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Post by
DrDrako
can you increase the amount of mana gained per hit with this seal? like say... with spell damage or healing?
Post by
blademeld
not in any way I know of
Post by
DrDrako
1 more question, does it scale with weapon damage?
say im using a fast sword, and i run low on mana, can i equip a fast sword/dagger and get equal amounts of mana per hit?
Post by
blademeld
no, and no
however, you will get more mana returns with a faster weapon on JoW
JoW is a fixed percentile while SoW is a PPM
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Post by
DrDrako
ty for the info
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Post by
JamieK
i believe that they are taking out the ability to put on multiple judges on the same target....i read it somewhere.
Which pretty much takes away the paladins' raid utility.
Post by
Ronark
i believe that they are taking out the ability to put on multiple judges on the same target....i read it somewhere.
Which pretty much takes away the paladins' raid utility.
Yes you can have multiple Judgements but there are only 3 now, and you can't (nor ever) have 2 JoW or JoL's on the same target. However, in most cases, a Ret's version of JoW will be better than the Holy Version of JoW because of the scaling.
You can argue this from multiple views though. What does a Ret paladin bring as Utility?
All paladins can bring these to a raid:
Judgements (Light/Wisdom)
Blessings
Hands
Ret paladins alone can bring:
Replenishment buff
+3% Crit on all attacks against judged mobs
+2% to all damage
+3% Haste to all attacks AND spells (includes healing)
Healing in the form of DS
They also now can emergency heal, i.e. if you need to keep an MT up to finish off the boss/mob's last 3% health or so.
Again one can say "X class also brings Y utility to the raid as well!", but this is Blizzard's focus so you end up choosing a person based on skill rather than their set of buffs.
Post by
Dunsinane
However, in most cases, a Ret's version of JoW will be better than the Holy Version of JoW because of the scaling.
Used to be true earlier in the beta. No longer is. Wowhead's entry is running a few builds behind.
Judgement of Wisdom is now a flat 2% of the attacker's total mana pool returned, so it makes no difference which Paladin puts it up.
Judgement of Light is still based upon the paladin's AP and SP (18% of each). This favors a Ret Paladin, who will likely have the highest total of the two stats.
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Post by
Ronark
neither crusader strike nor melee refresh judgments anymore. so any holy pally has to rejudge every 20 seconds to keep up the debuff(s).
Melee strikes DO refresh YOUR judgement: But when Ret/Prot you will be judging every 8/9/10 seconds anyhow...
Also, if you have a Prot Paladin and Ret paladin in your raid, a Holy paladin will not need to upkeep a Judgement Debuff on the target, using JoJ as a filler to trigger
Judgements of the Pure
.
And with having
Enlightened Judgements
increasing the range of Judgement spell by 15/30 (Wowhead tooltips are old) for the full 40 yards, you can easily slip in a GCD for the exrta haste (i.e. when you have to move, etc.)
Post by
Dunsinane
Melee strikes DO refresh YOUR judgement:
Not anymore.
Post by
d3xx
I'd be interested to know what the optimal seal and judgement combo is for Ret grinding.
Post by
ArgentSun
Judgement of Wisdom scales with SP/AP. Seal of Wisdom doesn't.
Both Seal and Judgement of Light scale with SP/AP. Which is why I prefer having my Ret pally judging Light on the boss - their JoL simply heals for more (up to 700 in Northrend blues).
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