Mass Effect 3 Thread.

Post by Rankkor

Well Thor, I've unlocked an Asari Adept too, and u know what? now I'm hooked to that one instead of Vanguard or Infiltrator xD.

Here's what I do:

Max Stasis, give the adept a sniper (And ONLY a sniper) and let it rip.

Dunno why, but I've been giving snipers to just about every class I've played except Vanguard (no real reason to give a class that excels in close-combat a long-range weapon.) and they absolutely rock.

Snipers pretty much make all the weapons look like pea-shooters. If you got the accuracy to make a headshot, that is. I use the Mantis (Since the viper is a pea-shooter sniper, gotta unload like 3 shots to kill something, 2 if headshot, and haven't unlocked the widow yet)

As an adept all I keep doing over and over is freeze targets and then BOOM headshot. The main problem is that the targets I "tag" with stasis tend to glow, and if there are other snipers in my team they have this very annoying habit of stealing my f*bleep*king kills >.>

scavengers the lot of them..........

Other that that, I find that sniping as an adept is far more practical than as an Infiltrator, since Infiltrators can only cloak to "trick" the enemy into going to cover and then snipe them in the head. As an adept I can freeze any enemy, any time, anywhere, allowing for easy head-shots. This includes those INCREDIBLY ANNOYING PHANTOMS that, in more than one occasion have wiped out my entire team in seconds. (And yes, this STILL includes enemies protected by shields/barriers/armor)

As a secondary power I got warp, since I'm only packing a sniper it has a very short CD (3 secs) and can liberally spam it on any atlas that shows up to kill it quickly (after my team has worn out its shields that is)

Edit: Of course, this Asari Adept Sniper gig only works on Bronze. Tried my luck in silver and got my ass handed back to me. Then again I still don't have the passive weapon boosts, and am still using that crappy mantis rifle. Once I get the Widow III things will be different.

Post by Thror

I don't know. The last matches I have played, I used my Katana shotgun with Cryo ammo, and was playing rather aggressively, and I did pretty well. My warp CD is so small that I can pump two shotgun shots between subsequent warps, and I kill an enemy in a warp+shot combo, so I can do quite a rampage. I still kinda lack some sort of a unique utility. Perhaps I should level Stasis in the AoE path, that ends with Bubble. That could be interesting.

I can sure imagine why you had trouble in Silver. The difficulty ramps up ridiculously, and while in Bronze you can win with the "we are four Chuck Norrises" strategy, in Silver you need some form of cooperation, AND gear. Hard to do with a pug. You could actually draw very good paralells between bronze and LFG, silver and normal diff raiding and gold and heroic raiding.

Seriously, that is such a good multiplayer they made there.

Post by Rankkor

You could actually draw very good paralells between bronze and LFG, silver and normal diff raiding and gold and heroic raiding.

not quite.

I've done LFR on wow, and its damn near impossible to lose.

I've lost some matches on bronze.

Honestly I'm impressed at the degree of tuning they did with the difficulty.

Bronze is semi-hard, its like playing the single-player campaign on Normal.

Silver is quite hard, and as you said, it would require a coordinated team using vent.

Don't even wanna imagine how Gold would be like.

in Silver you need some form of cooperation, AND gear. Hard to do with a pug.

kinda sucks that when the retail game is released you're gonna have to pretty much start over again, from zero. Will have to farm again all the weapons, all the characters, and extra bitsies.

Not quite me though U_U seeing as I likely wont be able to play the retail version (Due to the way-too-often-mentioned-reasons-related-to-antivideogame-laws-in-my-country) it means this demo will be my only time tasting the multi-player.

Quite a shame too, because it IS a very fun, engaging, and adictive little game. That it adds extra bonuses on the single-player campaign is an added bonus too.

I kinda like how I was able to customize the armor of my Infiltrator, will upload a screenshot later on. Sucks how on my asari adept I can't customize squat =/

And I dunno man, Stasis+Sniper shot to the head is a DEADLY combo, and I've been able to 1shot just about everything with it on Bronze (and acording to a lot of people on the BSN, it IS possible to do so on Silver too if you have the widow II or better). Of course, you'd need some quick reflexes and good accuracy to make it work........... and that there are no other snipers on your team as they CAN AND WILL steal your kills if you try this >.< (incredibly annoying, trust me, to the point that I no longer join teams where anyone other than me uses a sniper anymore, I tag a target with stasis, and presto, someone WILL steal it)

Post by Thror

You know what Rank, I think every major RPG's topic is always going to start with like two or three pages of us two talking about stuff. xD

Post by Rankkor

I've noticed that trend too xD.

Post by xlanadenx

I'm not one to link TB's videos but this one I had to share. It seems like there's a lot of dlc already planned for ME3 and some of them are really big deals. (Read: Not purely cosmetic but affects the story severely) The problem is, you get this dlc if you buy the special edition but will have to buy it for 10 dollars if you bought the regular edition.

I'd like to hear some opinions on this, specifically rankorr.

Post by ElhonnaDS

My poor star wars guild- I stopped leveling the character I am going to be raiding with them on, and have gone back to finish up ME2 games. I may drop off Star Wars for like a month or two.

