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So how about making WoW hard again?
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Post by
qwertydood
A skilled player is one who knows his rotations, knows his cooldowns, knows how to itemize, gem, and enchant, and can either execute the boss mechanics, or learns them relatively quickly.
(I'm not ignoring the rest of your post, just cutting it down)
Based on what you've said, it doesn't sound at all that difficult to be a successful WoW player. I think its safe to say that this game is relatively easy.
Easy to learn, hard to master.
I still haven't heard a legitimate reason for how how this game is hard to master other than citing how much people still fail at it.
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44284
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Post by
saruu
Cant Blizzard make wow harder ;-( Must the PuG'er deal with these retarded players in EVERY single raid...? I am a "dedicated" pugger (lolz) I PuG icc atleast 4-6 times a week on my different toons, there are atleast 1-3 people in each raid destroying for us... im fed up!
The suggestion i have is; weaken every individual player and make people rely more on teamwork and the players skill, not just faceroll = win. Yes the "worse" players will get frozen out since they probably wont get the "achievs" or "noobscore" required to raid, In order for them to get better, they have to research about how their class mechanics work so they can bring their best play to every raid instead of just making raids disband.
How does this sound?
P.S.
I know they are nerfing some AoE spells (cleave & whirlwind for example) im not really too up to date with the other classes besides warriors. Imo that is great.
Wheres your lk25h then you can complain.
Post by
Higloss
You have it backwards. If WoW gets harder, pugs will fail even sooner.
No you have it backwards, if wow gets harder, pugs wont exist.
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93865
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Post by
qwertydood
A skilled player is one who knows his rotations, knows his cooldowns, knows how to itemize, gem, and enchant, and can either execute the boss mechanics, or learns them relatively quickly.
(I'm not ignoring the rest of your post, just cutting it down)
Based on what you've said, it doesn't sound at all that difficult to be a successful WoW player. I think its safe to say that this game is relatively easy.
Easy to learn, hard to master.
I still haven't heard a legitimate reason for how how this game is hard to master other than citing how much people still fail at it.
That's all the proof that's needed.
LOL! I'd explain to you why this is completely false with countless reasons and analogies, but that'd be too easy for you. I'll let you figure it out ;)
Actually, if you think WoW is hard...
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44284
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Post by
qwertydood
Then if WoW is easy, why doesn't everyone have LK on heroic?
Why didn't everyone get Ulduar HMs when Uld was endgame?
Because not everyone has/had the amount of time required to farm bosses for good enough gear to do those fights.
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Post by
Dragoonman
Meh nobody should take this stuff too seriously.
People think that the time factor is huge, and to be honest it is a big thing. No matter what our respective skill levels if you have more time to play this rated for teens video game, you will have an advantage over someone that does not have as much time to spend getting the same amount of gear.
Skill can close that gap and make the difference much more negligible, but regardless, at same play level, better gear = better performance. Therefore if you have more time to get gear than someone that can play at the same level as you, you will outperform them.
The top guilds are top guilds for a reason, they are in a better position to only accept highly skilled players. They have far far far more time to spend attempting progression. Top guilds will wipe over and over trying to perfect an encounter.
I have a full time job, i have a family, i have other obligations. I get on average maybe six hours of playtime in a week. So even though i am a skilled player, the current iteration of wow is ok with me, i like that it is not required to work as hard to get up to the higher levels of gear and content.
Blizzard has been making more changes to make it easier for casual players. Lots of players disagree with this, but keep in mind YOU are the minority. For every single person that devotes over 25% of their life to wow, can spend 4 hours a night wiping on the same boss over and over in the name of progression, there are 50 people that just log on for fun every once in a while.
You might have the skills to pay the bills, but sorry those said skills dont pay the bills, its the casual people that do that. Its the noob rpers that have special outfits and throw little wow parties with their friends, its the 12 and 13 year olds that so many people despise, its the 30 year old guy like myself that plays one night a week to try a heroic LK kill.
If the video game isnt hard enough for you, then graduate to something bigger, join the army or something, idk, find some direction. What happens when you beat a video game that is too easy, you move on to another one, you dont relentlessly whine and complain its not hard enough.
