Does Spell Reflection have any use in PvE situations?

Post by Onijitsu

I know that some spells can be reflected back at bosses in Burning Crusade content, but with later content they cannot be reflected.

What I am wondering is: can you use Spell Reflect as a damage-reduction CD of sorts? So that, even if it doesn't actually REFLECT the spell, the spell being used against your warrior gets stopped cold?

Post by WTBaggrodump

I'm not sure if there are any spells that bosses throw out that you can spell reflect, but generally no. It's good if the trash before the bosses do some kind of crazy targeted spell damage, but that's all I can think of. I really wish there was some sort of boss mechanic you could reflect back at him/her, at the very least a slow or some sort of debuff, doesn't have to be damage.

Post by Zakkhar

I'm not sure if there are any spells that bosses throw out that you can spell reflect, but generally no.
In raids no - bosses at least, but in 5mans yes. Some trash or additional adds in boss encounters should be reflectable though.
It was too overpowered (for both warriors and Dks) so they removed it, so it doesnt greatly favour one class over the other. You got a remnants of it in Feng the Accursed fight:
http://www.wowhead.com/object=211628#comments which is available for all tank classes.

Post by Onijitsu

Thanks for the answers guys, and yeah, I'm a bit disappointed about this.

Shamans can glyph their grounding totems to reflect spells... the same question came up with boss fights. But no, no good.

Seems to me that it wouldn't have to be OP. Just to allow Warriors to use it as a CD. Mass Spell Reflection could work in a manner similar to a Monk's Zen Meditation. Bummer that they won't let warriors use these abilities to help their raids.

Post by Zakkhar

Spell must be a certain type to be even subject to spell reflection, must require a target.
Aoe spells, volley spells, cone spells never were reflectable.
It also has to be possible to time your spell reflect - instant casts without timers are usually pretty hard to counter if not impossible. So it either needs to have a timer and therfore be some do_die ability, which should be interrupted or have to have cast time.

I dont think there are any boss spells fulfilling these conditions in the current raid content. The rest would be only stealable by Dark Simulacrum, which would overpower Dk tanks and dps greatly, especially in 25mans as these spells are supposed to do very high damage.

What makes me personally sad is that succesful reflect no longer gives 60 rage (or any rage).

Post by svl007

the reason why you can't reflect spells anymore is the same as why your idea will never get through either.

In TBC blizzard didn't mind saying they thought of warriors as the main tank and could just model bosses around that. When they decided all tanks should be equal, skills like reflect had to go out as to not create an imbalance between tanks.

Post by Metabii

The only real use I've found for it is in solo-content (mainly Brawler's Guild) and on certain trash mobs.

Post by richert

The spells cast by two of the protectors of the endless and Lei Shi in Terrace of the Endless Spring can be deflected by spell reflect.

Does Spell Reflection have *any* use in PvE situations?