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Post by
Gone
Would "I Am Legend" fall under the category of zombies? If so I found this
clip
of someone's adaptation of it around the time the movie was coming out. I honestly found it worth watching. There's no special effects but I thought he did a good job of creating an atmosphere I like in zombie movies.
If you read the novel I Am Legend is supposed to be vampires. I didnt really care for the movie, I may have been spoiled by the book (better than Dracula).I thought it was better too.
And while they're "vampires" they have all the trademarks of zombies.
Except for sleeping during the day, being staked, being repelled by religious icons, intelligence, etc.I'm not saying that
are
exactly like zombies, merely that they're a permutation.
They are explained scientifically, rather than magically; they are the result of a virus; they attack in crowds; some of them come back from the dead...
George Romero took inspiration from I Am Legend for his movie
Night of the Living Dead.
No I know what you mean, a movie or book dosnt have to be about undead to be a zombie movie (quarentine, REC, 28 days later, Justin Biebers Never Say Never).
I dont really consider I Am Legend one though. They are vampires, its said a bunch of times in the book, their reprelled by crosses and garlic, they sleep during the day, killed by stakes (or just deep cuts later), they heal, and drink blood.
Post by
Adamsm
There are millions upon millions of different versions of zombies, from the magical types, the horror types, the scientific types, and the weird mixture of them all. The Romero Zeds are created due to a meteor crashing into a satellite and spreading radiation across the planet, and the radiation just happens to reanimate the dead.
The Walking Dead world has one of the more....vicious versions of it: You already carry it. We've seen it time and time again in the comics: characters die because of accidents, guns, deranged psychos, and as long as the brain is fine, they come back....as seen when the Twins die and the Mayor's answer to the TV shortage.
Resident Evil is the scientific version where the T/G/V virus affect everyone and everything differently; transforms a venus fly trap into a 30 foot monster that is capable of small movements to hunt, to the skinned dogs that are a standard, to the monster crows that the virus makes smarter and of course, the Human infection, which kills the host but then allows the body to keep moving. The G and V viruses are far worse; G mutates you into a massive monster while V just does straight up @#$%ed up things. Even in 4, it's a continuation of the G and V strains at work with a lot of the monsters and the like.
World War Z/Survival Guide to the Dead have the reanimation as a viral thing that occurs naturally in nature apparently...but people are the only ones who can be affected.
Then you have things like the ghouls from Hellsing: Intelligent(some times) zombies.
I'm not a huge fan of the rage version of the Zeds, but I'm also not a big fan of fast zombies.
Post by
ExDementia
It was influential in the development of the zombie genre and in popularizing the concept of a worldwide apocalypse due to disease.
Post by
donnymurph
Zombieland is clearly the best Zombie movie ever.
Post by
Monday
It was influential in the development of the zombie genre and in popularizing the concept of a worldwide apocalypse due to disease.
And? Wikipedia is not the answer, unless that sentence is clearly sourced around the word zombie.
Post by
Happyfisherman
I love zombies. I could write a lot about why I like them, but yeah. Games, movies, books, it's all cool.
Post by
Skreeran
It was influential in the development of the zombie genre and in popularizing the concept of a worldwide apocalypse due to disease.
And? Wikipedia is not the answer, unless that sentence is clearly sourced around the word zombie.I thought I Am Legend was about revolution. I said if you’re going to do something about revolution, you should start at the beginning. I mean, Richard starts his book with one man left; everybody in the world has become a vampire. I said we got to start at the beginning and tweak it up a little bit. I couldn’t use vampires because he did, so I wanted something that would be an earth-shaking change. Something that was forever, something that was really at the heart of it. I said, so what if the dead stop staying dead? ... And the stories are about how people respond or fail to respond to this. That’s really all ever represented to me. In Richard’s book, in the original I Am Legend, that’s what I thought that book was about. There’s this global change and there’s one guy holding out saying, wait a minute, I’m still a human. He’s wrong. Go ahead. Join them. You’ll live forever! In a certain sense he’s wrong but on the other hand, you’ve got to respect him for taking that position.
Source
Modern zombies were inspired by many things. H.P. Lovecraft's
Herbert West: Reanimator
and
I Am Legend
were two of them.
I never meant to imply I Am Legend vampires
are
zombies, I simply include them when discussing zombies because they're similar enough in the basics that I feel it's acceptable to include them. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks the earth as the living dead like a duck, them you might as well treat it like a zombie duck.
Plus, all of the "vampire" traits were explained away. Repelled by religious icons was psychosomatic, sleeping in the day was required by the disease (28 Days Later zombies slept during the day too), staking was to prevent regeneration, etc.
They're practically zombies, just with some additional symptoms.
Post by
Monday
They're practically
zombies
vampires, just with some additional symptoms.
Just saying. I'm not saying they aren't zombies, but they have more vampire traits than traditional zombie ones. Even if they're explained away, it just means that he's thought them out, not that they suddenly aren't zombies anymore.
Post by
Skreeran
But vampires are traditionally supernatural, powerful, intelligent, and are often nobility.
These "vampires" are bacterial, weak except in numbers, mindless (until the end of the book at least), and are composed of large numbers of infected common people.
That's practically the definition of a zombie, and it's what inspired George Romero to invent the modern zombie.
