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The noob culture, and the playing of WoW
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Messaggio di
Gnub
Most the rest of us know that what games you grew up playing is not a determining factor in noobness.
A diverse experience in various other games does give a slight advantage though. Reflexes, overview... that kind of stuff - but that should be a given, hopefully :P
<3 OMF! That game was awesome... I eventually mastered like 3 of the robots, and could pretty soundly thrash stuff with most of the others, but it was still awesome.
Good old trusty Jaguar. Double upgrade was delicious. For some reason, no other robot really got me like that one... now, if only it had looked as awesome back then, as it did in One Must Fall: Battlegrounds (
see here
) - too bad that game failed utterly.
Messaggio di
Hyperspacerebel
So in other words, you were able to read and understand what I wrote. Working as intended.
Guess is more the right word.
Messaggio di
Adamsm
I'm good at gleaning.
So in other words, you can read and understand the OP. Working as intended.
Not really no; it's still completely undreadable, HSR just enjoys tweaking your nose.
Messaggio di
Squishalot
Good old trusty Jaguar. Double upgrade was delicious. For some reason, no other robot really got me like that one... now, if only it had looked as awesome back then, as it did in One Must Fall: Battlegrounds (see here) - too bad that game failed utterly.
Elektra 22-hit combo with max speed and agility upgrades was better :P I tried OMF:BG, but the game style switched to the crappy 3D one, and I just couldn't inspire myself to play it anymore.
The primary reason that single player was better than multi was the fact that keyboard hogging was a serious issue back then. Network/online play didn't work, I don't think.
Significance must needs (<3) include reference to percentage. 7 out of 10 is significant. 7 out of 10 billion isn't.
Significance requires context. 7 car accidents out of 10 billion metres driven (or let's be absurd, 10 trillion millimetres) is a meaningless number on its own.
Depending on context, any given number may or may not be significant. That's why drug testing trials have very different levels of significance to hedge fund trading strategies.
Messaggio di
Hyperspacerebel
Significance requires context.
And the extent of your data set is part of that context.
Messaggio di
93865
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163681
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Messaggio di
abulurd
Is this the part where I get called a noob because I thought Starfleet Command II was awesome (although, like World of Warcraft, its potential greatness did not reach its full horizons due to sketchy implementation, corporate feuds, and limited imagination from otherwise creative devs) but never played Starfleet Battles?
I particularly liked the music in that game - very appropriate, very well chosen - as well as the ship names. I love it when developers choose music, names, and phrasing that is not merely well-composed but establishes depth of cadence. And of course, I enjoyed reading the Romulan ship names in particular, though other races had well-chosen names as well.
Mirak/Kzinti > All.
Messaggio di
Hyperspacerebel
I would have to agree with that entirely.
On what basis? Are you just counting QQ threads in a vacuum, like others want to?
Messaggio di
xaratherus
I believe when he says "we consider it questionable" he is inferring that the majority of the player base considers it questionable. I would have to agree with that entirely.
The amount of people with which you could have possibly interacted within game - to an extent thta would allow you to hold an informed opinion of how they feel about the game - is such a massive subset of the entire player base that you actually hurt the credibility of your argument by even proposing to know the majority's opinion. I think that's the point HSR is trying to make.
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296147
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Messaggio di
KrayOfKhaz
6 years in WoW for me this month, albeit with a hiatus in the middle. Frankly, I don't give a flying carpet's loose threads about who has achieved what, killed whom, jumped how high or discovered where. They pay their subscriptions, I pay mine so I play to my own end-game requirements.
This is the major gripe for me regarding generalisations:
They tend to try and speak for everyone without asking everyone's opinion. Their sole purpose is to try to back up an individual viewpoint and thus are flawed from inception.
Where's mah pie?
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93865
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Messaggio di
moocow
Intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation?
Here
are some good writings about that & related topics.
Today in WoW, we consider it questionable at least if such a great percentage didn't do X content.
