This idol used to be --> "Reduces the rage cost of Maul and Swipe by 3."
In 2.0.3 it was changed to --> "Increases the damage dealt by your Maul and Swipe ability by 50."
In 2.0.10 it was changed to --> "Increases the damage dealt by your Maul ability by 50 and Swipe ability by 10."

Currently, a very lackluster idol compared to what you can get in TBC.

評論來自 yutt

The previous ability of this relic was:
Equip: Reduces the rage cost of Maul and Swipe by 3.

The updated version is no where near as useful. :/

評論來自 10757

when was this changed? I had mine drop last week and it has the "equip: reduces the rage cost of maul and swipe by 3" on it?... very odd.

評論來自 Merowlin

It got changed from "-3 rage on maul and swipe" to "50 damage on maul and swipe" in patch 2.0.3.
Bad change IMO, the previous version was great for tanking (of which blizzard has stated is one of the primary roles for Druids in BC).
We can only pray they add a new "-rage cost" idol.

- Merowlin

評論來自 Alar

I agree that this idol was nerfed bigtime. The reduced rage cost was amazing. In fact, I spent about 15 runs in UD strat primarily for this idol in its OLD form. In this new form, I almost want to just throw it away.

If you happen to get it, great. If not, dont go hunting for it because it really isnt very good.

評論來自 11511

This idol is still good for bear form. With crits at level 67, with crit rate at 28% I keep spamming swipe while tanking - swipe crits goin for 450+ ! Great for aggro, great for damage. My favourite idol

評論來自 23388

New patch notes for Patch 2.0.10
The bonus to "Swipe" from the "Idol of Brutality" has been reduced from 50 to 10.

評論來自 Thottbot

just dropped for me from magistrate barthilas in Strat UD. woot!
i think it's great for tanking, in longer fights the rage save is nice.

評論來自 Thottbot

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/484/stratholme9ba.th.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stratholme9ba.jpg

This looks the most effective way..

* Enter though front gate A
* clear 5 groups of skelletons and 3 nub patrols
* go though the locked gate marked with a blue dot
* Fight though i think it is like 5 more skelleton groups aswell as a few other nubs
* Kill Magistrate
* loot
* Exit back entrance
* Repeat as long as it takes

評論來自 Thottbot

Compared to Idol of Ferocity is pretty spectacular. 3 rage >> 3 energy. This is THE idol to tank, and pretty spectacular, specially considering it's not epic.
Can't wait for an epic feral idol!
And let's hope they introduce a new balance idol, poor moonkins!

評論來自 Thottbot

Found this idol in Undead Strat, in the chest behind Magistrate Barthilas (just before the abomination room).

評論來自 Thottbot

Dropped last night in Strat UD. I'm full resto, but I'll definetly use this when soloing, every little bit helps.

評論來自 Thottbot

just got mine. dropped off a non elite trash mob in the emberseer's room in UBRS. i was the only druid and i'm a hybrid w/ feral instincts.... WOOT :D

happened to be the OT that raid as well...and the rage saving is frickin' AWESOME.

--Winterwine Blackhand

評論來自 Thottbot

I'm a rogue.

Steamrolling the Alliance in AV, I was finishing off the last archer in south bunker as our team was clearing the aid.

On FFA per usual, I see it is BOP. I ask in raid for a druid to come to my position in south tower. I ask again... and a third time. Finally, I go through the team list and find... of 35 people on Horde, not ONE druid. I sat on it watching a few new players come in, thinking how much SOMEbody would love this; no druids.

When raid leader said Vann at 50%, I picked it up and sprinted in for a few hits. Vends for about 1g 80s.

I've seen a few blues drop in AV, but this is the first BOP I have ever seen.

評論來自 Thottbot

i also got mine as a random drop of a mob right outside of Lights Hope. I'm probably send an emil to bliz and let him know if he doesnt already know about the random drop. i really wish he would change it to boe.

評論來自 Thottbot

Does Magistrate Barthilas in Straholme drop this anymore ? have tried soooooo many times now.... =(

評論來自 Thottbot

I got the idol from the Magistrate last night, and then it dropped again from The Razza (one of the Dire Maul arena bosses) today.

