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Postado por
ElhonnaDS
@Boron- At least it gave my guild a good laugh.
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557473
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Postado por
Thror
I found a new fun thing to do. Writing mini-reviews on battle pets.
It is sad that not many people visit those pages though.
Postado por
MyTie
I took the night off from the conversation. I watched like, 5 episodes of Breaking Bad, got a good night's sleep, and had a wonderfully relaxing morning. I took all that time to try to consider the most dispassionate and unoffensive way I could explain why I don't like that story.
Honestly MyTie, considering how you hate the stereotype, I have no idea how you could relate to a woman like that.
Adamsm, there is no woman. She doesn't exist. I know this because the story isn't believable. The woman in question herself is over the top. It's possible that some people really act like that, though. The next unbelievable part is that the manager would go through the process of sending out a visual description to all other stores within a 20 mile radius so that the employees of those stores could feign sexual desires just to give some strange customer a hard time. The final thing that doesn't really add up is that some random cashier out there would find this website to relay her story to. All of those three things are so unlikely, they couldn't have all happened, didn't happen.
What is completely likely is that someone put this story in it because they thought it would be funny if it really did happen. That's what bothers me. Why does that bother me? That brings us to "The professor dropped the chalk" stories.
I keep encountering different versions of this story around the internet, where a professor in a classroom is shown up by his students. In every one of them, the professor is visibly shaken, and drops his chalk. Here is an example of one
link
(don't read if easily offended).
Here
is that same story, only targeting the exact opposite. The first time I've heard anything like this was when a professor in a college agreed to average everyone's grades, and they all ended up getting Fs. I saw it a bunch of times all over my facebook and other places, as some sort of self asserted proof that communism doesn't work.
I don't like these stories. They bother me. It isn't that some lady trying to return homosexual tainted goods from a story should be able to. It isn't that some liberal muslim homosexual ACLU professor abortion doctor should lose his tenure. The problem is that these people don't actually exist, and are simply made up by other people to portray the "other side" of the argument as wrong, illogical, and unpopular. The stories are rude. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate me making up a story about a wiccan who was the worst stereotype of wiccans I could imagine, and him getting what he deserves for his wrong stereotypes. Blacks wouldn't appreciate it if I made up a story about a stereotypical black getting what he deserves. No one likes stereotypes. It isn't the stereotypes I'm defending, it's the need to make them up at all I'm questioning.
Show me an actual person fitting some negative stereotypes, and I'll agree that person is wrong. Make up a story about a stereotyped person on "my side" of an argument that is wrong and I'll simply condemn the use of stereotypes. It isn't funny. It isn't fun at all to have to endure that sort of portrayal, nor of people patting each other on the back for finding such a humorous anecdote.
If you don't understand, by now, why I don't like this story, and why it bothers me, I don't have any ways left of communicating the reason for my distaste. I certainly don't want to argue about it, and not here. If you have any more questions for me, my email is in my sig.
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557473
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Postado por
MyTie
It doesn't matter why she believes what she believes. She is opposed to Homosexuals, and on religious grounds. God will send them to hell, and we should round them up and put them down, she says. Really? Really? That's such a huge negative stereotype against those who disagree with homosexuality. It doesn't matter why she believes it. This invented woman opposes homosexuality, is portrayed heinously, and gets what is coming to her. It's tacky. It's rude.
I can't even believe I'm explaining this.
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557473
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Postado por
MyTie
BRB, after I find video of people actually saying something like that.
I know there are people who believe awful things, and I know there are people fitting stereotypes. I can also find you video of homosexuals doing heinous things. Would it be ok for me to make up a story about a gay man, fitting stereotypes, getting what is coming to him, and someone who is opposed to homosexuality being the one showing him up? Would that be well received here? Why or why not.
Postado por
ElhonnaDS
To put it in context, in the world today there are people who are in jail for being gay. There are people who execute other people for being gay. There are hate crimes being prosecuted where the people involved admitted they targeted the people involved because they were gay. If we know for a fact that people exist who hate gay people so much that they want them dead, or physically harmed, why is it such a stretch that people would exist who don't want them touching their groceries? Not a lot of people, not logically thinking people- but weird people.
If you read that site, the whole point is that the customers are generally behaving in ways that are absolutely ridiculous. On the sister site right now, "Not Always Working" there's a story about an atheist employee who works at a religious store and is being an ass. There were a number of stories in the last couple of weeks where a priest, or a minister, or someone else religious was getting the upper hand on a ridiculous customer, and being portrayed as the good guy. They don't tend to specifically religion-bash.
