Since it has only dropped 3 times out of 1607 in Black Morass it's most likely wrong data.
There have been occurrences of multiple set pieces dropping from alternate bosses, I for one have witnessed 2 hunter pieces dropping from a single boss, one not on their loot table.
I wouldn't bank on the odds, but stranger things have happened.
8 runs and no tunic for me yet, rogue :(
I'm exhalted with COT and this tunic never even dropped b4.... is it really true it drops at BM???
Has anyone gotten this to drop off of Pathaleon the Calculator recently? I've gone on about 30 runs now and it still hasn't dropped once. I started at Sha'tar Friendly, and I am not Exalted. I've only done Mech runs and I haven't seen them once. Please Confirm!
28 agility is .7% crit at 70
I know this is important for crit rogues when comparing items.
the drop rate is not 13.4% fuckd up i did this run over 30times, 2-3 times a day for a month. :) and till this moment i just finished mechnar a minute ago, and still didnt drop. maybe the drop rate should be lowered to 8%
I've ran Mechanar so many times I'm nearly exalted on both of my 70's and have never seen this drop. My rogue is at a count of upwards of 30 without this dropping. =/
Odd, First run I got my Tunic. Confirmed drop.
You can save yourself a lot of trouble and simply run Blood Furnace (non-heroic) to get Vest of Vengeance:
The difference, going from Assa to Vengeance, is +11 hit, -3 stam, -1 agi, -12 stam, a yellow instead of a red socket, and no setbonus. It's a 1 AEP upgrade, not counting the set bonus.
I am 60+ runs into this place, (exalted plus revered) rep or so, and still havent seen it drop. It is my personal mission in life to get this chest piece as its my 4th piece for my set bonus. If it werent for it being my final piece i would've given up a looooong time ago.
I actually prefer chestguard of no remorse from the first boss in steamvaults.
If you're still using the Chestguard of No Remorse at lvl 70 then you need an upgrade. Ask yourself this... do you see any of your leet lvl 70 rogues on your server still sportin' the Chestguard of No Remorse? Probably not and it's because they sure as hell know through experience that the Tunic of Assassination is more versatile.
There is no IF. The Chestguard of No Remorse IS a lvl 68 item and the Tunic of Assassination can ONLY be acquired at lvl 70. That is a fact and if you're sitting there saying "if" then you obviously haven't done the instances to get these items and it proves you aren't legitimate enough to give an opinion.
At lvl 68 or 69 then No Remorse would serve it's purpose but when you hit lvl 70 then there are plenty of chests you should be aiming for including the Tunic.
BTW, most rogues at lvl 70 will be stacking AP so they'll be using Bright Living Rubies upping the AP to +24 adding that to the +dodge and +armor. I don't see many rogues stacking crit over ap and furthermore stacking stam for PvE but this is always debatable because it really depends on your spec.
As far as dodge goes... it depends what you're referring to. Dodge is VERY important for PvP and not so much PvE. So, that's just another moment you prove your inexperience.
Agil is always the priority stat to stack and that's why Blizz makes Agil for rogues apply to 4 stats (ap, dodge, crit, and armor).
Anyway, suit yourself if you want to stick with No Remorse at lvl 70. Every rogue on your server that's lvl 70 is probably like... "been there done that" and has their Chestguard of No Remorse sitting in their bank just like myself. I'm an item set collector and I'm working on getting the entire "Blue Rogue" set and the Assassination set. So, far I have 3 of both sets but the Liar's Cord and No Remorse don't get that much attention from me but my Cowl of the Guiltless gets some playtime every now and then. I'd rather wear a 2-piece Assass with set bonus and Socrethar's Girdle or General's Belt.
In case you don't know what I mean by "Blue Rogue."
Part of the blue rogue t2 reskin. No set bonus.