And as far as DLC, I don't think there's anything "wrong" with it. I bought a collector's edition. If I hadn't, I'd appreciate the chance to get the bonus content after the fact. If I like a game, and the DLC looks good, I'll buy it. They did something similar with an extra character in DA & DA2, ME2, etc. If you don't want it, don't buy it. If you do, then buy it. If you think it's overpriced, vote with your wallet.

EDIT: I find it funny that with Star Wars, everyone complained because they didn't think the collector's editions came with enough stuff. Now, everyone is complaining because the ME3 collector's edition comes with too much stuff- lol

Post by xlanadenx

And as far as DLC, I don't think there's anything "wrong" with it. I bought a collector's edition. If I hadn't, I'd appreciate the chance to get the bonus content after the fact. If I like a game, and the DLC looks good, I'll buy it. They did something similar with an extra character in DA & DA2, ME2, etc. If you don't want it, don't buy it. If you do, then buy it. If you think it's overpriced, vote with your wallet.

If it was just a new character, it would be fine but it's not.
Though I think it's a ridiculous concept in itself. Imagine having Tidus and Yuna but having to buy the DLC for Auron.

The thing is that the character that is available for dlc is:
A Prothean. You know, a race that was supposed to be extinct. The race that had knowledge but was only accessible by Shepard and even then it was vague information. The reason Shepard is so important is because he/she was the only one who could explore more about the race.

Then out of the blue "lol prothies exist but u has 2 pay" How can a Prothean just be an extra character? How can it be expected to take a backseat to Shepard?

It's one thing to provide aesthetics such as new armor/skins and maybe unimportant characters. But to include such a character that undoubtedly affects the plot majorly. It seems like they're charging more to enrich the plot of a story.

Post by ElhonnaDS

Every other collector's edition/DLC character that bioware has ever added has had one or two extra missions that come with them, and have a few lines of dialogue if they're in your party on major missions, but they don't change the course of the story. Shale, Sebastian, Zaheed, Kasumi- they all enhanced the game, but none of them changed it. This one won't either. This has been their business model for the last 3 major games- it's not new. They always give an extra character with the collector's edition, and then let people buy it if they want to add it to a normal edition.

And it's intended as a bonus for the people who bought the collector's edition- they're just letting people who didn't buy the collector's edition upgrade to it separately. Are they not supposed to make the collector's edition worthwhile? I thought that was what everyone complained about in Star Wars- that there wasn't enough digital material to justify the price of the collector's edition. The argument for this game is that the material is too cool for a collector's edition? Would it be more fair for them to not offer it as DLC, and tell people if they didn't pre-order the CE then they'll just be out of luck?

Post by Rankkor

This is why I've never liked the idea of DLCs.

I'd much rather expansion packs than DLCs.

Imagine if on wow, rather than make us buy MoP, they'd made us pay for each tier of armor. "You need to pay 10 bucks to allow your toon to purchase tier 14 and season 12 gear"

Do you guys realize that the combined cost of all the DLCs for ME2 probably cost twice the pricing of the complete game? and that the ACTUAL content added by all those DLCs is just a couple of extra hours worth of content?

I would had much more prefered if they had pulled an expansion pack that added all in a row, Overlord, Lair of shadow broker, and Arival than have their current business model.

Sadly, that's not for me to decide, and unfortunately, I'm not entitled to an opinion to give here, because as I've stated before, games are not "sold" in my country, I have to either resort to black-market overprized goods (and by overprized I mean 9x times the cost) or piracy.

Since I don't have a goose that lays golden eggs, I (unfortunately) have to resort to the latter.

Heck, just check how much ME3 DIGITAL costs in my currency: http://i.imgur.com/Qc0vQ.png that's almost half of what I make in a month. Imagine if you had to pay 1000 dollars for a videogame.........

=/ so on this regard I really can't express an opinion. I will say however, that charging money for non-cosmetic features in a game is unethical, and not really justified.

if it was James Vega the one who required the DLC, I'd probably not give a rat's ass. He's a new character, one how undoubtly has his quirks, his nice dialog, his nice mission, and what not, but an actual PROTHEAN as a DLC-exclusive........... yeah, that's one line too far.

What is bioware coming to? :S

Post by Fwibbles

I just hate that everything they don't put into the original game (or were, then removed only to be put in later) has to cost a lot. Especially the single character ones.

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Post by Rankkor

I just hate that everything they don't put into the original game (or were, then removed only to be put in later) has to cost a lot. Especially the single character ones.

I don't really mind if the character is non-vital to the story, and if the content is just cosmetical, but come on........... a FRIKKING PROTHEAN? WTF?

I don't think there's any justification to not put him with the vanilla game.

O.0 I never heard anything about a Prothean DLC addition, any chance I could get a link

it was revealed by accident. Its a DLC that adds a prothean squad member, complete with loyalty mission and all.

Considering how BIG the protheans are in the game, something like this should had been included in the vanilla game. I don't find it excusable that they actually ask their clients to pay 1/5fth of the game's value for something this important.