There's your problem. We don't consider it questionable, you do.
No, the game designers consider it questionable. They outright stated that they were going to make raids more accessible because they didn't want to spend a lot of effort creating something only a few percent of people were going to enjoy.
That doesn't explain why they'd have to make raids in the first place, though.
The other thing is that we're becoming a time poor society, especially the older generation of gamers who juggle family, work and social commitments.
No. People THINK they have little time, and are poor at prioritizing. People have always had to deal with family (before there were schools or kindergardens), work (before there were washing machines, factories or maximum work hour limits), and social commitments (before you could choose not to interact with someone living near you), and yet they managed to have time to play games and such.
If you have no goal, nothing to accomplish, what are you doing?Exploring, playing, figuring out the system. "What happens when I do x" is different from "I want to achieve x".
Aetsu, when people say they don't understand what you're saying, try rephrasing it (even if it feels like you're just repeating yourself, word choice or the way you list it can matter a lot). Answer questions & ask questions, to help clarify the OP & what they don't understand about it.
And to the mods, what good comes out of letting people call others trolls? From what I can see, if it's true they're giving the troll attention, if not they're insulting an innocent poster & derailing a thread. Neither is good.
Messaggio di
Gnub
A diverse experience in various other games does give a slight advantage though. Reflexes, overview... that kind of stuff - but that should be a given, hopefully :P
"Advantage" isn't my point so much as style and preference.
Hm, I must have lost a point somewhere then - care to elaborate? :)
And to the mods, what good comes out of letting people call others trolls? From what I can see, if it's true they're giving the troll attention, if not they're insulting an innocent poster & derailing a thread. Neither is good.
I'm not really following what you're getting at. I flushed out a bit of off-topic stuff above, but didn't really notice anything super bad. We can only monitor as much as people report, and we read ourselves - but, that's a discussion for another place.
Messaggio di
422399
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Messaggio di
Nipah
@jumbodog:
Some good points there... reminds me of when I get poked fun of for spending too much time on the forums... Which is funny, because if I spent my forum time instead doing what other people generally do (watch television), I'd suddenly not be "wasting my time".
... yeah, because apparently other peoples hobbies are worthwhile, while my hobbies are useless distractions!
*grumbles*
on topic: I've never assumed most people played the older games like I have... Hell, I bet most people haven't played Adventure for the Atari (I have it in an orange suede box with my other Atari games!), but that doesn't mean I'm suddenly more hardcore than they are (which wasn't the point of the OP, but you get me, right?)
I also don't assume that people enjoyed the same games I did... I never liked SimCity. I never liked FF6 (or FF3, depending on your view of the FF naming convention). I liked WCII more than WCIII. I liked Suikoden more than FF9. All of these things, said to the wrong person, will get me flamed harder than something you really, REALLY want to light on fire. And yet, when someone says "Oh yeah, I love me some Call of Duty", I don't automatically shrug and mock them for it like I tend to see other people do on forums...
... I forget my original point in all this... lets just say "generally speaking, people are all different, except when they're the same."
That's either really freaking deep, or really freaking stupid.
Messaggio di
Adamsm
Wow, it's still going?
Messaggio di
KrayOfKhaz
This is the major gripe for me regarding generalisations:
They tend to try and speak for everyone without asking everyone's opinion. Their sole purpose is to try to back up an individual viewpoint and thus are flawed from inception.
Claiming that a line of reasoning is wrong merely because it happens to be an individual viewpoint, or that generalizations are fundamentally invalid, are themselves logical fallacies.
Discuss the topic or don't. If you can't engage the topic in a constructive manner, just walk away instead of dismissing what one has to say with semantics.
You missed my point. When you say "We....", the reader is included by default. You did not have my opinion, nor my permission, to make me inclusive. Thank you for ignoring the first portion of my post, also.
I never claimed your line of reasoning was wrong...I stated generalisations are inherently not worth the time taken to formulate them.
Now, you were saying about "semantics"?
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422399
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