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Adamsm
The Horde is, now, simply as gray as the Alliance.Gah! Don't say that! That's like throwing gasoline onto a camp fire!
Beyond that, I agree with Delt and Sigma.
Post by
taurenmoo812
You know a war is never built to be faught forever. I agree, Varian started this with his declaration of war. Garrosh is thick as holy hell, so took it as the chance to go to war.
What I find remarkable, is how they seemed to just write of Thrall here. He would have figured Garrosh's intent. So he either knew war was coming and left Garrosh in charge to go to war, or he pretended it wasn't gonna get this bad? Just seems writers are on the flow of writing of characters in the worst way now (Cough* malygos *cough).
The pendulum is set to swing back of course, but the thing is, unlike in warcraft 1 and 2, where ultimately, it lead to the victory of the alliance over the horde (the horde just chased the alliance away after they took stormwind, the horde was ultimately defeated, said so in the orcs opening intro). So what is this going to lead to? Is one side set to complete dominate the other? Can you really, honestly see that happening in WOW? Or can you accept its just gonna be another stalemate after a load of turf wars go down?
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GVHB
The pendulum is set to swing back of course, but the thing is, unlike in warcraft 1 and 2, where ultimately, it lead to the victory of the alliance over the horde (the horde just chased the alliance away after they took stormwind, the horde was ultimately defeated, said so in the orcs opening intro). So what is this going to lead to? Is one side set to complete dominate the other? Can you really, honestly see that happening in WOW? Or can you accept its just gonna be another stalemate after a load of turf wars go down?
It is going to be a stalemate. Blizzard won't make one faction more dominant than the other in WoW.
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Adamsm
Wrote Thrall off here? He's the 'uber-mench' shaman of the Gods, where else would he be apparently. And it will always be stalemate, as the factions can never win over each other...at least not in an MMO setting. You want something different, you'll have to stick to the RTS games.
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taurenmoo812
The pendulum is set to swing back of course, but the thing is, unlike in warcraft 1 and 2, where ultimately, it lead to the victory of the alliance over the horde (the horde just chased the alliance away after they took stormwind, the horde was ultimately defeated, said so in the orcs opening intro). So what is this going to lead to? Is one side set to complete dominate the other? Can you really, honestly see that happening in WOW? Or can you accept its just gonna be another stalemate after a load of turf wars go down?
It is going to be a stalemate. Blizzard won't make one faction more dominant than the other in WoW.
Exactly. All this smoke about all out wars just gonna lead to another cold war situation.
and who said I wanted that Adams? I'm stating a matter of fact here, one side will never beat the other in wow now, so all this one side dominating the other people have been forming is just.. hollow.
In all honesty, the way it works in wow, a perma cold war situation is more realistic then this going on in cata.
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GVHB
Dunno if cold war, in the end it may lead to a peaceful time or, at least, a time where both faction need to ally against a big treat (the war between the Light and the darkness for example).
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and who said I wanted that Adams? I'm stating a matter of fact here, one side will never beat the other in wow now, so all this one side dominating the other people have been forming is just.. hollow.
In all honesty, the way it works in wow, a perma cold war situation is more realistic then this going on in cata.
Every single one of your posts says otherwise.
And what do you mean more 'realistic'? Both sides suffer losses; Forsaken wipe out Gilneas City and the surrounding areas, sending the King and his people fleeing across the sea(damn that sounds familiar). Horde forces bomb and destroy an Alliance town in Stonetalon, and have pushed the Night Elves back to Astrannar in Ashenvale.
The Night Elves attacked and nearly wiped out the Shatterspear tribe. The Alliance took ground in the Southern Barrens, burning the town protecting the entrance into Mulgore. STV is a war zone between the two, as is Swamp of Sorrows. Alliance and Horde forces are fighting all across Azeroth, neither side 'dominating' the other, and the war is still in 'cold' as neither side can win in a two faction MMO.
Cold Wars only work if both sides are 'equal' and that's not the case in Azeroth post-Cataclysm seeing as so much of the world get's smashed and changed, altering the face of it. It's not just about "HORDE SMASH! ALLIANCE CRUSH!"...well, for everything but the Forsaken; for the other races it's about survival and gaining control of the supplies and land they need to survive.
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for everything but the Forsaken; for the other races it's about survival and gaining control of the supplies and land they need to survive.
For the Forsaken, it's taking over land that their enemies could use to further faceshiv them into oblivion.
Yeah but even the lands the Forsaken take are only good for the Forsaken; the rest of the Horde can't live in places like Tirisfal or Silverpine, seeing as most of the lands are still corrupted and dead after the Scourge invasion heh.
And not losing their rightful claim over Lordaeron.Well the dead humans; the dead Elves....not so much.
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Interest
This latest thing is probably one of the reasons Blizzard laments only doing 2 factions.
Meh, Aldor/Scryer was a pretty big deal back in Burning Crusade.
Post by
taurenmoo812
I don't know why the mechanics of a third faction would be hard. All they would need to do, it make a third option, out of choosing horde, alliance, and another faction whatever it would be called. You can choose any race to be part of that faction, but you then start of neutral with both horde and alliance. You then get the option to level rep with one side, not fully part of that faction (imagine like argent crusade is to horde/alliance), but enough to make the other side hostile with you, much like scryer and aldor.
you have no access to auction houses and banks in a faction city, but you would gain access to things when your reps higher.
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Adamsm
Because then everyone would be neutral, and it would go from war between the factions to just war against NPCs.
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Interest
I don't know why the mechanics of a third faction would be hard. All they would need to do, it make a third option, out of choosing horde, alliance, and another faction whatever it would be called. You can choose any race to be part of that faction, but you then start of neutral with both horde and alliance. You then get the option to level rep with one side, not fully part of that faction (imagine like argent crusade is to horde/alliance), but enough to make the other side hostile with you, much like scryer and aldor.
you have no access to auction houses and banks in a faction city, but you would gain access to things when your reps higher.
You might as well start at "Unfriendly" with both primary factions then.
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