Its the same reason I dislike DLCs in general. Unlike expansions, DLCs often add just a weee bit of content, but cost just as much (if not more than) expansions.

Shivering Isles for Oblivion had a decent price, and added tons of weapons, armor, continent, quests, ect ect ect.

Horse armor costs a LOT of money, and just added a stupid fugly armor for your horses. :S

The difference between Horse armor and a Prothean squad member, is that the former is just a gimmick, the latter is an IMPORTANT adition to the lore, and one that simply CANT be skipped.

Post by Neffy

What is bioware coming to?

Mhm.

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Post by ElhonnaDS

They made an announcement yesterday about it. They said that they've been saying that the collector's edition would have a bonus squadmate- just like the other games have- and this is him. He comes with two missions, a weapon, and an alternate appearance for each of the squad mates (separate from the basic alternate appearance that comes with the collector's edition). We're getting it free with the collector's edition. They put it up as DLC so that people who didn't get the CE had a chance to not miss him.

They said something along the lines of this being a companion who would appeal to fans who were really into the lore, which is the reason he's part of the collector's edition.

Post by Rankkor

it was revealed by accident. Its a DLC that adds a prothean squad member, complete with loyalty mission and all.

Considering how BIG the protheans are in the game, something like this should had been included in the vanilla game. I don't find it excusable that they actually ask their clients to pay 1/5fth of the game's value for something this important.

Its the same reason I dislike DLCs in general. Unlike expansions, DLCs often add just a weee bit of content, but cost just as much (if not more than) expansions.

Shivering Isles for Oblivion had a decent price, and added tons of weapons, armor, continent, quests, ect ect ect.

Horse armor costs a LOT of money, and just added a stupid fugly armor for your horses. :S

The difference between Horse armor and a Prothean squad member, is that the former is just a gimmick, the latter is an IMPORTANT adition to the lore, and one that simply CANT be skipped.

Don't you dare compare modern DLC's to Horse Armor. Historically, Horse Armor was the first DLC ever. Not just for Bethesda, but ever

Shivering Isles was an Expansion Set, not a DLC. If there's anything it should be compared to, it's other expansion sets (e.g. The Frozen Throne)

If you want to compare current DLC's, pick FO3/FNV DLC's, because they are Bethesda's current idea of how large/expensive a DLC pack should be. Not Horse Armor.

Which was exactly my point man.

Shivering Isles was an EXPANSION rather than a DLC. Which is something that I prefer FAR MORE. Because with an expansion you actually get a really nice money-per-content ratio. With a DLC, you just pay overpriced amounts of money for what is basically at most a couple of extra hours of gameplay.

its absurd.

I wish we could go back to the age were DLCs didnt exist, and companies simply made expansion packs for their games. At least THEN you'd get your money's worth in content.

but alas, gaming companies (all of them, this isn't simply bioware or bethesda) realized that DLCs give more $_$ than expansion packs, and require FAR LESS WORK to make, so that's the model they are using from now on. From the moment a game launches, to the moment the sequel is made, they'll make so many DLCs (many of them NOT OPTIONAL) that we end up paying twice the cost of the vanilla product.

:S this is the future of gaming, and there's nothing we can do to stop it.

Post by ElhonnaDS

Post by Rankkor

Rank- did you see anything I wrote about the fact that this is a free part of the collector's edition, and the only reason it's listed as DLC is because they want it to be available to people who didn't buy the CE? Do you think that a collector's edition shouldn't have bonuses like this?

absolutely.

Come on, if it was any extra squadmate ala zaheed or kasumi I probably woudln't care so much, but we're talking about a PROTHEAN. That they ask the fans to pay extra cash for something like that simply isn't fair. I agree Collector's editions should come with extra goodies, and they do they have the dog, they have the hoodie, the N7 weapon pack, heck, trow extra costumes, trow customizable skins for the normandy, or extra ship models exclusive to collector's edition, but not this.

This is a BIG part of the lore, and considering it was made PRE-LAUNCH it should be included in the vanilla game. Asking players to buy the special edition, or pay extra cash for it is just not fair it would be as outrageous as blizz asking players to pay extra money (on top of buying the expansion) just to be able to buy the next tier set on each major patch that follows.

Like I've said, I woudln't care if it was a non-important party member like Shale was on Dragon Age, or Sebastian was on Dragon Age 2, or Zaheed/Kasumi were on Mass Effect 2, but we're talking about a bloody protean. Something this big should be in the game as default, specially since it was made pre-launch.

Edit: Please put this into perspective.

They're basically dangling on top of our heads the secret of how the protheans survived, an insight into their mentality, a chance to talk to an actual living prothean after over 50k years of not seeing one alive, and furthermore, all known others being transformed into collectors. And then, after showing us this fine candy, one that we really SHOULD be getting for buying the game, they then say "STOP: to know the secret, pay up. Either 20 extra bucks on collector's edition, or 10 bucks as DLC. your choise"

That sounds a lot like how Scientology operates if we get down to it. "You wanna know the secrets of the universe and your place in it? well, rather than just tell you, since that's what a religion is, to bring hope to their converts, we are gonna charge you 3000 dollars. Pay up and the knowledge you seek is yours"

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