Survival Hunter State on the Shadowlands Beta - Spec Concerns, Hunter's Mark, Covenants

Bêta Publié 23/08/2020 à 13:54 par celinamuna

Class/Spec Changes

Effrayer une bête - Fairly high focus cost ability for a very limited use ability. Not worth keybinding outside of PvP.

Yeux de la Bête - Might be somewhat useful in regards to being able to agro a pack of mobs, run away with them and Faire le mort as a slightly more convenient death-skip, but once again extremely niche.

Tir mortel - Execute mechanic that DOES work with a melee weapon. It's a nice addition, but unlikely to be significant without going Venthyr.

Tir tranquillisant- moved our utility away from a pet and made always available which is a nice change.

Tir assuré - a casted shot that DOES NOT work with a melee weapon...

Tir des Arcanes - an instant shot that cost focus and that DOES NOT work with a melee weapon...

Marque du chasseur - allows us to track target, but also steals 5% of our aoe/cleave damage. Will be discussed more in-depth below.

Détournement - does not trigger immediately, but still does not transfer pet threat.

Ressusciter le familier - now a 4 seconds cast time. Unlikely to be noticed in group content, but feels very punishing in solo and pvp.

TalentsInfusion de flambéeMorsure de mangousteOiseaux de proieTactique de guérillaCherche-sangPrédateur alphaCovenantsNight Fae Esprits sauvagesForme d’âmeVenthyr Tir écorcheurTir mortelChakram de mortPorte des ombresForme d’âmeForme d’âmeKyrian Flèche résonnanteInvocation de régisseurNecrolord Chakram de mortTir écorcheurChair recomposée Covenant Overview ConduitsCovenant/PotencyMarque d’affaiblissementLibération surpuissanteBarrage nécrotiqueHarmonisation de l’espritTandem mortelOiseaux de proieInfusion de flammesFrappe cinglanteForce de la meuteInfusion de flambéeFrappe cinglanteTandem mortelForce de la meuteEnduranceRésilience du chasseurHarmonie des TortollansAvantage du tireur d’éliteRésilience du chasseurVent régénérantFinesseRevers de fortuneRetraite tactiqueVigueur du guépardRevers de fortuneLegendaries

Appel de la Nature - makes Assaut coordonné a 90 second cd, which does have potential to make it line up better with mechanics (assuming that we're not hitting levels of haste where we can maintain it for extreme periods of time), as such if Embers do get nerfed this will likely be our go-to choice.

Stratagème du couard - likely to be exclusively PvP oriented, as even if it did have some exceptional PvE soaking potential would most likely simply get hotfixed.

Appareil de trappeur de Nesingwary - while any focus is good, since we do not* use traps for our dps rotation, it's unlikely to be useful.

Braises de la forge des Âmes - introducing "using traps for our dps rotation", this is actually an interesting design as it introduces 2 generally non rotational abilities into the rotation, and with a very strong potential. Currently due to being focus starved it's also fairly easy to squeeze it in without disrupting normal rotational flow. It is also not as position restrictive, as all of the enemies located in our when we set it of will receive a dot, and we do not lose any damage if they move out of it after.

Amas de feux de brousse - similar to our Azerite effect, just a bit of extra damage "passively".

Frappes déconcertantes du traqueur de rylak - while there is potential for it to be good in later tiers with increased haste levels, currently seems too infrequent to be useful.

Injecteurs de poison latent - another Azerite trait resurrected, might end up being somewhat fun to use on AoE when combined with , but outside of that also doesn't have a lot of rotational gameplay implications. Part of the issue is that the damage is significantly less than the 3x Azerite equivalent one, but it still suffers from the fact that on Single Target fights it’s basically just a bit of extra damage, as we don’t need to manage it at all.

Fragments d’os du Boucher - return of our legion legendary, however greatly depowered due to lack of Hellcarver trait, combined with the addition of AoE caps making it another legendary that's unlikely to be used.

Braises de la forge des ÂmesAppel de la NatureInjecteurs de poison latentAppel de la NatureTandem mortelOiseaux de proieConcernsHunter's MarkOrdre de tuerAttaque du raptorSpec utility / IdentityPossible Solutions?

Making it ranged. Now a number of survival players will hate this idea, but the simple fact is that if it was to become another ranged spec, with some hybrid potential, it would be far more popular. Consider this, all of the abilities besides Raptor/Mongoose and auto-attacks are already "ranged", if there was a system similar to other specs where they can pick what weapon they want to use, while everything else remains constant, it would become far more popular, say make Raptor/Mongoose transform from "strike" into "shot", but do 2-3% less damage, the actual rotation and the spec identity (Mongoose stacks) would be preserved, but it would become a lot more raid viable.

Unique utility. While this suggestion might cause outrage from some BM or MM players, I do believe it is fairly reasonable. Currently you're making a lot of sacrifices with no "mechanical" advantages, I am not sure what exact utility would be a good fit for this. Some people have suggested Aspect of the Fox, but I believe it might not be that useful in current raid fight design. It could also be something similar to Enhancement's windfury, which isn't exceptionally strong, but it is unique and not shared with Elemental. Or possibly even simply getting to "steal" some other class utility as something like physical vulnerability boss debuff, or something similar.

A strong niche. Currently Survival's niche is closest to "single target with very even, non bursty damage", however that damage pattern is not ideal; in almost all raid and dungeon situations, if you are given a choice between two classes that do same overall dps but one is extremely bursty it will generally be the go to. As such, it's might benefit from getting a change to it's damage pattern, in becoming far more bursty, at the cost of slightly lower sustain, or if staying with the strong sustain, doubling down on the legion idea, and becoming an extemely potent dot spec - similar to Assassination, which while isn't always the best spec for rogues, is generally a very safe pick.