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1.	Redemption
2.	Of Forgotten Memories
3.	Of Lost Honor
4.	Of Love and Family
5.	Of Love and Family
6.	Find Myranda
7.	Scarlet Subterfuge

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Comment by 1437

Live Strath, Archivist's Room.

Comment by 460

the painting is on the right wall when you walk in after Killing the Archivist. Should look like 3 moons I believe. just click on it and take your painting.

Comment by Thottbot

The painting is deep within the instance and you definitely need a group to do it. Prior to the last patch, you could be in a raid to do it, however since the patch you can only do this with a 5 man team, making it vastly more difficult to do.

I'm at this stage and hope to put together a group ASAP, because I want the reward!

Comment by Thottbot

http://i38.www.wowhead.com/classic/Interface/Icons/INV_Chest_Plate09.jpg

Ornate Adamantium Breastplate
Binds when picked up
Chest Plate
807 Armor
+22 Stamina
Equip: Increased Defense +15.
Sells for 2 Gold 25 Silver 19 Copper to vendors

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=17848

Comment by Thottbot

it is in the archivist's room on the right hand side when you enter. The room right before final boss on scarlet side.

Comment by Thottbot

Well... I 5 manned both scarlet and UD stratholme before, but I didnt have this quest :(. I want that cloak, too. I did it with a priest (me), a druid, a warrior, a mage, and a hunter. I was suprised at how well we did. We killed the baron on our first try and didnt wipe once in the UD side.

Comment by Thottbot

solo'd as a 60 rogue (without engineering) its the hardest thing ive ever had to stealth but it can be done with a lot of luck, just have to hope and prey there are only 3 mobs guarding the two doors (sap blind prep blind open vanish) and that evasion works well enough to loot the painting while the archivist tries to hit you :D

Comment by Thottbot

Don't go that way, go in the UD entrance and stealth through market row.

Comment by Thottbot

the other day i got all the way myself. even though i entered throug main entrance. i didnt go through market thingy ... you just gotta "jump" the stealth detecting mobs ..

Need:
Preparation (always good if something goes wrong)
loads of limited invulnerability potions
Magic dust (sleep) .. loot rom lvl 18 mobs in westfall (lol)
some destraction (barov trinket, target dumm you name it)

what you do is : when you see a stealth detecting mob / group of mobs you just find a place nearby to unstealth. you shoot the mob / group . when they run for you , you drink potion and activate sprint and when you run out of their agro range you vanish .. that way you pass the groups. when you are inside the building its cake. even opening the door. sap mage, cheap shot monk, run to door, drink potion and open door , vanish ... cake! ... then go to the last guy where tha painting is , activate distraction (trinket) and that should buy you time to loot the painting. i didnt have trinket last time i made it to the painting therefore i didnt get it but im sure i can do it next time ..

gl ! :)

Comment by Thottbot

Basically, and Yes I have abused this to get my seal of the dawn, and the deed that the barov guards and the frost whisper guarded tarren mill deed and even abused it in BRD cause my team went chicken, all you have to do is be the leader, then kick/have everyone leave, then wait 20 seconds, and then you technically in your own instance. and you free to do anything you want including quests. You can even re-invite people once you are done.

Comment by Thottbot

it seems the trick to pickup quest items in a raid group after everybody has left and you're the only one in the raid doesnt work anymore as of the last patch
message "you leave the raidgroup" comes immediately and you're unable to pick anything up

Comment by Thottbot

Hi. tonight i searched a group to go to strat. i ( hunter ) finally got a lvl 59 rogue a lvl 56 warrior a pala and a druid booth 60. it worked realy good.

Comment by Thottbot

If the quest doesnt have a sign saying "(Raid)". you cant do it in a raid. Its only doable in a party which contains of not more than 5 men.

The thing about leaving the raid when it ends, take leadership and disband group or whatever, and then take the painting doesnt work anymore.

To do this 5 man you need a highly experienced group. Its hard to find such group when doing "LFG" in either Ironforge or Orgrimmar. Best to chose guildmates who you know you can cooperate with.

Best set-up would be:

Priest who is disc/holy
Warrior who is protection speced
Rogue with high DPS
Mage with high DPS
Anything except priest or warrior.

Most important of all: All must know their class! If you do like this the quest will be so easy!

Comment by Thottbot

Its easy to do it just dont pull and have a mage/rogue/warrior/priest/druid feral+healer or 1 more warrior.sheep/sap and use range weapones for pulling.

Comment by Thottbot

Could someone please comment on the whereabouts of this guy to turn in the quest?

Comment by Thottbot

Whatis the problem ppl it rly isnt hard to 5 man at all.

Comment by Thottbot

Lot of comments on getting a group to 5-man this. You should be near 60 if you are running this anyway - how did you get that high and not make any friends? No guildmates? I am not a social person, but... I know enough people to get a good group together or get one scheduled pretty much anytime. All I can say is go out - meet people, make friends - its a MMPORPG. If you get in a PUG with a good player - stay in contact with them. Just drop a "hi" once in awhile when you pass by them, drop them a "hey _____, Im getting a group together to ______, wanna come along?" - so they remember who you are. Keep doing things like that, be nice, be respectful and - poof - you start getting a competant group you can run with once in awhile. Just my opinion - ok back to the quest.

Comment by Thottbot

Here's what the painting looks like.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q30/king!@#$erchicken/painting.jpg

Comment by Thottbot

I am just a bit disappointed that this interesting quest line, which can be easily soloed on 5 of the 6 steps well before level 58 required for the dungeon, requires the getting together of a group to go into scarlet (live) Stratholme ....a dungeon very few people go to any more since the expansion came out.