So if you're going to make repeated runs for the idol, do keep hitting the Magistrate, but be aware that it also shows up elsewhere from time to time.

評論來自 Thottbot

According the WoW Bug Forums, the fact that this Idol is BoP is a known bug. Hopefully they'll fix this quickly and they will be correctly marked Bind on Equip.

評論來自 Thottbot

Here is the milliondollar question. Since Idols are in the spots where guns use to be, and you can easily change weapons during battle. Can you change idols when you shift? I mean there are a ton of add-ons that change your gear for you when you shift, how awesome would it be to get the benefit of both idols! I currently am only lvl 50 and have zero idols so I can't really test this :(... Anyone want to give us some feedback?

評論來自 Thottbot

How to get?
Dropped for my druid twink just yesterday.
Following the strategy posted above, we entered Strath through the front gate and cleared the way to the Magistrate near the side entry (5-8 mob groups, weighing speed against safety). Got him to drop on our 4th run, 3 druids in group but they decided to give it to me. Lucky me! =)
Oh, got the city key, too =D
*edit* Dropped again right away on the next Strath Run, makes me believe Thottbot is rather wrong about the drop rate */edit*

Stealth run?
Stealthing to him is definitely impossible - even if it wasn't for the stealth detection, in cramped passages the mobs will certainly notice you stepping on their toes trying to pass by. You'll also have to unstealth to open a gate.

Soloing?
Same goes for soloing; the Magistrate stacks an enrage on himself as the fight goes on. The longer it takes, the harder he hits, as his self buff seems to stack (SpellAlert stated it stacked to 14 until he fell to our group of 4). Even sporting >10k AC you certainly won't survive long enough for your bash to cool down. A group of 4 should do fine, 3-man it if you're up for the challenge.

Useful?
Mathematically, the reduction from 10 to 7 means 43% more rage when using maul, 25% more rage when using Swipe. For every fight there is a break-even point between your AC/Dodge, DPSout and DPSin at which you can use Maul and/or Swipe on every attack. Endgame tanks often knowingly reduce their AC in non-raid instances to gain enough rage to pass this mark. Once you get your hands on this idol, you'll probably never worry about rage generation again. Ever.
It's certainly rather pointless when tanking raid bosses (the DPSin guarantees endless rage), but farm runs are much more fun now.

Conclusion
This is for a bear tank what a ZHC is for a mage, and way easier to get!

評論來自 Thottbot

Idol of Brutality has been changed in the last patch. It now increases damage done by Maul and Swipe by 50.

評論來自 Thottbot

This sounds like a monstrously good idol for any feral tank. 50 more raw damage on swipe would be huge considering its a major part of our tanking stratefy and that it lands for 110-140 depending on your AP. 50 extra dmg on maul is still pretty good.

評論來自 Thottbot

At lvl 70. If you choose your paths well, you can stealth past all the trash - even the ones that can see through stealth. When you get to the gate, just shift to humanoid form and open it. The mobs won't notice.

Edit: don't need to stealth! I did stealth past the boxes of rats, but between the groups of mobs, just used regular cat form, no stealth. Apparently the aggro radius of the stealth detecting mobs is wider when you are stealthed than when you're not, so it was easier to just walk between them to get to the magistrate.

Got my idol on the 5th run.

評論來自 Thottbot

Hit 70 yesterday. I have never been to Stratholme with my druid so I didn't have the key to the place. Took the long way through Strath LS, the gate with the rats (fetched nasty disease -10% dodge), then right were the boss spawns which actually dropped the Wildheart Gloves. Didn't use stealth, at 70 you can walk right past the mobs if you hug the wall. The bossfight was a bit longish, healed myself ones and finished him when I had about 30% health left myself. And wonders can happen, the idol dropped on my first try. I was actually prepared to do Runs the whole morning.

