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Post by Prateem

Alright I've been stalking the forums recently and people are mentioning obtaining 3k DPS with a FFB build and even higher on certain boss fights in Naxx.

I have trouble just obtaining 2k DPS. Keep in mind this is based on information from many heroic runs, and only one raid run in Naxx. Now I know raid buffs probably add a lot to the power of FFB, but still, I remember having a hard time reaching past 2k DPS in Naxx as well.

I don't have a set rotation for FFB yet either, as I can't seem to decide on one. Right now I've got Scorchx2, FFB x3, Living Bomb, FFB... etc. going on. Anyone have any recommendations on my rotation?

Edit: To add to the above, I do pop combustion as much as possible - I actually have it macro'd with FFB. Should I also be popping mirror image as much as possible, or saving it up?

And as for my armory link, here it is:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Lynne

I also realize this may just be a serious gear issue, but I still want some feedback .

Thanks guys =)

Post by Demonicmind

why having 383 hit rating with ghost hit from elemental precision?
you have 3.6% more than needed for frosfire bolt
go for spell power or crit rating instead?

Post by Prateem

As far as I knew, Ghost hit only worked for Frostbolt wasn't it?... Unless FFB is a binary spell as well - In which case I didn't know about it. And I also heard that ghost hit was actually removed from the game or something like that. Lots of info going around right now - hard to tell what's fake and what's the real deal.

But if Ghost Hit does affect FFB and it isn't going to be removed from the game, then I'll ditch 3.6% hit rating. But if it is going to be removed from the game, then I don't think I'll be replacing that hit rating as it'll bite me in the ass if ghost hit is gone.

Remember - FFB = Frostfire Bolt

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Post by nickseng

why having 383 hit rating with ghost hit from elemental precision?
you have 3.6% more than needed for frosfire bolt
go for spell power or crit rating instead?

He might be hit capped for FFB, but you still have to consider Scorch, Pyro and Living Bomb. Missing on those hurts almost as much.

Post by elilla

Don't forget pyroblast. That can count as much as 10% of your dps not counting ignites.

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Post by Xaeraa

Alright I've been stalking the forums recently and people are mentioning obtaining 3k DPS with a FFB build and even higher on certain boss fights in Naxx.

I have trouble just obtaining 2k DPS. Keep in mind this is based on information from many heroic runs, and only one raid run in Naxx. Now I know raid buffs probably add a lot to the power of FFB, but still, I remember having a hard time reaching past 2k DPS in Naxx as well.

I don't have a set rotation for FFB yet either, as I can't seem to decide on one. Right now I've got Scorchx2, FFB x3, Living Bomb, FFB... etc. going on. Anyone have any recommendations on my rotation?

Edit: To add to the above, I do pop combustion as much as possible - I actually have it macro'd with FFB. Should I also be popping mirror image as much as possible, or saving it up?

And as for my armory link, here it is:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dalaran&n=Lynne

I also realize this may just be a serious gear issue, but I still want some feedback .

Thanks guys =)

Your DPS wont be phenomenal in 5 mans, so don't expect it to be. With the need to do 2x scorch and the fairly long cast time on FFB your only going to get a few in before the mob dies. However, in raids (especially the 25 mans) your DPS should sore. You gear isn't terrible, but try to aim for a minimum of 25% fire crit unbuffed

As for your rotation, I generally open up with a Living Bomb first while I'm running up to the mob. Then once I'm stationary, 2x scorch, FFB spam with your instant pyro as needed.

You didn't mention what glyph's you were using either. I would suggest the Scorch Glyph, FFB Glyph, and Molten Armor Glyph. Some people say not to take the molten armor glyph, as the mage armor one is too important for the mana regen. I thought the same thing myself. But with the 2 set Tier 7 bonus along with proper rotation of your mana gems, you should never really even come close to running out of mana.

Also, keep in mind that your dps is completely reliant on RNG, so your damage is very bursty. One fight you may open up with multiple crits in a row, culminating in several Hot Sreak procs, making your dps sore. Other times, you may be critting every other cast, thus not getting many procs.

I can easily sustain 4k+ DPS on the tank and spank fights such as Patchwerk, Rezuvious, etc.

Post by elilla

BsIt was a bad laggy night in naxx, nothing like 1-4sec pauses in casts. So it was only 8%. And we called it very early. This is my overall data. It's very hard to keep a sustained rotation up when spells are nearly queued.

Actor Total ↓ % Hits Hits% Avg Max Dots Avg Max Crit Crit% Avg Max Glancing Glancing% Avg Max Crushing Crushing% Avg Max Missed Missed% Miss Miss% Resist Resist% Block Block% Parry Parry% Dodge Dodge% Other Miss Other Miss% Mitigated%
Frostfire Bolt () 4 479 487 43 % 388 52 % 3635 4571 549 39 47 354 47 % 8607 10877 6 0.8 % 6 0.8 % 2.7 % 477 63.8 % 125763 2.7 %
Blizzard (Frost) 1 678 892 16 % 1249 76 % 817 987 382 23 % 1721 2061 17 1.0 % 17 1.0 % 0.9 % 147 8.9 % 15348 0.9 %
Ignite (Fire) 1 582 761 15 % 765 2068 7613 3 0.4 % 3 0.4 %
Pyroblast (Fire) 872 778 8 % 49 40 % 4396 5608 352 258 318 68 56 % 8326 9931 5 4.1 % 3 2.5 % 2 1.6 % 2.9 % 185 151.6 % 26474 2.9 %
Living Bomb (Fire) 870 272 8 % 84 47 % 1825 2192 557 795 905 85 48 % 3223 4049 10 5.6 % 7 3.9 % 3 1.7 % 3.5 % 0.5 % 1 0.3 % 3.4 %

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