评论来自 Rifkin11

Had this drop today and watching for it to proc. Cute little red whelp spawns and does a red breath and then sits down (sometimes goes to sleep) and then de-spawns. It is possible for it to proc straight away, as early on I had two spawn together.

评论来自 NagisaStreams

Edit: This was all written pre-release I didn't have too much time to look at it. There is now a full wowhead guide about it. You are better off reading that.

Used it and it said

"(Name)'s Ruby Whelping looks at (him) with tired eyes, yawns, and falls asleep.",

The trinket has a 1 day cooldown on this mechanic, and while it did nothing this time, it may do something on subsequent tries. I will write back if I find anything.

Edit 2: Second day, did the exact same thing as above. Both times were out of combat, I will try it in combat next time
Edit 3: Nothing was happening until days later, it said "(Name)'s Ruby Whelping belches, and gives a hearty grin as smoke rises from his nose." this was in combat. My damage meters did not pickup any damage however, so not positive it does damage.
Edit 4: "(Name)'s Ruby Whelping dances around gleefully with a devious look in his eye"

评论来自 Caelus

BIG UPDATE: It's been discovered how this trinket works (sort of) and it's different from what we thought.

While in combat, this trinket procs random spells and stat buffs.

Damage spells: 高射火焰新星 does AOE and 火焰射击 does single target.
Healing spells: Curing Breath and 红色雏龙（疗愈吐息）.
Buffs: 红色雏龙（红翼之下） buffs Haste and 红色雏龙（昏睡红玉暖意） buffs Critical Strike. Buff is a significant number for 20 seconds.

The on-use:
You train your whelpling for 6 days. You get 6 "training points" you can divide among the different spells, listed above. Once you're at 6 points used, you can stop training the whelpling, or you can keep training to move points somewhere else. Progress is bound to your character, not the trinket.

The current training modes we have found:
Fire Nova (AoE): Fire elementals in Azure Span, AoE target dummies in Valdrakken
Fire Shot (ST): Any other hostile NPC
Curing Whiff (ST heal): Friendly NPC/player
Mending Breath (AoE heal): AoE healing target dummies
Crit Buff: Yourself with 2 or fewer healable allies near you
Haste Buff: Yourself with 3 or more healable allies near you

You can have a maximum of six points in all training modes combined; if you retrain after this, the highest mode will lose a point.

You can freely upgrade, vendor/unvendor, get a second shell, and the training mode will remain the same.

At 6 points, the whelp is almost fully consistent, and will do its action ~90% of the time, with the associated mode the remaining 10%. For Fire Shot, this associated mode is Fire Nova.

We still lack the following info, which we hope to solve with data:
Whether the associated mode trigger is based on outside factors (lust, other mobs, adds,...)
What the relative proc rates between days of training are and how they change

Macro to see which spells you have your points in:
/run for i=2148,2153,1 do V=C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(i); print(V.name.." - discovered:",tostring(V.discovered)..", quantity:",tostring(V.quantity)) end

I had 火焰射击 at 6 points from my testing, and it hit usually only once per boss fight, equaling about 1% of my damage, with a small chance to also cast 高射火焰新星.
IMO stat proc is the way to go. You don't get to choose when spells cast so an AOE spell can cast when you're against 1 enemy and not when you're against 25. At least with a buff you can always make use of it.

When using it, your whelpling will indicate which spell you trained:

Targeting no one/yourself: Ruby Whelpling looks at you with tired eyes, yawns and falls asleep.
Targeting a single-target enemy: Ruby Whelpling belches, and gives a hearty grin as smoke rises from his nose.
Targeting an AOE enemy: Ruby Whelpling dances gleefully with a devious look in his eye.
Targeting single-target ally: Ruby Whelpling bites his lip, then gently blows a cool breeze that whisks away.
Targeting AOE allies: Ruby Whelpling inhales a large amount of air, and lets out a long, relieving sigh.

评论来自 Necromorta

Another item to keep in my bank forever. :)

评论来自 alpanhell

I really like this trinket. Not only can this whelp hit very hard but it can also give you a powerful heal.

I wish this arrived later in the game so you didn't replace it so early.

