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Comentário de 8161

Aside from the stamina, this item isn't that great, for a feral druidhttps://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=20194 have way more armor than these, rogues would rather prefer the Defilers shoulders also.

Comentário de Thottbot

id say its for feral druids, bear form mostly

Comentário de Thottbot

Good item for feral druids.

Comentário de Thottbot

Several items in BWL so far have been clearly aimed at Feral Druids. Just because the item drops there doesn't mean it should nessecarily be used there.

Comentário de Thottbot

There are 2 other Taut Dragonhide items, gloves and a belt. The gloves give 20 stam/20 int and mana regen, so obviously for druids. The belt gives ap and dodge(i think).

Comentário de Thottbot

If you are a rogue and you think these aren't good you have a skewed eye for gear. Stamina and Attack Power are two very important stats. Arguably the most important after you to a certain point with your crit.

Most Molten Core rogues have DW Spec. This puts +to hit near the max with precision. Nightslayer Shoulders give +to hit and stats marginally better than Wyrmtongue. Bloodfang gives +to dodge, with almost a single crit, and 25 attack power. Both give about half the stamina Taut Dragonhide offers. As well as about half the attack power.

Awsome rogue shoulders.

Comentário de Thottbot

I do not agree Cantor, sure this item could be nice on a rogue but I think they were created only to support alternative builds. There are some Items which were added to push feral druid Items to an epic state.

A Feral Druid has a focus on bear form and the main stats are strength(AP), evade, HP and armor.

And please... a rogue does need HP and Armor but it is not a mainstat. A rogue's aim in PvP is to kill fast weak targets and not to survive 5 minutes during a fight.

There are some Items in BWL which are really designed to satisfy alternative druid build players.

-malfurion's blessed bulwark with high armor, HP and Strangth(AP)
- and the taut dragonhide series with its gloves supporting casterform abilities and the shoulders and the belt supporting bearform and survival abilities (high AC, AP, HP and evade).

In my opinion it is not the druid who has to wait until every rogue has it, but vice versa!

This is druid loot, of course not for PvE, but there are many PvP Servers where players have to find their equip also by doing PvE.

Comentário de Thottbot

These shoulders are ranked n�2 (on rogue armor charts) after Deathdealer Spaulders (in 1.9), for rogue usage, even over Grand Marshal, Bloodfang and Nightslayer.

Worse, they rock for PvP as they have no agility...no dodge...ATK power, Stamina and Crit % is the aim at PvP, add %hit to PvE and that's the best you can have, these shoulders have 2 of the 3 more important stats for me, and in large amounts...

I know they are cool for droods, I think it they are open for drood dkp bids too, since rogues have 2 sets over MC & BWL and droods have 0 feral.

But remind you that the rogue set shoulders are both a bit bad, well NS are the most horrible thing I've ever seen, and BF are good, but not awesome for an tier2 epic.

So you won't have these shoulders cheap, hope you're up for it.

Comentário de Thottbot

Its perfectly OK for people to have extra sets of gear, especially if you find you want to respec in the future.

Comentário de Thottbot

Who ever the idiot is who said "rogues dont want this crap" is full of %^&*.

THESE are better than BF shoulders for a combat rogue.

Same armor, more atk power, but almost twice as much stamina! Sure we lose agi for crit, ask a combat rogue if he cares. Most combat rogue users are prone to stun locking more than burst damage.

IMO...Best shoulders thus for for a Sword/Mace/Fist rogue for straight up DPS.

Comentário de Thottbot

ya i agree with that i got the shoulders and belt along with my claw of the black drake and brute blade

Comentário de Thottbot

IMO these shoulders are awesome regardless of whether you are a Feral or any spec of Rogue. Myself, I am daggers and with the added attack power they generate, I am coming out of stealth with some uber Ambushes and carving up stuff with my Backstabs in either PvP or PvE.

I have tried to crank out my ATT PWR with a mix of Zandalar, BF and Taut Dragonhide gear. I have noticed significant base and crit damage increase which has raised my overall DPS.

On top of the stats, and because Blizz were lazy in designing leather shoulders (they all look the same except for set shoulders) It is awesome to see different shoulders on my toon for a change. Love this stuff.

Comentário de Allakhazam

better shoulders than BF for dagger rogue.

Comentário de Allakhazam

Ok here is a pic

My char with these shoulders

Edited, Wed Sep 28 14:35:40 2005

Comentário de Allakhazam

My guild boned him on our first serious attempt.

We 1st-killed 3 dragons after Broodlord and it was kind of late already and we went for the fight just to wipe ;-)

Two days later we came to BWL to give it a serious try and Chromie died on our 4th or 5th try. Pretty decent ;-) We didnt get Time Lapse though so we're looking forward to bone him with that one on (we had Incernate and Acid Breath).

Anyway... Those shoulder dropped... And I won :-) Feral Druid muahahaha... Pretty decent tanking/DD shoulders. Now looking forward for ZG Exhalted to put +30 AP enchant on those :)

Comentário de Allakhazam

almost every druid in our raid has these (for pvp, of course). rogues dont want it.

Comentário de Allakhazam

Marloc . please upload the pic on some page. allakhazam is too slow :l

Comentário de Allakhazam

It's nice shoulder's if you look at the stats 30+ sta. but the looks! can't you "hide shoulder's" LOL!

Comentário de Allakhazam

30 Stamina and 46 attack power. Very good for shoulders! Does someone has a picture?

Comentário de Allakhazam

I think they look good. We are Rogues. Master of deception, Assasins, thieves. Why run around with some big,red,smoking shoulders when you can sneak wear theese stealth-looking babies ? =D L2Roleplay :)

Comentário de Allakhazam

Had great stats but looks are pretty terrible. They were a very nice stamina piece back at level 60 too.

Comentário de Allakhazam

Does the graphic change in 1.9?

Comentário de Allakhazam

If you really want to roleplay you will wear NO shoulders, since shoulders are bulky and are lots of trouble to sneak, making swift arms movement difficult, and the point of bloodfang black mist getting out of the upper part, is that this "black mist" creates a self-made camouflage :P

Comentário de Allakhazam

yeh awesome!

Comentário de Allakhazam

these + zg enchant = ZOMGPWED

i would take bf for style... but i let them first to all the other rogues

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?545304 keke ^^

Edited, Tue Mar 28 11:30:26 2006

Comentário de Allakhazam

This is the shoulders for you if you want to look like a level 20 newb!

Comentário de Allakhazam

still generic :(

Comentário de Allakhazam

imagine both these and BF shoulders dropping. the top DKP Rogue's head would explode trying to pick which one =)

Comentário de Allakhazam

I have sent a picture, we'll see when its up :p

Comentário de Allakhazam

I have these, but now that I have AB exalted I rather use:

Omoplatas de Couro do Highlander

Comentário de Allakhazam

Hide cloak
Hide helm

Full bloodfang except shoulders, and place those.

The most perfect ninja you can create :)))))

Comentário de 9yrl

By some these are considered second BIS PvP shoulders for Ladino after Rank 13 items Palas de Couro do Marechal-de-campo / Espaldares de Couro do Senhor da Guerra. And since rank 13 is a tough one achievement to get, these shoulders have their high place in rogue PvP BIS list.

Got them from the second drop to our guild since our feral druid already had them. And I'm pretty happy about it because I finally have something to wear around instead of my ugly-bubbly Tier 1 Ombreiras do Matador Noturno (which is sadly BIS in PvE than badass Bloodfang Espaldares Dentessangue).

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