When to break 4pc Tier9?

Сообщение от Marzipanglue

My guild have just started really getting into ICC, we've pretty much got the first 4 bosses sorted and will be downing them everyweek (Hopefully).

That means there is gonna be alot more gear passing through, been looking at rawr and trying to compare the different bits and pieces.

Main question is when is it ok to drop 4pc tier 9? only for 2pc tier 10?

Armory

Got my eye on:

Boots of Frozen Seed
Mag'hari Chieftain's Staff

(Couldn't work out how to link them)

Сообщение от Eleazer

I don't know much about Elemental gear, but I do know this you have 2 pretty useless glyphs since you have t9 set bonuses.

Glyph of FLame Shock and 2pc t9 set bonus are the exact same bonus making your glyph pointless. Glyph of Totem of Wrath is a must have.

Glyph of Lava Burst is only valuable when you don't have 4pc t9 at which point it is less valuable than Glyph of LB.

Basically you have been hampering your dps by attaching two glyphs that are overriden by your set bonus. :P, It's okay, my guild's Elemental Shaman finally figured it out, he was stuck at 5k dps for a long time when I finally asked his glyphs. He switched and jumped over 6k on the next ICC 25 raid. He has since replaced his t9 set and has reglyphed FS and LvB

Your 3 main glyphs should be Totem of Wrath/FS/LvB - FS is only good if you don't have 2set t9 bonus. LvB is only better than LB if you don't have 4pct9.

Сообщение от Marzipanglue

Glyph of Flame shock is identical to tier 8 set bonus.

GoFS - The periodic damage of your flame shock can now be critical strikes.

2pc Tier 8 - ^^As above^^

2pc Tier 9 - Increases the duration of your flame shock spell by 9 seconds.

And in regards to the Glyph of Lava, i went by elitist jerks who said

"This is an additional 10% co-efficient bonus for Lava Burst, stacking with Shamanism for a 87.14% co-efficient (up from 57.14% base, 77.14% with only Shamanism). However, due to the frequency of LvB use, the effectiveness is diminished. This glyph should only be used if you have 2t8 (as Glyph of FS would be redundant) or 4t9 (see notes in set bonus section)."

If/when i break by tier 9 bonus i will replace GoLava with GoToW but for the moment i'm pretty happy with them.

Thankyou for the quick reply tho!

Сообщение от Eleazer

Сообщение от Marzipanglue

haha, thanks got my tier sets mixed up. ;p. There is a pie and it is now on my face.

Meh, np mate, you made me think for a few mins tho, had to nip over to wow to check.

Сообщение от Hashshashins

As mentioned before you are right to use glyph of flame shock but I disagree with what was said about glyph of lava. From the information I could find glyph of lava only starts to equal the dps of glyph of ToW with the 4set when you reach 3k SP. Before 3k glyph of ToW produces more dps. I am sure that is accurate information but if someone proves me wrong I will be more than happy to admit that I was.

Сообщение от Marzipanglue

Currently i'm sitting at just over 3k SP with flametongue, ToW and Flask so i thought that GoLava would be a good choice.

I checked on rawr tho and it listed GoToW higher than GoLava so i might change it and see if it affects my dps any.

Anyways back to the original question,

When to break 4pc tier 9?

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Сообщение от Marzipanglue

Please don't take this staff away from the druids, priests, mages and warlocks. They can all use that huge amount of spirit on it, you can't. I'd be justifiably annoyed if that ws given to a shaman instead of one of the other classes.

Abracadaver is far more suited to you than Mag'hari Chieftain's Staff is.

I'm just going by what Rawr says is a better upgrade for me, Abracadaver is good but Chieftains Staff is better.

Currently don't run with and druids/mages so it's just two priests and a lock that could want it. We have the first wing on farm now tho so i'm sure it we'll see it drop quite alot.

I will listen to any suggestions for Main/Offhand Sets that drop from ICC tho.

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Сообщение от Marzipanglue

Ignore Rawr for a second and just take a look at the stats on both staves is the only thing i can say.

OK, i think i've been getting too caught up with theorycrafting tbh. Just used the basic Item Comparison on here and compared the two next to each other.

Wasted Spirt - Wasted Hit

Spirit i won't find a use for, Hit I might do in future.

When you look at it so simply it makes sense.

Thankyou, lol. now i just need one of them to drop.

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Сообщение от Marzipanglue

Why did you waste frost for the spirit cape?

Because it was an upgrade.

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