Comments

Comment by oraro

Drops from Kel'Thuzad.

Comment by Xeenon

Currently the best dagger in the game, and will be viable all the way to level 70, even with the change to critical strike and hit rating.

Comment by 6835

Of course in BC there will be much better daggers, but even after you dinged to 70 you will still DPS with this dagger for quite a while.

Comment by 6828

This will more than likely be the best off hand in the game come level 70. Such a nice dagger. I have a friend that is wielding this and Death's Sting, lets just say he hits hard.

Comment by 7765

You should get this dagger for the rogues in the guild first , the hunters will have to wait.

Comment by Jagger1

I'm sorry but I have to disagree... give it to whomever will get the most use out of it... with beta items showing up every day there is bound to be more powerfull DPS daggers out there... but hunters are looking at stats, and while DPS will improve on new weapons, stats will start to almost level off when looking at only a couple attributes, and this is probably good enough stats to last a hunter a long time.

Comment by 7736

Cirt, Chance to Hit and +agility screams rouge.

Comment by 8421

This thing looks so sweet. I must get one! Highest dagger dps.

Comment by 8004

being the dagger with the highest dps for now, it only makes sense to let rogues have priority on it. hunters, as stated above, can wait.

Comment by 7765

You have a point there Jagger , but just imagine a rogue with Instant poison rank IV buff on Kingsfall , that would be way better than in the hands of a hunter .

Comment by 8474

Kingsfall drops off Kel'Thuzad in Naxxramas in Eastern Plaguelands for a drop rate of about 3.41%.
Some speculate this to be the dagger used by Garona Halforcen to assassinate King Llane Wrynn towards the end of the First War.

referance: http://www.wowwiki.com/Kingsfall

Comment by 8557

There are much better weapons for a hunter though, Jagger. Take for example an Iblis, Blade of the Fallen Seraph (https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=23014), it's more attack power and there's still the 1% hit and 1% crit. Although I don't doubt that a hunter CAN put this to good use, I still think it'd be better in the hands of a rogue (or maybe even fury warrior) because of the dps this thing can put out.

Comment by 7735

From what i have read, this dagger (lorewise) is the same dagger that Garona Halforcen, the Half-orc assasin, used to cut out the heart of king Llane Wrynn. That certainly explains the name.

Comment by Thottbot

Drops of kel'thuzad

Comment by Thottbot

FYI kel was 1st kill by nihilum om the UK server, Kingsfall didnt drop...some other sword did and some staff

Risen was the 2nd to kill him and kingsfall (the godlyist dagg ever) dropped along w/ a wand (doomfinger) that duz 139 dps

Comment by Thottbot

http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kingsfalles1.png

Dropped 9.8.06 off Kel'Thuzad!

Comment by Thottbot

As always, hunters will say every bloody is suited for them. Might as well you guys go for starves or wands as well :)

Anyways, with any guild that does raids, this will definitely go to the rogue first. 'nuff said.

Comment by Thottbot

im sorry i dont care if this is the best Trinket for hunters to put in their melee slots but heres whats rly important:

It is the highest Dps One hander in the game.
It is the hardest hitting Dagger in the game.

not until every rogue who wants it in your guild has it should hunters get it.
otherwise, you fail at guild progression.

Comment by Thottbot

fellow rogues fear not, for any hunters who honestly believe they would get an equal crack at this the first few drops will never see kel'thuzad.

Comment by Thottbot

It even comes with a built-in can opener...

Comment by Thottbot

For all of you noobs out there:

Any guild that has enough coordination, synergy, teamwork, leadership, and gear to clear Naxx and defeat Kel'thuzad will 100% of the time give this dagger to a rogue unless none of the rogues need/want it.

Comment by Thottbot

Not to mention that the idea of hunters being a dps class is a joke: major endgame dps is rogues, mages, warriors, and sometimes locks. Even Nihilum, the (EU) guild that downed kel'thuzad first stated in their interview on WoW Radio that the hunter class is worthless in regards to super end-game content.