評論來自 Thottbot

Lvl 70 druid here. I got this last night after 4 resets with a 70 priest friend of mine. Make sure you bind nearby (Light Hopes Chapel in the event you need to reset the instance, you cant just walk out way you came in)

評論來自 Thottbot

For previous message. You don't need to bind LHC. For the reason that you can use exit which is to the right of Magistrate.(he drops key to the city, so you can use the door)...As for drop rate, i think i really sucks...i sepnd 3 days looking for drop and i don't have it yet...also because of limitation of dungeon runns.hope to get it today:)

評論來自 Thottbot

...and by the way...if you are feral druid and level 70, it is easy to solo Magistrate. Just play wise...it take less time for each try, then if you have a friend(unless your friend is another druid or rogue). My killing strategy: use Enrage then i am waiting for 5 seconds and use Fairy fire. When he is in melee range use bash and for 60 seconds make as many damage as it possible with mangle and maul, after bash is ready use it, change from bear to normal form and heal yourself while running to the building with some NPC(i use 3 lifeblooms and rejuvination) then just kill him:) Have fun and good luck with looting

評論來自 Thottbot

How good is this compared to Idol of the Wild, at 70?

評論來自 Allakhazam

Got this from Gurubashi Axe Thrower, seems to be a world random. Amazing idol imo.

評論來自 Allakhazam

0 for 7

評論來自 Allakhazam

whaddayaknow

nothing for 13-14 runs

then they drop on two consecutive runs, after a guildy druid had passed on it the first time since I did all the research and legwork to set up the runs... so he got his too on the run after I got mine.

評論來自 Allakhazam

I too got mine off Magistrate Barthilas. First kill since 1.11 for me and I hadn't even known this was added to the game. I was happy.

評論來自 Allakhazam

As an update..

This still drops from the Magistrate in UD Strat.

Magistrate can be solo'd by a level 70* Druid.

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* Magistrate may very well be soloable before 70. I killed him 9 times solo at level 70 before I got the Idol. (1/9 drop rate for me.) Very few times did I have to shift out to heal myself, and those were only the first two times I faced him and when I backed into a stupid crate with buggies.

A level 70 can enter UD side (if you have key) and go the entire way to where Magistrate ran to without having to fight any monsters, aside from the "trap" area where you have to Barkskin + Hurricane a million little bugs. And I don't mean prowling there.. I mean in caster form. (Those pesky undead and their ability to smell you!) Pre-70, however, you may be required to kill some groups, as some areas don't allow much room for error. At 70, the groups are a joke. Lots o' swiping, and the job is done. Just be wary of pats.

評論來自 Allakhazam

Dropped off Magistrate Barthilas in UD Strat.
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot0620062330291dh.jpg

評論來自 Allakhazam

0 drops

ton of wipes on the first one

real good on second

new tank on third... ok.

did get Hearthsinger's piccolo for one of the druids though, only it's the guy that won't stop with the Chuck Norris jokes... watch out next MC raid.

Edit: Don't bother trying to stealth this (except maybe around the last corner). Them ghouls or w/e see through stealth.

Edited, Sun Jun 25 02:09:36 2006

評論來自 Allakhazam

Got this thing from Zul'Gurub today, Edge of Madness, think it was a demon or one of those troll priests standing there who dropped it. I had heard it only dropped in Naxxramas, so it was a nice surprise. Got Foror's Eyepatch later that run, both for minimum DKP, since nobody else wanted them.

One happy feral druid I am ^.^

評論來自 Allakhazam

So I have this item inside of a lockbox(believe it or not), Was wondering how much it might be worth on the trade channel, since it is BOP, but is still inside the Lockbox?

評論來自 Allakhazam

the damage bonus of this item will be nerfed to 10 (in words: ten) in the next patch. blizzard's seriously gone insane

評論來自 Allakhazam

1 for 14 or 15 or so... kinda lost track

Works good afai can tell, but it was one hell of a streak, first trying with a bunch of druids and then figuring out that I needed to lure non-druids into doing runs with me... preferably guildies or ppl with vent capability and good gear for less wipes and more speed.