I understand its hard. For many people, they have devoted large chunks of their life to wow, and now that they have lost the little sense of entitlement of being a bada$$ they are all upset because they feel like they have wasted that time, they are waiting for that gratification or reward to set them apart from everyone else, and guess what, its not coming, it never will, its a video game.
You used to be able to strut around with your epeen and feel like you were better than everyone else, and now your upset that all that work was really for nothing.
The sad thing is that most of the people complaining probably didnt even enjoy the ride, the journey as aetsu put it. They just put their heads down and mindlessly worked towards a goal that didnt exist.
Said with absolute perfection.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
LOL! I'd explain to you why this is completely false with countless reasons and analogies, if I actually had countless reasons and analogies
Post by
HoleofArt
I have a full time job, i have a family, i have other obligations. I get on average maybe six hours of playtime in a week. So even though i am a skilled player, the current iteration of wow is ok with me, i like that it is not required to work as hard to get up to the higher levels of gear and content.
I raid 2 days a week, for those 6 hours you just mentioned, and fully clear ToGC 4/5, 11/12Heroic ICC 25m, and 25m RS (with attempts on Heroic) in that time slot.
Therefore, I play as much as the so called "casuals" and yet I outperform that group greatly. The time constraint isn't as big of an excuse as people make it out to be.
LOL! I'd explain to you why this is completely false with countless reasons and analogies, if I actually had countless reasons and analogies
So you're saying you agree with him that this game doesn't have challenges? Doesn't have a certain level of difficulty? Why then, do all these people fail at it?
I've still yet to see a counter-argument against that - not counting the time constraint argument, which I've just shown holds up to nothing.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
So you're saying you agree with him that this game doesn't have challenges? Doesn't have a certain level of difficulty? Why then, do all these people fail at it?
I've still yet to see a counter-argument against that - not counting the time constraint argument, which I've just shown holds up to nothing.
read again, I am saying that he is full of it
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Post by
HoleofArt
So you're saying you agree with him that this game doesn't have challenges? Doesn't have a certain level of difficulty? Why then, do all these people fail at it?
I've still yet to see a counter-argument against that - not counting the time constraint argument, which I've just shown holds up to nothing.
read again, I am saying that he is full of it
Who is full of it? Qwerty or Aestu? You quoted Qwerty who was addressing Aestu, but in that context, either of them could be considered "full of it".
$%^&ing facepalm.
Nevermind.
Post by
qwertydood
LOL! I'd explain to you why this is completely false with countless reasons and analogies, if I actually had countless reasons and analogies
It's not that hard to think up an analogy as to why citing that people fail at an activity proves that it is difficult. I just choose to not waste my time thinking for you guys ;)
I have a full time job, i have a family, i have other obligations. I get on average maybe six hours of playtime in a week. So even though i am a skilled player, the current iteration of wow is ok with me, i like that it is not required to work as hard to get up to the higher levels of gear and content.
I raid 2 days a week, for those 6 hours you just mentioned, and fully clear ToGC 4/5, 11/12Heroic ICC 25m, and 25m RS (with attempts on Heroic) in that time slot.
Therefore, I play as much as the so called "casuals" and yet I outperform that group greatly. The time constraint isn't as big of an excuse as people make it out to be.
I've still yet to see a counter-argument against that - not counting the time constraint argument, which I've just shown holds up to nothing.
I'm sorry, but isn't being able to complete all the endgame content excluding the final boss in 6 hours every week conclusive evidence that the game is easy...?
Post by
HoleofArt
I'm sorry, but isn't being able to complete all the endgame content excluding the final boss in 6 hours every week conclusive evidence that the game is easy...?
Why then, do all these people fail at it?
I'm in the minority. Look at the big picture.
Post by
goshadstep2lose
It's not that hard to think up an analogy as to why citing that people fail at an activity proves that it is difficult. I just choose to not waste my time thinking for you guys ;)
except thats exactly what you are doing
doing it poorly doesn't mean you aren't doing it
and obvious dodging is painfully obvious- support your claims or gtfo
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