Yes, at the same time as doing this quest line solo could maybe be in hellfire penninsula instead, but I have never been in Stratholme, and did not plan on going since the expansion...now, to follow this mission, I need to get a solid enough group to get to the second-last fight (if I understand correctly the order of the encounters).

From what little I have read of the outland quest lines, very very few have any kind of interesting back story or depth involved....they are just flimsy excuses for 'phat lewt' that puts most MC/ZG/AQ gear to shame. This one and the Darrowshire quest trajectory seem very involved and interesting, irregardless of the (now) inferior quest rewards.

Must have made sense to do this at one time in the past...prompt people to go to dungeons.....now it is most unfortunate that the 'old school' dungeons (Scholomance, Stratholme, Dire Maul, Blackrock Spire) just are not at all interesting places to visit for the vast majority of players.

Fingers crossed to find some guildies/others who have a hanckering for some old time dungeoneering!

Comment by Allakhazam

Aight, here's whatcha do. The painting is in the Archivist's room, directly across from Balnazzar's room, and on the right wall as you walk in.

If you're in a 5-man, simply hit it after the Archivist and his buddies go down, and you're done.

In a raid, it's a bit more complicated.
1) Beat Balnazzar (duh), this causes Scourge mobs to spawn all throughout the bastion.
2) There is one set of mobs between Balnazzar's room and the Archivist's room after Balnazzar dies, have your raid kill them. If you're a rogue or a druid, who is level 60, you can skip this step and stealth past the mobs (more at step 3.5) DISCLAIMER: With the patch and true sight added to numerous Stratholme mobs, you may not be able to stealth past, I advise doing it the main way to be safe.
3) Ask to be given leadership over the raid, wait for everyone to leave the instance, and once everyone but yourself is out, let everyone leave and/or kick any stragglers.
3.5) *For druids and rogues only, others go to step 4* The mobs will probably detect you at any lower than 60 unless you have Nightscape Boots, Improved Prowl, MoD, etc. If you pass them safely, and are lower than 60, you run the risk of aggroing them while you chip the painting. To avoid this, position yourself as far away from the door as possible while still being able to hit the painting, as described in step 4.
4) Hit the painting, it chips it and reveals your other painting (although you do not need to loot the real painting).

This worked before the most recent patch prior to this date, I haven't tested it to see if it still works. Enjoy.

Comment by Allakhazam

As of 1.8 this does NOT work

Comment by Allakhazam

just do it the way it's supposed to be done - in a 5 man ... none of this "leave raid, dance naked in ironforge, throw rocks at scarlet ppl" crap. It's not even hard ...

Comment by Allakhazam

think its on the way to the postmaster

Comment by Allakhazam

The room that the painting is in is opposite of the room where Balnazzar is.

Comment by Allakhazam

well from the 1.6, i've tested a solo run through strat.

Without mod (0/5) you just can't get through the first mobs, even though you are 60.

Suck

Comment by Allakhazam

where the hell is this? didnt see any "painting" anywhere to my way to balnazzar

Comment by Allakhazam

As of 28.09.05, being leader in a raid and being the last person in the instance and group *does* work.

Comment by Allakhazam

Five man it. I agree -- if you need to raid it, you don't deserve it.

<grin>

Five man runs are fun anyway -- makes it more exciting when adds drop by.

Comment by Allakhazam

What is the Reward ?

Comment by Allakhazam

the guy that needs the painting called Tirion Fordring is at cosmos 7.43. those who hasen't cosmos. he is in EPL almost at the cave over the bridge that leads to WPL.

Comment by Allakhazam

anyone think i might be able 2 open it when i leave the raid group fast pickup the painting and go into group agina?

--> thansz

Comment by Allakhazam

where the hell is this? didnt see any "painting" anywhere to my way to balnazzar

Comment by Allakhazam

As of one of the latest patches, this quest can only be completed in a non-raid group of 5. The painting is in the Archivist's room on the wall. You can only 'open' it in a non-raid group, to collect the item.

Comment by Allakhazam

Damn it... 1.9 doesn't work if you reform as a 5 man or be the last person in the raid

Edited, Sun Jan 15 22:52:02 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

if it brings a smile to my face, i deserve to see it! if anyone else agrees, heres how the painting look like: http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/9338/ofloveandfamily7mt.png

Comment by Allakhazam

wheres quest (A)? cuz this is quest (B)

Comment by Allakhazam

It's in the room WITH Archivist Galford. You loot the object like a chest- not like that other guy said. 05-09-2007

Comment by Allakhazam

*double post*

Edited, Wed Sep 28 05:25:59 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

If you have to do this in a raid, you don't deserve the armor award at the end of the quest. We just 5-manned live Strat liast night, without anyone who had MC gear. It isn't hard. Unfortunately, I was this far along the chain, but still. If you have to raid this to get there, you or your group sucks.

Comment by Allakhazam

If you get to the room opposite Balnazzar's room in a raid group then leave group and reform party with only 5 or less members you can complete the quest.

Comment by sandreid87

Follow-up quest is: Find Myranda.

Comment by CarcinCZ

On the other side of the Balnazzar room in the Scarlet part, there is a painting. More people can loot it.

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Of Love and Family

Travel to Stratholme, in the northern part of the Plaguelands. It is in the Scarlet Bastion that you will find the painting 'Of Love and Family,' hidden behind another painting depicting the twin moons of our world.

Return the painting to Tirion Fordring.

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The painting... It hung on the wall of my workshop - inside the Order's barracks - for years.

After Tirion's trial was over, I knew that I could no longer keep the painting visible. I hid it in a place that they would never think to look.

Travel to Stratholme and make your way deep inside what is now the Scarlet Bastion, search for a painting of our twin moons. Chip away at the paint until you uncover my master work, 'Of Love and Family.'

May the Light guide your actions.

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