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评论来自
17129
1% haste takes 15.8 haste rating, making this trinket add:
260/15.8 = 16,45% haste.
评论来自
Invis
Patch 2.0.7 newest patch, increases each haste point rating by 50%.
评论来自
19281
This does effect ranged weapon speed also
评论来自
15757
As of Patch 2.0.7, the Abacus of Violent Odds now adds 24.73% Haste for 10 seconds.
评论来自
jemima
Does this drop in heroic or normal?
评论来自
24847
Does this stack with hunter's rapid fire ability?
评论来自
24847
just got this, and yes it does stack.
评论来自
26896
As a Rogue this is awesome!
I use it with the set bonus from my Assassination set, and Slice N Dice, it takes a bit of skill to get them all going at the same time, but damn!
My weapon speeds dropped below 1.0 for MH and OH for about 10 sec!
评论来自
38991
id just like to say i hate pantheon, and this never drops :(
评论来自
Psychopath
It looks exaclty like slice and dice, when you activate it.
评论来自
45061
anyone know how long the cooldown on this is?
评论来自
46216
if you are a fury warrior using drakefist hammer only the proc and flurry give you 1.75 speed. activating this trinket and maybe a mongoose proc if you have it on both weapons results in serious damage. activate reck and you will really be a "deathwish"ed warrior. :)
评论来自
50874
Does anyone know if this haste works with feral forms for a druid?
评论来自
39907
I farmed Mech for weeks to get this on my 2H enhancement shaman. Finally got it after about 30 runs (first time I even saw it drop). Three more weeks until I can get my Gladiator's Bonegrinder, which I should be swinging at somthign like 1.8 seconds with this, Bloodlust, and Flurry. O lawd.
评论来自
59970
I am so pissed! Just dropped for me after my 30+ run... im 80% into revered and its the first time its dropped! A prot warrior won the roll over me... >_< Is this even remotely good for a prot warrior... or should I roll a horde and gank this guy over and over and over to get rid my pain?
评论来自
54074
i use this with Slice and Dice for my rogue, made a macro here:
/use Abacus of Violent Odds
/cast Slice and Dice
/stopcasting
trinket itself gives 24.73% haste speed
you get 54.73% faster attacks for 10 seconds with them both active, even faster if you have assassination armor set bonus ;-) (which adds 15.22% haste for 6 seconds)
very nice trinket, will last until i get bloodlust brooch
评论来自
36076
If I am a Mutilate spec rogue with this gear.
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Cenarius&n=Nochangel
I am thinking of replacing
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28041
.
I've been reading how haste stacks as gear gets better.
Your thouhgts?
评论来自
68263
Interested in haste?
Then here's a list of items that will get you lots of haste easily
Blackout Truncheon:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27901
-Drops from the semi-final boss in Shadow Lab
Drakefist hammer:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28437
-Only Blacksmiths (hammer specced) with 350+ skill can craft and upgrade this baby
Dragonspine Trophy :
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28830
-from Gruul the Dragonslayer in Gruul's lair, 25-man boss; very low drop rate
Abacus of Violent Odds:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28288
By the way, there's a soft cap that blizz has on weapon speed, you cannot drop below a 1.0 weapon speed for ANY weapon. Your tooltip may say 0.8 or 0.7 speed, but the faster you can go is 1.0. Thanks for fatmike for that.
And for rogues only .. any 2 pieces of the Assassination set:
http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=620
评论来自
Faxe
i think the reason theres the 1 sec minimum attack speed cap is cuz a troll with low hp and berserker racial buff, 2 assasination set peices, drakefist hammer MH, Blackout Truncheon OH, Dragonspine Trophy, slice and dice and this trinkets use and finally bloodlust (or what its called for draeneis) could get such crazy attack speed if he was lucky to get it all triggered, that only god knows what would happen if there wasnt the 1 sec cap..
评论来自
Kallikrates
I know, it was supposed to be the Swiftsteel Bludgeon sorry.
With the following Items it is possible to get exactly 1,050 Haste Rating (which equates to precisely 100%). Note: The Items Linked are for a Warrior because I was researching for my own.
