Can of Worms: Is marriage necessary anymore?

Сообщение от gnomerdon

What if i told you that my wife has to be beautiful for me to even remain with her? Until she hits 40... seriously. I feel that beauty also plays a role in love.

Сообщение от Atik

What if i told you that my wife has to be beautiful for me to even remain with her? Until she hits 40... seriously. I feel that beauty also plays a role in love.

As do I.

But I say, unless you are married to have kids, you should not be married at all.

Сообщение от gnomerdon

hah. i'll buy u a mug and we'll finish a keg. same thought as me.

Сообщение от Skreeran

Even if she has a body like this? :(Reminds me...

Сообщение от Jubilee

Even more relevant

Сообщение от Skreeran

Even more relevantloooooooool

Сообщение от 207044

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Сообщение от Atik

I'm sorry...

It's harder say that hoe didnt answer her phone lets kick her to the curb.

Really?

If I read that right, that is why you wouldn't want kids with your girlfriend...

REALLY?

Сообщение от xaratherus

But past that there is no purpose honestly I have been considering just getting a tax/insurance break wife lol.

I actually have a two sets of friends - two men and two women, all four homosexual - who, because they could not legally get married in their state, said, "F*** you government, you're shelling out!" and cross-married - one gay man to one lesbian, and vice versa. If When homosexuals in the United States can enter into a legal union that offers the same benefits, they're going to divorce and remarry their real partners, but until then the tax breaks were worth it to them. :P

Сообщение от Azazel

Wow, that's a pretty awesome idea.

Сообщение от Atik

Just going to say this again:

People who only get married for the benefits are scumbags. Gay or straight.

Сообщение от Patty

Just going to say this again:

People who only get married for the benefits are scumbags. Gay or straight.

If they're doing it out of protest for the system, that's not the same as just doing it because it's in their culture to sponge as much money from the state as they can, no?

Сообщение от Atik

But the only reason they want to marry homosexually in the first place, from what I read, is for the benefits.

Сообщение от Patty

But the only reason they want to marry homosexually in the first place, from what I read, is for the benefits.

I very much doubt that. Getting married not only gives you tax breaks and advantages in several western countries (I can't really speak for elsewhere), but it's also a symbol of love and affection for eachother. Furthermore, the idea of marrying your true love is still rather engrained in society. Besides, I think the main point about the economic advantages for getting married is that straight couples are entitled to them - so why the hell not homosexual couples? It's a matter of inequality for many rather than "oh, well, I want a tax break lol".

Сообщение от Atik

I don't think marriage should have any benefits, personally.

I see no relation between marriage and love. I can see how it makes a more stable base for building a family, but other than that i is just chaining the person to you because you don't trust them enough to remain there out of love.

As I have been saying, it is obsession. I would much prefer a world without marriage....

Сообщение от Patty

I don't think marriage should have any benefits, personally.
But the point remains - if there are benefits for the wedding of one community, why not for another?

I see no relation between marriage and love. I can see how it makes a more stable base for building a family, but other than that i is just chaining the person to you because you don't trust them enough to remain there out of love.By proposing to somebody and then marrying them, you are telling them you love them so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them. You also show a great deal of trust with your partner - the trust for them to say 'yes' and in return want to spend the rest of their life with you.

As I have been saying, it is obsession. I would much prefer a world without marriage....Well, arguably, love itself is an obsession, or can become one - regardless of marriage.

Сообщение от 240140

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Сообщение от xaratherus

But the only reason they want to marry homosexually in the first place, from what I read, is for the benefits.

No, that's absolutely incorrect, Atik. They want to marry their partners because they are in love with them. They also desire the benefits. But since they cannot marry their partners, they refuse to be denied the benefits because of the discriminatory practices of the government, and so they cross-married - i.e., gay man marries lesbian friend, gay man marries lesbian friend. As soon as same-sex marriage is legalized, they will marry their partners.

I see no relation between marriage and love. I can see how it makes a more stable base for building a family, but other than that i is just chaining the person to you because you don't trust them enough to remain there out of love.

And because you don't see it, it can't exist, is basically what you're saying. That's a pretty arrogant and presumptuous statement.

I can tell you this: My parents have been married 37 years now; they made that commitment out of love, because it's how they chose to live. If you can't see the validity of that, that's fine - but it makes you look ignorant to disparage that bond simply because you don't understand it or would not choose it.

You claim that people who marry only for benefits are scumbags. Let me be equally judgmental: Those who are so presumptuous as to think that the way they live should be the model for everyone are scumbags.

Or perhaps you should live and let live, since you're rendering judgment on relationships that have no bearing on your life whatsoever?

Сообщение от Atik

But the point remains - if there are benefits for the wedding of one community, why not for another?

There shouldn't be any at all. There is no point for them. If a couple is already struggling and can't support a child, they are probably already recieving many of out far-too-many benefits and need to learn to cut back.

By proposing to somebody and then marrying them, you are telling them you love them so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them. You also show a great deal of trust with your partner - the trust for them to say 'yes' and in return want to spend the rest of their life with you.

But by wanting them to propose to you, and by saying yes, you are showing you do not trust them.

Why do you need proof that they will remain with you? Doesn't that simply show that they really won't?

Well, arguably, love itself is an obsession, or can become one - regardless of marriage.

And marriage only makes it worse by giving people a legal way to chain someone. Our culture has rolled them into one and they need to be seperated.

No names, but I can love a girl AND obsess over her. They don't need to be the same thing.

Or perhaps you should live and let live, since you're rendering judgment on relationships that have no bearing on your life whatsoever?

Except it DOES have a bearing on my life. Guess whose taxes help pay for those benefits...

Сообщение от Adamsm

Guess whose taxes help pay for those benefits...They pay the exact same taxes you do.

Anyways: Depends on your own personal views; as a bastard, guess I don't have the best view about it, especially after seeing the relationship between my mom and father, then my mom and stepfather both explode over the last 20 years or so....but I'm not actually jaded about it heh. A marriage is the final bond between a couple, one that shows they do want to stay together for the rest of their life, and only want to be with the other.

As for the homosexual marriage topic: I just again, insert the joke about how the gays should be just as miserable as the straights when it comes to marriage, and other then that, I still say let them marry and those who object should get their heads out of business that has nothing to do with them.

Can of Worms: Is marriage necessary anymore?

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