Comment by Thottbot

this weapon is just awsome, its great for too many classes, its the best 1h weapon a hunter can get, its powerfull on the hands of a rogue, a warrior fury would do a really high damage.

anyway if i see it once in my life this will surely be onthe hands of a rogue.

Comment by Thottbot

Do you realize how much a single backstab crit will do, with 1,000 attack power, 5/5 leth, and 5/5 opp? Like the number would just be "Holy !@#$!" would be how much damage you inflict in 1 backstab. I would die before this goes to a hunter or warrior. Rogue weapon, matter of fact it should be sharded when all the rogues have one.

Comment by Thottbot

This is actually the weapon used by Garona the half orc to kill the king in Warcraft: The Last Guardian.

I just love to point these dumb little things out.

XD

Comment by Thottbot

thats al i gotta say

Comment by Thottbot

i do understand how this is a "hunter" weapon, but it's more of a rogue or a warrior weapon than hunter weapon, even though hunters would benefit from it.

p.s., blank is spelled incorrectly

Comment by Thottbot

I'm a hunter and this is by far the most beneficial for rogues and I would never argue that. However, if all the rogues did not want it I definitely think that hunters are next in line. The +16 agility is as good as it gets for one-handers and the crit and hit chance are always great for hunters.

ONCE AGAIN I WOULD NEVER TAKE THIS FROM A ROGUE!

Comment by Thottbot

Ok this is a ROGUE wpn even if other classes can use it but i would surely give it to rogue(me xD)

GL in getting it!

Comment by Thottbot

You'd take this over a warrior?

1. Rogues
2. Warriors
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
...
394.
395. Hunters

I'm a Hunter. Lrn2EpicZGFistWeapon. Kthxbai.

Comment by Thottbot

But to those who said "lrn2zgfistweapon"

How about understanding how a class works before you spout worthless drivel which is incorrect in every sense of the word.
Double freaking boneslicing is better than the damn zg fist weapons.

Comment by Thottbot

first off, i'd like to say this is a kick ass dagger...... great damage and very nice stats. but i've seen alot of rogue/hunter talk about this dagger and i have to say, if you don't realize this dagger should go to a rogue, just shoot yourself you slug under a rock before you have children and pollute the earth with your seed. yes, this has nice stats on it for a hunter i will admit, or even a fury warrior, but this is the best dagger in the game at this point, so it should be defaulted to a rogue. the best ranged weapons in the game you don't see rogues #$%^&in about them not gettin it, and if you do, tell them to hang themselves too. rogues don't get daggers completely for stats if it is a mainhand dagger, and this is a mainhand dagger. a rogue would get WAY more use out of this than a hunter, and you could always find a rogue that would want this, unless you have only one rogue in your guild, this should always go to a rogue, if i ever saw another class with this dagger, i would mock your guild for being #$%^ing retards....... enjoy the other comments :)

Comment by Thottbot

I have seen in 2 years, hunters complaining and telling every weapon is for their class. I'm so freaking tired of that, now I'm not telling that every hunter does but can't you just stop doing such stuff? This is clearly a rogue item in the first wave, and there was a hunter in a reply above that told us that it's good for hunters because of the 15 agility and crit chance, "Bone slicing hatchet" got 16 agility and some stam, and itts blu for like lvl 55 and there is much more better items that just this dagger if you just count the stats. So as I said... think about it when u are going to post such useless replies next time.

Comment by Thottbot

No guild is retarded enough to give a hunter kingsfall over a rogue.

Comment by Allakhazam

http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kingsfalles1.png

Dropped 9.8.06 off Kel'Thuzad

Comment by Allakhazam

I Freaking Got it
Today Yessss !
I am a dagger rogue,and i am going to kick some Ords Asss

Comment by Allakhazam

Dude why would you be in a Undead guild? Thats pretty newbish your missing healing classes and better main tanks. and rouges dont get every damn dagger in the game that has agility on it

Edited, Mar 11th 2007 3:44am by VIMHoTrooper

Comment by Allakhazam

this is a rogue weapon , go get urself a Eye of nerub hunters ... it is actually a hunter weapon.