Permanent: 253 Haste Rating
On Proc: 537 Haste Rating
On Use: 260 Haste Rating
Total: 1,050 Haste Rating (100%)
Head: N/A
Neck: N/A
Shoulders:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32570
Back:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32665
Chest: N/A
Wrist:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32568
Hand:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32608
Waist:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30915
Legs: N/A
Feet: N/A
Finger:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32526
Finger:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32526
Trinket:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28830
Trinket:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28288
Main Hand:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28439
Off Hand:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32943
Ranged: N/A
1,050 Haste is achieved with both the Dragonspine Trophy and Dragonstrike proccing at the same time and the Abacus of Violent Odds being popped.
Please mark down the other comment.
评论来自
68244
I have also read somewhere that you cannot go under 1s attack speed, even though the tooltip will show that you are.
评论来自
29170
When i used a crappy 2,0sword 1-3weeks ago i got it down to 0,7 normaly or something like that, so you can get it lower than 1sec attack speed
评论来自
18009
if wep. speed cant go below 1.0 then dagger rogues are at a severe disadvantage here... w/ all my speed boosts and everything i can get my tooltip to tell me my OH is at 0.54 speed... the normal speed being 1.5... thats almost a 300% increase in speed and essentialy white dps not to mention Combat Potency procs... now lets say a sword/fist/mace rogue uses the same abilities/pots/trinkets w/ a 3.0 speed weapon... he can get it down to 1.08... just above the "cap" (if there is one...) so the sword/fist/mace rogue would be at a solid ~300% speed increase while the dagger rogue is at a 75% increase to damage...
HORRIBLE
... the dagger spec is supposed to be the "raid/max dps" spec for rogues... this really throws things outta whack imo... i'd think blizz would realize this w/ the cap and decide against it... until someone can prove that the cap does exist... I just can't believe blizz would nerf dag spec this badly especially w/ the way they're trying to seperate the rogue weapon specs into different parts of the game
BTW-i hit .54 using:
Haste Potion
Abacus
Blade Flurry
SnD
Gruul Trinket
Assassination proc
Heroism buff
Mongoose
topped w/ an Adrenaline Rush you can BS as fast as the global cooldown allows for ~10-12sec... which is really fun when Curator takes 200% dmg...
Also-this would make haste useless for kitty druids because i believe their normal speed is 1.0... not sure on that, though as i dont play druid :P
评论来自
80748
im just wondering this trinket's cooldown time?who would tell me
评论来自
37463
I assumed that haste effects like this would kill the proc rate on Seal of Command, but I've been reading some people saying that haste does not reduce the proc rate since it's based of normal weapon speed. Can anyone verify?
评论来自
76755
Nerfed as of 2.2 =-(
评论来自
Mystikb4
Does this share CD with 'Kiss of the Spider'?
评论来自
60495
100% attack speed increase means that you attack twice as fast; 100% more attacks in any given time. Or a reduction of the 'melee cooldown' - the swing timer - by 50%.
Of course, haste exponentially diminishes because the swing timer reduction multiplier is 1/(1+haste%); at 100% haste, the swing timer is halved; at 200% haste, it's divided by 3; at 300% haste, it's divided by four, etc.
I only say this because when one looks at a "100% haste increase," you'd tend to think that you attack infinitely - or nigh-infinitely fast (approaching 1/0 from the right side).
In short, the haste mechanic percent increases are deceiving.
评论来自
37463
It just occurred to me that this would be really nice for a prot/ret reckoning paladin. As soon as reckoning procs, pop this and you'll be much more likely to get a third double-swing with your 2H. With reckoning being an 8 sec window, and three swings taking over 7 seconds (with two 3.6 sec waits = 7.2 secs), it's easy to miss the third swing if your first double-hit swing comes later than 0.8 secs after the reckoning proc. This speeds your swing to roughly 3.06 with a 3.6 weapon.
评论来自
90023
As a furry warrior this be one interesting trinket. With both this trinket popped and flurry active, the attack speed of a 2.6 weapon is brought down to about 1.6.
During a warriors recklessness/execute phase, a 1.6 speed weapon increases damage gained from executes done over time by %39 by suppling rage at a rate close to executes global cool down.
This adds an interesting DPS benefit to warriors that use slow/slow for the maximum benefit to whirlwind / flury procing.
(Not to mention the fat amount of AP and the haste proc with regards to white damage.)
评论来自
106757
It's pretty useful for a feral druid as omen of clarity can proc on every hit.