The set of sites tell stories about people who are unbelievably racist, violent, rude, sexist, igorant, etc. They tell stories about people who run in and try and play the race card to get free stuff, when there is clearly no racism involved. They tell stories about scam artists and about people who are too stupid to live. The point of the story, is that to believe that someone gay can taint your foods with their gayness is idiotic. You may not agree with being gay, but you have to admit that the woman in question would have been a moron. Just like someone might not believe in your religion, but would agree that someone who took a job in a Christian Book Shop, and argued customers there was no God was being a jackass. It's about the behavior.
And having worked in customer service and sales for a long time, you would be AMAZED at some of the unbalanced, ridiculous human beings you come in contact with. I do believe that a cashier had that experience with a customer. I don't actually believe that the entire regional management team got involved with pretending to be gay, but that a solitary person would be a nut- totally buy that.
The story isn't about "This is how religious people act." It's about "Look at the lunatics we deal with in customer service."
Postado por
MyTie
Elhonna, I also wouldn't think the stories about the stereotypical atheist getting shown up by the Christian would be funny, either. Stories about stereotypes strike me as petty and tacky. Yes, there are people who fit those stereotypes. I know. That's beside the point. The story is divisive and petty. I wish that the linked story had been one of a Christian showing up an atheist, with plenty of stereotypes, that way it wouldn't look biased on my part when I argued that it wasn't funny.
Edit: To your edit, the professor that dropped the chalk wasn't a representation of all liberal muslim homosexual ACLU abortion doctors, it was just the stereotype. The stereotype that got what he deserved. It's silly. It's not funny. I don't like it.
Postado por
ElhonnaDS
Elhonna, I also wouldn't think the stories about the stereotypical atheist getting shown up by the Christian would be funny, either. Stories about stereotypes strike me as petty and tacky. Yes, there are people who fit those stereotypes. I know. That's beside the point. The story is divisive and petty. I wish that the linked story had been one of a Christian showing up an atheist, with plenty of stereotypes, that way it wouldn't look biased on my part when I argued that it wasn't funny.
I use the site to blow off steam. I have had at least one story published about an idiot customer who gave me a hard time, and two more that were funny because the people involved were so ridiculous. all of them 100% true. One of them could absolutely have been attributed to a stereotype, had I given more information about the person involved, but it didn't make it a less true anecdote. A lot of these are true stories.
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557473
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ElhonnaDS
Come to think of it, I think I've had 4 or 5 published on the sites- I lost track.
Postado por
HiVolt
I know there are people who believe awful things, and I know there are people fitting stereotypes. I can also find you video of homosexuals doing heinous things. Would it be ok for me to make up a story about a gay man, fitting stereotypes, getting what is coming to him, and someone who is opposed to homosexuality being the one showing him up? Would that be well received here? Why or why not.
Yes, it would be okay for you to make up that story. Would it be well received? Couldn't tell you, because I haven't read the hypothetical story.
In the end, it doesn't really matter whether it's true or not. It's believable enough to be true, just as I'm sure whatever story you could find or write would be believable enough to be true. That's the beauty of fiction: it doesn't have to be true to be believable.
If you think it's fiction, just write it off as entertainment that doesn't appeal to you. I didn't find it particularly funny for much the same reason, that stereotypes just aren't that funny. However, if you think it's real, and you've already conceded that people like this exist on both sides... why are you upset about it? It shouldn't come as any kind of a surprise.
Do you think that it perpetuates a stereotype? Because, I don't see that at all. I just see it as a story about a bigot who, because she was rude and hateful to someone that was helping her, didn't get the help that she wanted. It's nothing more than an aesop with a specific social context. It'd be no different than if a Muslim couldn't get his service from Christians because he'd been calling them all followers of a false messiah. It's the same principal.
I don't get the vehemence here, man. Regardless of the truth, it's only a story.
Postado por
Rankkor
Ok,
This
has got to be the most disturbing photo I've ever seen.
its like this person is staring at your soul.
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557473
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Postado por
MyTie
I'm not ignoring you guys. I just don't feel like continuing the debate here. If you really want to pursue the topic, email me.
Postado por
gamerunknown
Lol, some customer came into the store today and asked the cashier "do you do guys". She said "nope". He said "good to know".
Another guy came in and told me that a naked mannequin was offensive to him as a single male. I laughed and he said "look at me, I'm dead serious". Then he said he was going to have to return and take it home. Under inspection it did appear to have nipples, so I dressed it.
Postado por
Interest
Afternoon.
Postado por
Titan
Now here's something that sure to put a smile on your face.
While i do find that kinda funny, i also want to know why someone's sexual preferences should matter.
At all.
I have gay friends, lesbian ones, straight ones, bi ones and i get along with all of them...so i don't understand what the big deal is to be completely honest.
All the hate in this world drives me crazy at times.
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