评论来自 Ne0s59934

Not only is the proc chance insanely low
but the damage it deals is so ^&*! its unbelievable
maybe its helpful to tanks and healers but dps wise its bad bad

评论来自 Solovrinne

was talking to some of the SimC guys and the current theory is that the on use actually does nothing to affect the different procs the dragon can do. the on use may be just be related to some secret finding thing that is undiscovered.

they think the dragon is just a standard random roll between the 6 procs (fire shot, fire nova, crit buff, haste buff, mending breath, curing whiff)

based on my experience with the trinket i am inclined to agree, the dragon seems to do whatever it wants.

overall this trinket looks terrible. the 1.01 unhasted RPPM that chooses between 6 different procs, 2 of them being just a heal, is so random and swingy i would find it hard to justify ever using this trinket over another option. if you could somehow tell the dragon to stop healing people then maybe.

评论来自 zalt

Like others mentioned, it triggers based on what you selected while activating its on-use effect.
It seems to use currencies to track what is selected, where the ones you used the most will proc more often.

For me, only the currencies' discovered and quantity properties seem to be changing.

To check what is currently selected, I made a macro to print them out:
/run for i=2148,2153,1 do V=C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(i); print(V.name.." - discovered:",tostring(V.discovered)..", quantity:",tostring(V.quantity)) end

I main healing, so had mostly an ally selected when activating. "Curing Whiff" was on quantity 5 yesterday, and after selecting an auctioneer it put "Mending Breath" on 1.
Today I targeted an enemy mob, which set my Curing Whiff back to 4, Mending Breath still on 1 and put Fire Shot on 1.

Small test set and can only use it once a day. Yesterday it did seem to proc the currency on 5 to proc about five times as much as the other one, but could be a coincidence.

Edit, a few more days and a few more tests later:
All of these currencies have a max of 6, but the max of 6 is for all of them combined.
The on-use currency change does not seem to be first-in-first-out, because I tried Fire Shot for 1 day and after using it on an ally the previous selection was subtracted again.

I'd still like to know what the exact 6 different targets are (always needs a target).

Fire Shot (damage) - Enemy npc
Lobbing Fire Nova (damage) - ?
Curing Whiff (heal) - Friendly player
Mending Breath (heal) - Friendly npc?
Sleepy Ruby Warmth (buff) - Yourself?
Under Red Wings (buff) - ?

Probably a neutral npc in there...
Also, I didn't check at the beginning, but it likely just starts out at 0 and the first on-use is 1 stack -- as several people are mentioning the low procs when they just got one.

评论来自 ShadowSear

Ok, so I got this Trinket, like, a week ago on my Warlock, and I've been deciding to use the proc effect every day when it's up (when I remember to, that is). When I first got this Trinket and used it only once, I rarely got the Whelp to spawn. However, after using it about 5 times (I forgot to use it a few times, so maybe it's about 3 or 4) I start getting the Whelp to spawn way more often, and sometimes multiple times at once (I've had 3 spawned at a time. Side note: not from the same spell) the effects they give are still random, however I believe that each time you use this Trinket, it increases the chance of the Whelp spawning. I could be wrong about this however and could just be getting lucky with its spawns. I'll have to do more tests to confirm or deny this theory.

Edit: did a run through Halls of Valor after another couple uses of the Trinket (trying to get Eye of Skovald) and I feel like the Ruby Whelp now spawns way more often than when I first got the Trinket. Procs between if I get the Ruby Whelp to deal damage or boost my stats is still random, but I would say I got it once every Minute or two, and have even gotten two whelps out at a time from different spells. I'll have to do more testing to confirm this theory, but I do believe that the more you use the "use" effect of this Trinket, the more likely your whelp will spawn.

Edit 2: Used it again. Can confirm 1 thing: previous theories/comments were right, that depending on what you're doing when you use it DOES effect what the Whelp will be more likely to do. HOWEVER, after getting the proc, like, 3 times in 5 spells, I can safely assume that the more you use it, the more likely it is for the Whelp to spawn.

评论来自 Jdodge1305

In my opinion, this trinket is trash, at least for a healer. I replaced the Primal Ritual Shell (Water) at ilvl 379 for a 395 Ruby Whelp Shell. I made sure that it was switched to healing and ran a dungeon. Comparing the two from runs, the Primal Ritual Shell healed in a 14 SBG (24:58 time) proccing 42 times for 3.4M (including 940k over), while the Ruby Whelp Shell in a 12 CoS (25:19 time) only procced 8 times for about 800k (including 670k over).. Combined with it's damage of 162k total for the run, again absolutely NOT worth it for a healer. I'd rather lose the miniscule damage and full ilvl, than lose 2.5M healing over the course of a run. If this trinket is supposed to be viable, it needs some serious buffs!