评论来自
113463
Comparing this to Core of Arkelos (easy to get green trinket with 200 AP for 20 sec activatable ability, and 52 AP)
Assuming 1600 unbuffed AP
Abacus of Violent odds:
64 AP/1600 AP=4% damage
260 haste=16.5% damage for 10 secs
Core of Arkelos:
52 AP/1600 AP=3.25% damage
200 AP/1600 AP=12.5% damage for 20 secs
since both are on the same timer, double the damage on arkelos activated ability (since it lasts 2x as long) to make them even=25% damage
25%-16.5%=8.5% damage
8.5% damage/(20/120)(this is the time for the arkelos buff over the cooldown, giving you the total average increase)=1.42% damage.
4% damage-3.25% damage (straight dps on both trinkets)=abacus better by .75% damage
1.42% (the damage diff on the activatables, with arkelos being better)-.75% (damage on straight increase, with abacus being better)=core is .67% better.
save yourself the trouble and get the core, the stacking might be nice, but its just another cool effect, and the AP is better, even if you have 2k unbuffed, its still better by at least .3% (i don't want to go thru the math, AND explain it to you, again)
If you have abilities that benefit insanely from +speed, more power to ya, but if not, the core is better for straight dps.
Core of Arkelos is better than Bladefists breadth, just take my word for it (BB is the other easy to get trinket at 60+) BB=1.something crit (1.2? 1.3?), ark=roughly 2-3% damage (depending on ur unbuffed AP), damage %=crit chance, so even with talent boosting abilities, ark is better.
Reccommended trinkets: hourglass of the unraveller and core of arkelos for pre heroic and kara 70s.
the hourglass is better than ark, see my post on that, and the ark is better than the other trinkets.
评论来自
60955
does this stack with troll racial ability? better question yet, wut doesnt this stack with?
评论来自
119239
won off last boss in normal mode had warrior and druid rolling with me lol but I won w00t bye bye ancient draenei war talisman.
评论来自
Sonic
Paladins, this trinket is fun with Seal of the Crusader and Latro's Shifting Sword. Makes for very fun and fast swings against foes.
评论来自
69115
Looks like no one has mentioned this yet.
When you activate the trinket, you do a punch animation, which is kinda cool.
评论来自
blah17
Anyone know what deal is with it's name?
Abacus of violent odds
I know an Abacus is one of those things you can slide the beads on for basic addition and subtraction...
How that relates to a WoW trinket which gives haste rating i'm not quite sure...
The "Violent" part is actualy the only bit that makes sense as far as I can tell
and "Odds" does bear a slight relation to "Abacus" in that they are both math related
since it does drop off someone with the title "The calculator" there is the recurring math-ish theme
I guess it's an
abacus
which lets you
violently
kill your enemies... and that's rather
odd
评论来自
54149
In a
rogues
point of view, with the right items you can reach abnormous heights when it comes to haste!
Not going into detail at this point, you have 25% passive haste. Gems and all. Your really pro.
Assume you use these weps and this trinket besides the rest of the passive haste gear you've got:
Drakefist hammer:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28437
Blackout Truncheon:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27901
Dragonspine Trophy :
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28830
Ok, now assume this happens:
- All 3 off em procc, leaving pretty exactly 43.40% haste.
- You use the Abacus we are chatting about, 16,50% haste.
- You got 2 piece Assas, when you Kidney/Cheap its 10.15% Haste
- Slice and Dice up, 30% Haste
- Blade Flurry up, 20% Haste
- Haste Pot used, 25.3% Haste
- Heroism, 30% Haste
- Doubble Mongoose procc, 4% Haste
- Drums of Battle is popped, ~5.3% Haste
Alltogether at the same time we can max our haste on a rogue to (unless ur haste is more then what i put as a standard output with the same trinkets and weps, shouldn't be easy):
Ca. 209.5% Haste!
That will last for about max 4 seconds if you ever manage to see all that procc, but so worth it.
with the weps chosen, with speed 2.70 and 1.50, I think the speed would drop to about 0.90 for mainhand and 0.50 for offhand.
(200% haste = , so its slightly more. like 0.85 mainhand and 0.47 offhand)
Edit: Feel free to comment if I missed a + haste factor from somewhere and I'll try to update :)
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