-Head-Cowl of the Guiltless-
-Shoulders-Mantle of the Unforgiven-
-Chest-Chestguard of No Remorse-
-Bracers- Armwraps of Disdain-
-Gloves-Gloves of the Unbound-
-Pants-Leggings of the Unrepentant-
-Boots-Boots of the Unjust-
Tunic of Assassination>Hauberk of Karabor>Chestguard of No Remorse (even the Chestguard of the Darkstalker is in the same league as No Remorse and requires lvl 69 to equip.)
Username - Krizzone
Faction - Horde
Race - Undead
Realm - Anub'arak
(check my profile if you want but I have about 4 different item sets that I switch on a daily basis depending on what I'm doing)
Example: I have Mennu's Legs, Assassination Legs, Nomad's Legs, Fel Leather legs, Retainer's Legs and so on. I think I have some gizmo on my head right now so I really avg about 1575 AP 200 Hit and 30% Crit for PvE.....for PvP - 1500 AP 110 Hit 29% Crit and 240 Resil.
but in your own post you show that crit is greater on the ToA (41agi/39agi >1%) then the CnR(21cr/22cr < 1%) that increases the dps significantly, and you your self said dodge isn't on the scale fo importance, well then you must be playing a PvE rogue where Stamina isn't worth that much either. Your not suppose to be getting hit remember?
Your socket choices sucked, oif you don't care about dodge then put 3 * 8 agi gem's in there now your rocking 49agi and 103ap and your CnR starts to look crappy.
How about these gems:
glinting noble topaz: +4 hit and +4 agi (red/yellow)
inscribed noble topaz: +4 crit and +4agi (red/yellow)
Jagged Talasite: +4 crit and +6sta(yellow/blue)
Shifting Nightseye: +4agi and +6sta(red/blue)
with those gems and a hatred for the +4 dodge Socket Bonus(not on the scale of importance) you can get alot of interesting combinations:
+12 agi and +`18 sta(this one scores you the +dodge rating and beats CnR in Stamina OMG)
+12 crit and +12 agi(out crits CnR big time)
+12 crit and +19 sta(yeah more HPs and look my crits are higher then CnR)
or my personal favorite
+12 hit and +12 agi (+hit adds more damage per point then +crit any day, just don't get the cool crit effects)
The reason the ToA outdoes the CnR is because ToA is versatile and any rogue with about 80g(less or more by server, friend, and professions) can make what they want out of it.
Add in any 1 of the other 4 really nice gear pieces and you get 160 Haste rating everytime you CS or KS! (thats approximately 15% speed increase for 6 seconds) that means you 1.8 speed daggers just became 1.5 speed daggers and instead of 3 hits in 6 seconds you just scored 4 hits in 6 seconds per daggers. I don't know about you but for 6 seconds my white DPS went up by 25%? continue on to the fact that my usually grind is CS>Mutilate>KS>Mutilate>envenom Dead, I stay inside that buff almost the entire combat.
Now heres the kicker take a look at
and tell me that doesn't almost out do the ToA.
I just got this chest, I did so many runs of Mechanar that I hate the place, I have many friends help me do runs, both heroic and normal, it fell tonight on the worst heroic run I have ever done, cost about 60 gold in repairs!!! But it was worth it I have this before
and then I got this
but the poster above is correct the vest Of vengence is close, but not close enough when your lvl 70 and doing raids, your expected to have the best gear for your class and this is the best pre raid gear I think, maybe I am wrong, if so please tell me.
I´m using 2x16ap and 8ap 6 stamina. even though the stamina doesnt contribute too my dps it does help.. a dead dps is a poor dps. keep that in mind, its a fine line (: gifv new chest btw! my last blue : /
btw, the 8ap, 6 sta gem also gives me the gem bonus, which always is nice. you arent in raids alll the time..
Does anybody know why is this tunic much worse than
even though ilvl is the same :s
That's ignoring sockets because they both have 3 sockets. Given the set bonus on top of this it is still a pretty decent upgrade if you can get it, but the Warden's Hauberk is surprisingly close for something you easy pick up and wear in your low 60s. You don't even have to wait for it to drop.
Same skin and colour as
Fumblub's Seat Cushion
It would look better on me
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