Comment by Allakhazam

dagger looks tite

Comment by Allakhazam

Why do you even bother discussing a thing like this? All hunters can die in a @#$%ing fire, end.

Comment by Allakhazam

omg!only rogue wep omg:P:)

Comment by Allakhazam

I'm a 60 hunter myself, and I won't deny having this dagger wouldn't be fun, but in all honesty, any hunter who would take this over a rogue or even a fury warrior for his off hand is a complete %^&*ing retard. Yeah, the stats are hella nice for us, but I can't think of even ONE oppurtunity for us to use that 158 top damage effectively.

Wing Clips in PvP don't count. Period. Rogues should get it first far and away, then fury wars for the OH, THEN hunters should have a shot at it.

Comment by Allakhazam

I got This Baby i am so happy about it
With my sets i am good
THE BEST !

Comment by Allakhazam

What on earth would make you say such a thing? There is no evidence that this is even remotely true, especially if you have looked at the Thottbot Beta server site. As of yet, the only lv 70 1-hander items that have been found (and logged) are +healing/spell dmg items, however, a few lvl 67 1-hander items have been found and none of them even comes close to this. And think about the game currently, rule of thumb is that a blue item is nearly as good as the greens 10 lvls higher than it, and even more for epic items. Then think about this, the Kingsfall is more than just an epic, it's an epic drop off of the most powerful character in the game right now, how could it not be a-friggin-mazing, even in comparison to TBC drops?

Comment by Allakhazam

why would this go to a hunter yes dps and agi crit chance crap like that. Ive read this whole post and this wepon is best suited to go to a rouge

I agree with skiettekat hunters get yourself an eye of nerub because not only does it raise agi it also raises you range wep skill lvls

Comment by Allakhazam

Hunter Weapon. Discuss.

Comment by Allakhazam

Looks a lot sexier then my DS ;_; I want it.

We're stuck on 4hm now, and frequently wipe on loatheb cause' we're noob >.< not seeing it anytime soon I guess.

Comment by Allakhazam

yeeee, ofc both should roll, yee sure...
didn't you thought, this is DAGGER? and that is MUCH more useful for rogue than hunter, cause hunter can use almost every weapon, and rogues use mainly daggers or swords(depends on spec), they also wear maces, but it's rare =P and the stats are as good for hunter as for rogue so don't say $%^& like the stats are more for hunter...
i think hunter should roll, if rogue passes, but it depend on guild

Comment by Allakhazam

Ya know, this is why I love being in an undead only guild. I don't have to deal with hunters who want to be !@#$%^&s, since undead can't be hunters. The fact of the matter is that if you're in a guild that raids Naxx, and SUCCESSFULLY kills Kel'Thuzad, AND this drops, then you're obviously not in a noob guild, and thus the rogues will get first priority.

Comment by Allakhazam

i think that this dagger is ONLY rogue weapon even if i am not rogue(i am hunter!)
myself as a hunter prefer o.handed swords

cheers

Comment by Allakhazam

this dagger is so insane...i need to start looking for a really really really good raid guild to join! haha

Edited, Sep 14th 2010 10:25pm by Qaeto

Comment by Allakhazam

i think its a pally weapon. ha just kidding. i think everyone should just chill though

Comment by Allakhazam

DnT or Risen?

Comment by Allakhazam

Hunter weapon.

Comment by Allakhazam

Yeah cause its a shame that once a hunter or a rogue gets it that the other class will never have a(nother) chance to get it...

Comment by Allakhazam

Owen J just wanted to give props to you! lol. Its true, most Hunter's and rogues alike that post on hear are prob lower lvl or lvl 60's that dont raid, or start raiding. Becuase like you said, nobody hear has to worry about a hunter getting this weapon over a rogue. So yes, keep posting about how much this is a hunter weapon/rogue weapon, while some of us actually do some raids and get it. But that wouldnt include myself, I dont raid, i PVP, but that dosent mean i dont know how a real guild distributes their loot. And if its by DKP, that means that everyone in the guild has enough respect for each other, that a hunter would prob pass this up and let the happy little rogue get it.

