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Chestplate of A'dal vs. Hauberk of the War Bringer
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Post by
Xanxuo
1 agi = .03% crit for warriors
1 crit rating = .045238...% crit for warriors
Chestplate of A'dal:
+35 str
+27 stm
+22 hit rating
+25 crit rating
total of 70 ap, 270 health, ~1.131% crit, and 22 hit rating (uneeded in this comparison because you can spare it)
Hauberk of the War Bringer
Binds when picked upChest Mail
812 Armor
+24 Agility
+25 Stamina
+17 Intellect
+8 str gem
+8 agi gem
+8 agi gem
Socket Bonus: +8 Attack Power
Equip: Improves haste rating by 20 (1.27% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 76.
108 AP, 250 health, 1.2% crit, 20 haste (1.27%)
insane changes yet nobody seems to agree on the hauberk of the war bringer page. maybe not enough cool kids have seen it yet. it just gets downrated but no explanation as to why. maybe it needs more caps. iono. anyhow, for a warrior that can afford to drop 22 hit rating, would you guys feel that this would be a terrific upgrade for a dps warrior just starting raids over chestpiece of a'dal. kthnx
Post by
106896
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Xanxuo
i didnt "just" start raiding but i've ben 70 for like a year, i just never do anything. but i can max my hit rating out at 171 (around 150 w/o kara gear). you easily have hit to spare unless you ARENT raid ready imo. you may feel differently but i dont. i think that you should have a lot of hit rating so you can get different pieces with hit rating, crit, and AP so you can toss gear around when you get pieces and never worry about going under your hit rating target. otherwise you're gonna get an epic that doesnt have hit rating on it and you're gonna go under and will be worthless dps.
that's my view of the raid ready dps warrior. i figured other people would have the smae view.
fury (imo) is the better starting dps warrior spec because the itemization is better at first. once you get your gorehowl (or s1 2h if you're going that way) then go MS because blood frenzy is simply unbeatable. plyou should have a shaman in your group for WF totem. MS still gives you acess to deep wounds and impale (duh) and then flurry, sweeping strikes and and enrage (flurry only if you dont take tactical mastery so you dont have to respec for pvp). and with MS you'll get imp slam for rage dumps and not dropping dps when your aggro gets too high. plus the ever popular deathwish.
dont tell me about dps warriors. i wanna hear opinions about the chest piece.
Post by
Aris
I think peoples resistance is on the fact that its a loot drop more fitting
for other class's. Now if it were a quest reward, or a heroic badge item,
i doubt you'd see so much resistance. People get really cranky when
people roll on "obviously not your class" loot, especially when another
class in the party would utilize it better.
Now i guess if your in a group without a hunter or shammy, or they either
already have it, or have better, then sure take it. I doubt any other class
will care.
But as far as primary loot, there is better from the same instance specifically
tailored just for dps warriors.
Post by
Xanxuo
stated that on the item's page. forgot to here. sowwy.
Post by
axhed
uh...
you're asking if this mail piece with +int is better for a dw fury warr and you want us to ignore the +hit on the plate piece? is that correct?
i just want to make sure i understand the question before i answer it.
Post by
Aris
uh...
you're asking if this mail piece with +int is better for a dw fury warr and you want us to ignore the +hit on the plate piece? is that correct?
i just want to make sure i understand the question before i answer it.
Yes, he wants us to ignore the fact that it has INT on it, and that its mail.
And then focus on the fact that your AP/Crit would increase with it, and then you trade hit for some haste.
Like i said, long as no hunters or shaman in your group need it, go for it. But if i see a warrior with it, i'm gunna laugh at them. Just like i laugh at dps warriors that wear leather rogue gear.
Post by
Xanxuo
also the lack of AP gain on the S1 chest piece keeps it out of the equation so dont bring it up.
Post by
Aris
also the lack of AP gain on the S1 chest piece keeps it out of the equation so dont bring it up.
You do realize that 1str = 2ap right?
The S1 Chest has 23str, and 3 sockets. You put 3x 8str gems in it,
and now your up to 47str, AKA 94 AP
So it ends up being:
1547 armor, 94AP, 490 health, 12 hit rating, 30 crit rating.
vs your mail with +8str gems:
812 armor, 124AP, 250 health, 20 haste.
