Fire mage vs balance druid and shamans (suggestions pls..)

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Сообщение от Edimmu

well, with balance druid, do you both start stealthed? IF yes, try to find him in the first 10 sec of invisibility, then spam flamestrikes. if you find him prowling, poly and hardcast pyro. If not (or cancels aura), breath him and hardcast pyro. Pop mirrors, be offensive, keep living bomb on, if you managed to get a pyro off, try a coc+fire blast to get combustion up, spellsteal the HoTs, blink the bash/roots, try to sync mage armor to break it for you while solar beamed, trinket the clone, frost nova the treants in general.
The key is to get a good combustion, and getting a counterspell on starsurge preferably, these 2 most of the times means you have won. If not, try to get him locked out on nature school on a wrath or regrowth (or if he's in lunar, you might wanna eat few juke-wraths). Kite him during frenzied regen, make him ragestarve. You can breath him during starfall, save block for cauterize proc to get a free 40% heal.
These will help you, although a good moonkin will just start a duel already in solar, shrooms popped, and blow you up so fast that you can barely notice that cauterize procced:)

As general advices, counterspell the nature class to prevent healing, start in invis, keep mage armor up, and be offensive, try to get a good combustion early up. Enha is different, kite him, use mage armor to pop speed as much as you can, and try to force a shamanistic rage before you combust, or it's gone.

Overall, depends alot on the enemies, and what is proccing.

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Сообщение от Nathanyal

Instant cast flamestrike so you can knock him out of prowl. Do it before invis wears off so you don't get pounced on.

When they say 'breath' they mean dragon's breath on them. This will daze them.

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thehehehehe, I should be ashamed about saying poly a druid, just thought they are beasts, was kinda a general strategy in my mind:) they are immune to it idd, i'll go find a showel now:P
well, just Дыхание дракона him, if they don't trinket it, the 5 sec disorient will give you enough time to hardcast the pyroblast:P (hardcast means casting it for 3 sec, since they are disoriented they can't interrupt you, save coc for when he's not cc'd)
I meant dragon's breath the starfall, will suppress it, and that's a good time to spellsteal the hots. Also i'm used to dragon's breath before hardcasting pyro to avoid being locked out of fire,they might go bear/cat and skull bash you otherwise, but you can see that coming. Imo you should save the counterspell to interrupt a cast, to lock him out. It's not mandatory to talent instant flamestrike, but I find it's worth it will all those stealthers/hunters in camo/nelfs around, up to you.

And about shadow priests... well... Last time there was something about being unable to sw: death the dragon's breath, but they still have the upper hand against you, they can mass dispel combustion (or disperse it if silenced), fade the nova, and spam flash heals while locked out of shadow, so that will be a hard one:P

Fire mage vs balance druid and shamans (suggestions pls..)

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