And about PVP OwenJ, what you said might be true, but... now with shadowstep I might get a better chance to ambush you with my Kingsfall... j/k ;)

Comment by Allakhazam

There's no way in hell a hunter will get this for a very, very long time cuz being able to kill KT means you're pretty much in a noob-proof guild which will !@#$ the hunter over if he decides to blow all his DKP on this over a rogue.

Comment by Allakhazam

Look at it this way:
a) For rogues and warriors, gun slots are basically a third ring slot. We don't count on guns for our DPS/Tanking, only for extra stats. Hunters should have first priority as long as the item is usable in a reasonable way.
b) For hunters, weapons are extra ring slots. Hunters don't count on these for DPS, no matter what the case is. Rogues and warriors should have first priority, as long as the item is usable in a reasonable way.

Follow these rules and ignore every other "hunter" comment on this board, and you will be fine.

Comment by Allakhazam

Look to be perfectly honest, many classes take better advantage of stat bonuses over rogues, seeing as rogue are still one of the least gear dependent classes. But if ur guild would give a dagger with huge DPS to a hunter because "it has some nice stat bonuses" ur probably in the dumbest guild ever. A hunter is a range specialist and a rogue is limited to close combat (basically). A good weapon is nice for a hunter, but essential for a rogue.

Comment by Allakhazam

Zeuzo @ Sylvanas has 8/9 Bonescythe and DWing Kingsfall and Death's Sting. :O

Comment by Allakhazam

show me picture!

Comment by Allakhazam

great for my hunter! its a hunterweapon!

Comment by Allakhazam

Dropped off KT first kill by A Team, that and Soulseeker ~

Comment by Allakhazam

hunters need stats... not dps!

rogue weapon imo

Comment by Allakhazam

i dont think theres really much debate over what class this weapon is for. Its definitely a rogue weapon because for 1 thing hunters dont have specified moves for daggers that causes massive DPS (backstab, ambush) and there are alot of other types of weapons that arent great for rogues but can pass off for them such as the hakkari set. The stats yea wutever it may be hunter but its also rogue and rogues need it for specified moves depending on build.

Comment by Allakhazam

Obviously a hunter will have the greater benefit because of it's stats while the rogue will get the benefit from wider damage as well as the stats.

But that's me.

Not that it really matters that much anymore with the expansion in all.

Comment by Allakhazam

Personly being a rogue, i believe, that it should go to a Rogue, although hunters may benefit from the stats, a rogue could do a lot more with this dagger, he depends on a good weapon to be effective, where as hunters also need goo weapons, they are mostly ranged, and need a great ranged weapon, if not a SINGLE rogue needed, i can see hunter getting, but i dont see that EVER happening, (with the possible exception of the burning crusade), although a hunter may want this for its stats, a geared rogue may easily, Back stab/ambush for a rediculusly high amounts, wich in my mind is what a dagger is moslty about for a rogue, and if a hunter got priorty or equil chance to get this over a rogue, it would bother me. Why does a guild that can beet Kel'thuzad give this to a hunter for a stat boost over a rogue who can get a MASSIVE boost out of it?

Comment by Allakhazam

all you rogues are a bunch of clowns... lets take a look at this please

well right off the bat its screaming hunter roll

+16 agility comeon now...

+1% crit pretty much every hunter looks for stuff like this

+1% hit makes this weapon even better for shooting our bows

now stop whinning, im not saying you shouldnt roll on it but i think rogues and hunters should roll

Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 4:38am PST by Rorelend

Comment by Allakhazam

delete hunters from this game, all they do is taking rogue weps.

Comment by Allakhazam

Love seeing people posting comments about rolling and bidding when they don't know what the hell they're on about.