IMO:
735 Armor, 240 health, 12 hit rating and 30 crit rating > 30AP, 20 haste
Post by
Mogarane
1 agi = .03% crit for warriors
1 crit rating = .045238...% crit for warriors
Chestplate of A'dal:
+35 str
+27 stm
+22 hit rating
+25 crit rating
total of 70 ap, 270 health, ~1.131% crit, and 22 hit rating (uneeded in this comparison because you can spare it)
Hauberk of the War Bringer
Binds when picked upChest Mail
812 Armor
+24 Agility
+25 Stamina
+17 Intellect
+8 str gem
+8 agi gem
+8 agi gem
Socket Bonus: +8 Attack Power
Equip: Improves haste rating by 20 (1.27% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 76.
108 AP, 250 health, 1.2% crit, 20 haste (1.27%)
insane changes yet nobody seems to agree on the hauberk of the war bringer page. maybe not enough cool kids have seen it yet. it just gets downrated but no explanation as to why. maybe it needs more caps. iono. anyhow, for a warrior that can afford to drop 22 hit rating, would you guys feel that this would be a terrific upgrade for a dps warrior just starting raids over chestpiece of a'dal. kthnx
I would put 3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24027
(8 str) instead of 8 agi.
you will get more dps out of it and the 22 hit is 10x better
Plus all the warriors will make fun of the 17 int on it :P
Post by
Xanxuo
but if you dont put the +8 agi gem in there, you're losing crit from switching chest pieces (or coming close) and you're only gaining 4 ap for putting in an extra 8 str gem. not a smart move.
Post by
Xanxuo
also the lack of AP gain on the S1 chest piece keeps it out of the equation so dont bring it up.
You do realize that 1str = 2ap right?
The S1 Chest has 23str, and 3 sockets. You put 3x 8str gems in it,
and now your up to 47str, AKA 94 AP
So it ends up being:
1547 armor, 94AP, 490 health, 12 hit rating, 30 crit rating.
vs your mail with +8str gems:
812 armor, 124AP, 250 health, 20 haste.
IMO:
735 Armor, 240 health, 12 hit rating and 30 crit rating > 30AP, 20 haste
you forgot to add in the agi for the mail chest piece. so it's a tiny crit loss. an ap gain, hp/armor are not of the matter.
if you're gemming your pvp gear with str instead of resil/stam, something is wrong. but i mean if you just wanna pve in it, go for it, but you dont need armor that much when you're not taking very much dmg. when you take dmg in raids, it's usually magic dmg or from a cleave effect that can be avoided. if you need your resil and high hp to dps in pve, then you must be good. but last time i checked, you only need 33% crit to keep flurry up at all times and you get that delivered in a good raid group. a gain in haste is nice if you can spare hit rating. dont toss hit rating into this comparison. we're throwing that out because we were smart and got as much as we could so we can mix our gear around so that we dont go under our hit rating target.
to sum it up, i dont need hit rating, health, armor, resil, or .5% chance to crit since it'll be 33% in raids.
Post by
axhed
is this a rhetorical question?
Post by
Xanxuo
yes, so i asked it and replied to responses.
Post by
54777
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
axhed
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question&x=0&y=0
Post by
Xanxuo
Hauberk of the War Bringer
Binds when picked upChest Mail
812 Armor
+24 Agility
+25 Stamina
+17 Intellect
+8 str gem
+8 agi gem
+8 agi gem
Socket Bonus: +8 Attack Power
Equip: Improves haste rating by 20 (1.27% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 76.
I think we are all missing the fact that the 17 int will help warrior max out Stave skill
thanks for prooving you're an excellent troll. find a new thread.
Post by
Xanxuo
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=rhetorical+question&x=0&y=0
i know what it is. i said that because when you ask a rhetorical question, you dont expect a response, but i'm pretty sure i asked "what do you think?" and i responded to things. continue to post on how your items dont compare against this one while giving links to a dictionary site. thanks for letting me know that wowhead isnt a reliable source to compare items. i guess i'll go to a pre school and tell them to use their superior choosing methods compared to mathematical thought processing used to compare different things.
Post by
axhed
i'm almost taking you seriously...
except you put agi gems in it.
Post by
axhed
has it sunk in yet, that nobody has agreed with you on the item page or here in the warrior forum?
if not,
NO IT'S NOT AN UPGRADE FROM ADAL'S FOR DPS WARRIORS.
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