评论来自 Kurtosis

How to train your Ruby Whelp: https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-train-your-ruby-whelp-shell-very-high-damage-or-stat-trinket-330947

评论来自 AIVD

My findings up until now indicate the following:

Target a friendly player/NPC and have 2 or fewer friendly players/NPCs in a 6 yard radius around the target > ST Heal
Target a friendly player/NPC and have 3 or more friendly players/NPCs in a 6 yard radius around the target > AoE Heal
Target a neutral/hostile and have 2 or fewer neutral/hostile units in a 6 yard radius around the target > ST Damage
Target a neutral/hostile and have 3 or more neutral/hostile in a 6 yard radius around the target > AoE Damage
Target yourself and have 2 or fewer friendly units (players, NPCs or pets, not cross-faction) in a 6 yard radius around yourself > Crit
Target yourself and have 3 or more friendly units (players, NPCs or pets, not cross-faction) in a 6 yard radius around yourself > Haste

WIth help of the Bear Troupe discord.

评论来自 electronbluetwo

I got a 296 ilvl version of this from a quest. It's supposed to be 80 STR over Queensguard's Vigil but it only bumps me 8 str when I equip it.

评论来自 phoenixsoap

Iz's Ruby Whelpling flies upward with a look of determination.
For the Under Red Wings proc

I'm able to get this reliably in the Valdrakken Inn by using it on the lower mote in the fireplace as described BUT the motes dart around. So it only works if you stand in between Erugosa and let both motes get close to you before you activate the shell

评论来自 Pacounet

Is there a way to sim all the fully trained version?

评论来自 krucufy

so, i did a mythic and the shell dropped but i was already wearing one. could not trade it with other in group and it reset to 1 day cool down. one in my bag and also one i was wearing

评论来自 Jmgrainger

i currently have 4 points in the haste buff and 1 in the crit buff. When healing myself and the friendly target dummies in the pvp area, i noticed my haste buff sometimes procced on the dummies.

Im not sure if the crit buff does this or not, but the language of the buff seems to possbily indicate crit applies to you only and that the haste buff may be able to hit allies instead of you.

For example, the haste buff , whether on me or the dummy, said "shlamorel's whelping blah blah blah"
The crit buff on me simply said "the dragon blah blah blah"

Also im not sure if this is intended or not. But given that the haste buff is trianed with many allies around, and the crit one is trained alone/with few allies around, i think it's possibly intended.

评论来自 Oakie

Any way to get this after you've deleted it? I thought it was completely worthless...

评论来自 tarheels1979

The "Under Red Wings" will also train while standing in Emberflow in the Waking Shores. Just happened to me.

评论来自 Mexvt

Has something happened with the Ruby Whelp Shell Trinket? It feels like it got nerfed or something since it rarely procs anything for me. I've got one on 2 characters and trained my whelpling for AOE on my prot warrior and it almost never procs. Now I'm trying to use my evoker to work on a single training dummy for raid boss rotation practice, and even though I trained it to proc single target it doesn't seem to do anything.

Didn't know if I missed a patch note or something.

评论来自 leguis

Hey! Just wanted to know if training him in more than one thing is gonna interfere with the number of procs of the other skills. ty

评论来自 asraelCT

Just ran 7 mythic dungeons of different levels as a resto druid. Not a single proc from this thing. Its trained to Level 6 AOE heals. Either its not showing up on my meter or its just flat out to procing--no way for me to tell, but never once saw its AOE heal. Time to replace the stupid thing.

评论来自 Mellowbrain

Ruby whelp ilvl 398 6/6 in lobbing fre nova.

Two runs:
19 sbg 30min:
Fire Shot - ST damage x1
Lobbing Fire Nova - aoe damage x17
Curing Whiff - ST heal x2
Mending Breath - Aoe heal x3
Sleepy Ruby Warmth - secondaries peoc 12s x4
Under Red Wings - secondary proc 12s. x1
Total casts 28. ~1ppm. 65% aoe damage casts.

Different runt AV 16 30min:
Fire Shot - ST damage x1
Lobbing Fire Nova - aoe damage x12
Curing Whiff - ST heal x2
Mending Breath - Aoe heal x3
Sleepy Ruby Warmth - secondaries peoc 12s x1
Under Red Wings - secondary proc 12s. x2
Total casts 21. 0.7ppm. 57% aoe damage casts.

Need more testing and more runs, but from these two it looks like you start with 4 out 10 possible uses. The first for will proc randomly 0.4 times as much as a fully trained whelp. Meaning at best you'll get an average of 60% of the casts you actually want with a fully trained dragon.

There are posts pointing towards your whelp will casting 90% of the ability you trained it lt in(although very low and short time frame was used for that) But to me that doesn't seem to be the case.

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