroic chest is inferior to this one.
评论来自
128900
just as Zerothelegend & Drbasic pointed out. this chest does have multiple uses. & until you get your hands on a proper tanking chest with tanking stats on it (dodge,parry,block rating / value..etc). this chest is viable for tanking.
stats on one side. the use itself is a life saver. for those who had the pleasure of obtaining the
Lifegiving Gem
from the old days. knows the value of the use on this impressive chest piece.
& as stats for dps. very few chests can replace this outside of Black Temple, Mount Hyjal. & even those are a hard comparison when counting in the use function (150 strength, stacked with every possible CD, will help out when you are trying to down that boss. on that last attempt of the night. on that last 5%~10%...).
& as for pvp. you cant take it seriously as a good pvp item (as mentioned above by Hopper. the use on it cant be applied in arenas..). but for those people who like to play Battle Grounds for a little fun or for the daily pvp quest. its quite nice to have. given again on the use & the nice stats on it.
so a question comes to the mind of alot people. "should i bother going through all that trouble of crafting this?"
yes, absolutely. i'm a tank in a BT,MH farming guild & when im not tanking. im using this mighty chest. ^.^
评论来自
104531
This chestpiece is very good for pvp too.
My warrior has full S1 gears plus this.
This one is as good as S3 chestpiece except for its lack of resilience.
Collecting arena gears can take very long time so it is very nice alternative for those who just started collecting S3 gears.
This chest piece actually has higher hit rating and crit rate than S3.
Only downside of this piece is that it is ugly..
评论来自
101243
In terms of effective health vs the Panzer'Thar:
1450 armor + 51 sta + 39 BV
vs
1825 armor + 56 sta
I'll take the armor.
Not to mention the threat this chest will help put out is pretty hefty, way overshadowing the threat from 39 BV...
The only reason you shouldn't use this over nightbanes chest is if you are not defense capped
. End of argument.
评论来自
153134
In my opinion, going Armorsmithing is now of more worth for PvE warrior since Dragonstrike lost its potential to easy-attainable badge fist weapons.
评论来自
166346
As a warrior that is def capped, with a good amount of avoidance, I find this is a nice chest to swap in for trash and heroics.
Shield slam is great for generating single target agro, but if you have to spam a bunch of devastates on a 4-5 pull, rage starvation can lead to dead healer.
评论来自
fendred
Something which I've noticed no-one has mentioned: the socket bonus. You're probably thinking, 'yeah, its just some crit, whats particularly special about that?' but the thing is, this is 4 crit, and it has a blue socket. If you look at any other DPS item, then look at their bonuses, you're going to find most have only 2 or 3 of what ever stat it is. Then look at the ones with a blue socket. Most will only have 2 of the stat.
What does that mean? If you're using rare gems, you can chuck a blue gem in this and lose no stats compared to a yellow gem. A 4 crit / 6 stam gem will give you the bonus, making 8 crit / 6 stam, whereas a 8 crit yellow gem will only give you the 8 crit. The purpose, of course, being to fill your meta gem's requirements (you should be using 12 agi 3% crit dmg, or, at the very least, the chance on hit haste one. Both require 2 blue gems)
The overall effect is still slight, but because of that one fact this (for my set anyway) has better raw stats than the S3 chest (this of course has the use effect as well). I would probably put S4 as higher than this, but that one requires the 1600 rating to get.
If you're like me and you try and get every last possible increase to your DPS out of your gear, keep the socket bonus in mind.
And, like Omgedozor said, I was actually leveling BS to make a weapon, but before I got all the way there, I noticed this piece (being awesome in itself) and the Vanir's Fists came out, so I went for this instead. (Vanir's Fists rock. You won't find better until the Warglaives. Unless you're the sort of fury warrior with access to Brutal weapons)
评论来自
98621
lol a built in last stand, 3sockets, +hit, +crit, and 40str which equal 80ap effects +sb rating/value, and add the +10% kings buff,
if you are def capped and need hit and more tps which is a lot of tank's case this is an excellent hybrid piece of gear..as is im 510 def with no def enchants or gems at all, saves a lot of badges for better stop gap pieces
评论来自
195828
I have seen and heard of a tank version of this breatstplate but cannot remember how it is made or aquired can anyone shed light on this for me please
评论来自
nathansoto
Is there any benefit to using this as a Paladin tank? I want to know if it is even worthwhile to make this item.
评论来自
51698
I have grinded my BS skills to 375 in order to get hold of this chest, but with the changes to talents, abilties, and gears introduced by 3.0.2, I wonder how viable a piece this remains for tanking purposes for a warrior.
Blizzard appears to have removed Defense bonus from a lot of items in order to give more Strength or some other stat bonus to help tanks generate more threat, and it looks like people who used to have met the 490 threshold now have to change their gears, gems, and enchants to achieve 490.
If I cannot make up 490+ from my other item slots, I may have to give this one a pass and wait until I can get hold of the
Panzar'Thar Breastplate
or the
Chestplate of Stoicism
.
Oh well, with the expansion just around the corner, I guess it doesn't really matter that much...
评论来自
73436
Is this worth it for a Death Knight tank? I'm sure for DPS, but i want it for Tanking as well. Any thoughts?
评论来自
Kapira
Oh I am VERY sad to find this recipe chain is no longer learnable, and all BoP so we can't even buy one off of someone :( Really hope Blizzard will bring these old recipes back someday...
评论来自
Garrogar
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王者壁垒
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列王壁垒
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板甲
15护甲
+3 [力量 or 智力]
+4 耐力
+4暴击
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插槽加成: +1 爆击
耐久: 165 / 165
使用:
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