1. Abomination Stitchings drop almost every run.
2. Corruptor's Scourgestones - Balzaphon alone drops 2, EVERY TIME. use this fact to get ppl.
3. AD Rep - appr. 220 per run for me at barely Honored (the runs got me to Honored).
4. Xp... as a last resort - or thereabouts - you can get ppl with lvl 55+ alts to come along. Find someone lvl 59 and they'll love it.

Good luck. No video from me of this thing, to common of a pull and he's there all the time, so it'd just be boring.

Edited, Jun 30th 2006 at 2:39am EDT by goteborg

評論來自 Allakhazam

I am still a bit confused about the drop locations. One boss drop and looks like a trash mob or two? So its got the drop rate of a random BoE, but is BoP? Can a few others confirm where they received this item please :)

評論來自 Allakhazam

This dropped for me on the first kill of the magistrate since 1.11. I also have the idol of ferocity. Too bad I'm specced for restoration!

評論來自 Allakhazam

was 9885 .63%
is now 9935 .68

50 new kills, .05% diff

I'm not much good at math, though I once was (AP Calc back in public H.S. 1991).

So I kinda tried to figure it out the Navy Diver way:

Kills_________%total__________drops
9885__________.63_____________~62.2755
9935__________.68_____________~67.558
50 new kills__?%____________~5.2825

5.2825/50 kills = about 10%-ish, and there's no point going to a decimal since this is all conjecture anyway, and I don't believe it was exactly 50 new kills.

I've killed Magistrate 14-15 times after patch and got the idol the last two drops, which is well within the bounds of any reasonable way of looking at the droprate after the patch.

Ergo, I propose we call the drop rate somewhere around 10%. Give or take 1-2% is my bet.

Edited, Jun 30th 2006 at 11:20pm EDT by goteborg

評論來自 Allakhazam

One question comes into my mind: Is Magistrate Barthilas soloable? :)

評論來自 Allakhazam

Just got this on 12th kill solo. Confirmed it is now 50 damage to maul and 10 damage to swipe.

評論來自 ReelJV

Any idea on how to tell what phase of classic this will be available in?

評論來自 Rahresh

Can any Classic player confirm that this item is available in Phase 1?
Magistrate Barthilas is already in the game, but is this item on his loot table right now, or will it be added in later phases? If so, which phase would it be?

評論來自 Lomkail

So at what Phase will this be available? Other Sites say Phase 5. But here and in Atlas Loot its marked as Phase 6

評論來自 pimpindacrib

Confirmed available in phase 5.

評論來自 derasnan

Not sure why this is a broken page...
Hopefully a site admin will see it and fix it.

評論來自 Lyariana

The strategy quoted below from 2006 still works!

Run in through Live side, kill the packs of Cadavers & Skeles and turn RIGHT.
Then, go through the two locked gates, kill 2 / 3 more packs and head to the side gate. Oh, look! It's the Magistrate!
Kill the pack right by the UD entrance and pull the Magistrate into the corner where they used to be. Remember he throws the tank around, so back up into a wall.

We ran 3 times before it dropped, so the 2% drop rate quoted in Atlas loot is either wrong, or we got very lucky.

評論來自 Djuntas

So, im farming it at 68 atm. 23 kills still no relic. I suggest you do this not before 68 due to aggro range.

What takes the most time is just instance lock out. Also you haft to get the key, if you dont already, which means getting help with a mage friend to pull the boss from the undead side with blink etc. Or do a normal run to get key, and master loot/reserve the key ;)

Anyway, just avoid aggro range/stealth detection / cages that breaks stealth and eye of naxxaramas. @#$% still hurts, at least at 68 with decent tank gear for feral. And again you go living side, then turn through the first gate on the right entering undead side

My pull goes: Starfire>moonfire>regrowth>reju>lifebloom>kitty rip>bearform for rest. Some-times I dont go cat form, other times I even do it twice if I feel like being risky.

Also shadowmeld could work great in here if your Night elf.

Edit: 34 kills and I got it.

評論來自 druid2025

Phase 5 released a few days ago on 20th anniversary. Can confirm Idol of Brutality drops of Barthilas. Got it after 4th run. Any suggestion of phase 6 is old info or wrong.

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