Yes, they're not called zombies (of course, neither are the 'zombies' in Left 4 Dead, 28 Days Later, and so on...), and they have specialized symptoms, but they're close enough that I lump them in the same category as the Ragers in 28 Days Later and the Infected in Left 4 Dead and the Necromorphs in Dead Space and the Plagas in Resident Evil 4. Even though none of them are true zombies, they're close enough in theme that I treat them the same.
Post by
Gone
But vampires are traditionally supernatural, powerful, intelligent, and are often nobility.
And zombies are usualy brain dead, rotting, eat human flesh, lack speech, and will only die by destroying the brain
These "vampires" are bacterial, weak except in numbers, mindless (until the end of the book at least), and are composed of large numbers of infected common people.
Actualy the vampires in the book are intelligent throughout, they just lack society. They are taunting and mocking the protaganist every night.
The creature from I Am Legend are not Zombies by any sence, I think you might be thinking of them as Zombies because Zombies and the Post Apocalyptic genre are always kind of linked, but other than that these creatures are much more like Vampires than Zombies.
Post by
Skreeran
And zombies are usualy brain dead, rotting, eat human flesh, lack speech, and will only die by destroying the brain.That's why I include them in the same catagory of "zombies" as Ragers, Infected, Plagas, Necromorphs, and other non-traditional zombies.
The first vampires in I Am Legend were undead as well, and until the living ones invented the pills, that was the state they all ended up in sooner or later.
Actualy the vampires in the book are intelligent throughout, they just lack society. They are taunting and mocking the protaganist every night.When I read it, I was under the impression that the vampires still possessed some speech, but were so stupid and animalistic that they were subhuman, rather akin to the traditional Vodun zombi.
That's why they didn't use weapons (until later with the vampire gangsters), that's why they didn't burn his house down, that's why they futilely waited outside Nevilles house all night, every night, that's why the woman he captured just snarled and whined at him, etc.
Note that permanent lack of intelligence is not
necessarily
demanded to be classified as a zombie. The Marvel Zombies have been mentioned in this thread, but they get their intelligence back for a little while after they've sated their hunger.
The creature from I Am Legend are not Zombies by any sence, I think you might be thinking of them as Zombies because Zombies and the Post Apocalyptic genre are always kind of linked, but other than that these creatures are much more like Vampires than Zombies.They may have vampire traits, but they're close enough to be considered a permutation of zombies, in my opinion. The mindless swarms, the strength in numbers, the bacterial epidemic, the cannibalism, etc.
Like I said, I don't put them in the same category as Romero and Brooks zombies (true zombies, but whatever category you put the Ragers, Infected, Plagas, Nemesis Parasite, Necromorphs, the Headcrab zombies, etc. in is what I put the I Am Legend vampires in.
Post by
Adamsm
And zombies are usualy brain dead, rotting, eat human flesh, lack speech, and will only die by destroying the brainYou've never read the books by Brian Keene have you?
Post by
Patty
And zombies are
usual
l
y
brain dead, rotting, eat human flesh, lack speech, and will only die by destroying the brainYou've never read the books by Brian Keene have you?
He means as a stereotypical basis of what a zombie is. Similar to vampires, werewolves... pretty much anything in fantasy.
Post by
Adamsm
Well that's the thing; there isn't a stereotypical version of Zombies anymore. Hell, even back then, there were 'of the Dead' and the 'Living Dead' movies; 'of the Dead' zombies were only capable of grunts and moans, slow movements, and the zombie standard. 'Living Dead' though, the zombies could talk, leading to the immortal line "Send more men"(spoken by a zombie to the cops), they could move fast, have sex, and just all around were really goofy even as they were extremely gory.
Post by
ExDementia
It was influential in the development of the zombie genre and in popularizing the concept of a worldwide apocalypse due to disease.
And? Wikipedia is not the answer, unless that sentence is clearly sourced around the word zombie.
No, it's not the answer, it's just saying that the book was influential in the direction the idea of zombies took.
Post by
Patty
Well that's the thing; there isn't a stereotypical version of Zombies anymore. Hell, even back then, there were 'of the Dead' and the 'Living Dead' movies; 'of the Dead' zombies were only capable of grunts and moans, slow movements, and the zombie standard. 'Living Dead' though, the zombies could talk, leading to the immortal line "Send more men"(spoken by a zombie to the cops), they could move fast, have sex, and just all around were really goofy even as they were extremely gory.
Well, there is. Without having watched every zombie flick ever, people have some clear key identifying features of zombies in mind.
One, they're dead. Two, they like BRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNZ. Three, they don't walk, they more use their legs (if they have them) to drag themselves to where they're going, or they walk like Frankenstein's monster. Four, they are badly decomposed, partially. Five, they're fairly unintelligent. Six, their bite makes you a zombie.
^ That is essentially the zombie archetype, which may be splitting now, but if you're not a zombie expert, it's what you think of.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, Romero's zombies have been moving fast lately so they've been evolving for years heh.
Post by
Patty
Well, Romero's zombies have been moving fast lately so they've been evolving for years heh.
Again though, it's an archetype and stereotype. Like almost everything, it has exceptions.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, Romero's zombies have been moving fast lately so they've been evolving for years heh.
Again though, it's an archetype and stereotype. Like almost everything, it has exceptions.
Yeah but now a days, the exception is the rule, and actually seeing the stereotypical zombie is incredibly rare.
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240140
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