Let me just make a promise to you rogues, that might make you feel a little better. 99% of guilds who can beat him, have it on rogue prio. So don't worry your pretty little heads, no hunter is gonna "roll" (lol) or bid on it.
Being a hunter myself, I see the obvious advantage of this for a rogue, as also EVERY OTHER *!@#ING HUNTER WHO HAS BEEN TO NAXX KNOWS. Honestly, getting insecure about loot you'll never even see in your life and taking opportunistic cheapshots at hunters is just sad. And please don't post *!@# if you don't know the mechanics of loot distribution in high end raids.

Oh and kriggsbiffen, especially you crying piece of @#$%, just cos hunters whoops you in bg and one took the dagger from the lich in rfd from you doesn't mean we have small brains and don't know how to use them, but obviously you meant to speak about yourself.
Hehe, and let me take a leaf out of your hunter hating breed of idiots;
&*!@#$%s may be tards, but at least we ain't irl failures (and are justifiably laughed at and beaten - hopefully) who have to express themselves as dark loner ninjas who take their revenge on the world by stealthing and ganking lowbies on 10%Health, pwning - the only way they can since 2004. Prick.

Comment by Allakhazam

I wont fight the fact that this can be good for a hunter. they key factor is the massive dps in a daggar form. which is the basis for a rogue. hunters can get a crit % and hit % from any where else. but that 70+ dps would be a total lose on a hunter. And if any of you hunters say "But I will melee" stick it in your pipe and smoke it. Your main source of dps comes from your bow/crossbow/gun.

Comment by Allakhazam

What kinda crap is this? ''We need those stats, were hunters!'' Yeah well we are rogues and rogues need both! Which hunter goes melee fighting? If a staff had +2 agility you sick hunters would want it again!

Comment by Allakhazam

NERF GREEDY ITEMSTELING !@#$%^&S NAOW!

I Hope you catch fire and burn in hell, all of your damned *!@#bags / *!@#$%^s. Wow had been great without your greedy bastards. Every damned weapon is " THAT IS A $%^&*!@ WEAPON AMAGAAAAWD", serious, go die &*!@#$%s

Comment by Allakhazam

This is the best dagger in the game at the moment, drops from Kel'Thuzad. Last Naxx boss.

Comment by Allakhazam

This dagger yeah, makes me erect.

Comment by Allakhazam

although iv'e never played with a rogue.. i can see that this is a pretty damn good dagger

Comment by Allakhazam

whoever says this is a hunter weapons should be shot... why would anyone take this from a rogue who would make much better use of it hunters can get other stuff.. The only time id let a hunter get this is if all the rogues passed on it. I know it is good but it more for a rogue.

also.... y do rogues get the shaft on cool looking weapons

Comment by Allakhazam

all hunters are *!@#ing retards that don't even deserve the pleasure of getting a melee weapon with over 38dps.

Plz use ur incredibly small brains, and give this sweet hot lovin' dagger to a rogue that needs it a gazillion times more than you do.
And btw fury warriors are before *!@#$%^s in the line too..
Jeez, i just wanna throw all my dkp away on 3x slavemakers and a soulstring;p

Comment by Allakhazam

Pretty much for both rogue/hunter... they should both have an equal priority for it, seeing that this would benifit bothe classes. This reminds me of when your under vl 40 and always competeing with rogues for the leathe agi items :P

Comment by Allakhazam

Dropped from Kel'Thuzad

View in 3D Find upgrades...Links

Quick Facts

Screenshots

Videos

Kingsfall

Item Level 89
Binds when picked up
Unique

One-Hand	Dagger

105 - 158 Damage	Speed 1.80

(73.06 damage per second)
+16 Agility
Durability 75 / 75

Requires Level 60
Equip: Improves your chance to get a critical strike by 1%.
Equip: Improves your chance to hit by 1%.

Sell Price: 26 51 85

Guides

Rogue Best in Slot Guide Hunter DPS Phase 4 Best in Slot (BiS) Gear Guide Kel'Thuzad Strategy Guide Naxxramas Loot Guide Rogue DPS Phase 4 Best in Slot (BiS) Gear Guide

Kingsfall

Guides

Related

Contribute